Registered: Aug 2014
Location: The balance of the Force
Nihilus was literally feeding off of the psyches of the entire population of the Galactic Republic. And Tenebrae as of the Nathema Ritual makes Nihilus his *****.
Try harder.
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That was not meant to be taken literally. Why the heck would Plagueis contact everyone in the galaxy?
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And yet Vitiate needed the Zildrog to do so. I cannot see how that makes Nihilus his inferior given Nihilus has had a greater planet consumption than Vitiate. And Nihilus was only drawn by planets rich in The Force.
Not to mention that each time Vitiate needs to feed he has to gather huge amounts of Dark Side energy from conflicts(a la thought bomb) to do so. Meanwhile Nihilus does it on his own.
It is ironic how you discard/debunk absolute accolades regarding Darth Sidious, yet when it comes about Vitiate you do not try to see the context anymore and dismiss certain statements about Vitiate.
What is with this love for Vitiate? He is a pathetic character. He is nothing more but a rip-off of Sidious and Nihilus.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Registered: Aug 2014
Location: The balance of the Force
1.Zildrog is irrelevant when Tenebrae subsequently absorbed such power that his very state of being became a void in the Force that was far worse than any mere wound.
2.The number of planets absorbed is utterly irrelevant when the power that Tenebrae absorbed had warped reality and tore the Force from an entire planet.
3.Nihilus using his hunger to sap life from a world and Tenebrae ripping the Force itself are two entirely different things. One is vastly more complex and destructive.
4.Nihilus' power literally kills him if he doesn't feed. Tenebrae's is self-sustaining.
5.Nihilus couldn't handle his power and had to transfer his essence to his mask. Tenebrae had made his body immortal with his power and was fully capable of sustaining his essence for 1,300 years.
6.Nihilus was dominated by his power and became a being of instinct. Tenebrae's will was godly and he fully mastered his control of the Force.
Tenebrae is just bigger and better, he's literally what Kreia was warning them about.
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I agree with : unbalancing the force, Lusankya, maybe Byss (to a certain extent).
I disagree with : Force Storm being above Ziost feat, Spirits feats of Valkorion being below Sheev ones.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
1. It only serves to prove that Vitiate never had the innate power to consume the worlds like Nihilus. Nihilus must have been insanely strong even for a pre-prime self. He used Telekinesis on the Ravager without stolen Force reserves. This is pretty extraordinary in my book.
And in Knights of The Old Republic 2, a Wound in The Force is also referred as a hole, which is obviously a void. But I love how you ignore the fact that Drew ignored the most important aspects of Knights of the Old Republic 2. You need to understand the book from Drew's view. He obviously thinks that a Wound is that - a wound. He took that Star Wars term literally and thought it meant only Force sensitive individuals who had a low connection with The Force. If you take a look from that perspective, then he is obviously right.
Also it is self-evident that Nihilus is a Void in The Force - given that his aura alone passively drains other practitioners' Force reserves.
2. The same happened in Nihilus case too. There is a scene where Meetra and Visas talk about Malachor V and Katarr. And Meetra asks Visas if Malachor V is similar to Katarr. And she says they are not. And we all know that Malachor V is a large Wound in The Force. Therefore Nihilus created a Void in The Force too.
3. No. They are both the same. In both cases, there were constructs affected too. They both create Voids in The Force. Difference being that Nihilus does not need to create thought bomb-like blasts by feeding on intergalactic conflicts.
4. How eager are you to misinterpret his condition. It is not the power that kills him; it is the hole he carries with him - which he gained due to Bao-Dur's Mass Shadow generator.
5. Are you still going to misinterpret the lore regarding his origins only to wank up Vitiate?
It is not the power that forced him to do that. It was his hunger that kept increasing because he was continuing more and more to delve in the Dark Side of The Force and became an aberration.
"Nothing matters except his hunger. Before it devours him totally, Nihilus uses its power to displace his persona into his robes and armor. As his useless body disintegrates, he becomes living primitive intention; at last, the whole of the galaxy becomes food—for Nihilus has become the hunger."
―Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide
6. Your comparison is similar to a character that needs energy to live and another that consumes energy and does not need to worry about the consumption because he is not sick.
Of course that Nihilus was a "slave" to his power - all because he carried a hole with him that could never be fixed.
Nihilus was literally a Void in The Force, meanwhile Vitiate is said to be a Void because he "kills" The Force around him and has the tainted aura which affects other individuals(another example being Palpatine).
If I recall correcty, there is no Out-Universe statement which calls Vitiate a Void in The Force because of his own status but rather because of his ability to kill The Force like Nihilus.
Vitiate had no courage to come and crush the Sith Triumvirate(you know the weakling Sith, if you compare them to Vitiate)
I am 100% confident that Vitiate knew how dangerous Nihilus was. That is why he did not want to reveal himself and crush everyone.
As I said before: you are loving Vitiate for wrong reasons. I do not know what is so fascinating about this character. He is just Palpatine(with accolades and Sith gimmicks) and Nihilus(with Force Killer ability)
Pretty pathetic.
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Registered: Aug 2014
Location: The balance of the Force
The balance of the Force was eradicated by the Sith and the citizens of the Republic created such a high level of negative psychic energy that the Triumvirate could literally feed off of the latent misery of the entire Republic.
To give you an idea for cross reference:
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__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
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