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He wanted a muslim ban, not a "only colored muslims" ban. So...failing to see the racism.

He wanted an Arab Muslims ban because he conveniently forgot about the hundreds of millions of non-Arab Muslims.

But if you'd like to prove yourself right, please post a legit quote from Trump where he clarifies which Muslims in his "All Muslims" statement.

Edit - Second time I've asked. I'll help you: no such quote exists. You cannot prove this. Trump is "racist" against Arabs. And he doesn't cover up this fact.

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"All Muslims" isn't the same as 7 countries, though. I've already made this defense for you. And I did it very well.

Trump lost all credibility when he said "all Muslims" though. Then my defense went out the window and I had to concede that it was just Trump being a racist shithead again.

Didja forget this argument? Robtard and co. argued with me for pages, remember?

If he wanted all muslims he'd have banned travel from every single country with muslims.

Did he?

"All muslims" would include white muslims. So hes' racist against whites as well, correctamundo?

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Surtur is getting called out. Put up or shut up, surt.

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Trump does this all the time but you excuse him. Telling.

He doesn't and if you said racist things all the time that would make you racist. Not if you said it 100 years ago when you had a very bad day.

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If he wanted all muslims he'd have banned travel from every single country with muslims.

Did he?

If he wanted to ban all Muslims, he would have said he wanted to ban all Muslims. Did he?

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Why should the fact he's president mean grown adults should not practice what they preach?

It doesn't, why does the fact that people say racist things allow the person in the highest office in the land to do the same?

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He doesn't and if you said racist things all the time that would make you racist. Not if you said it 100 years ago when you had a very bad day.

He gets angry and says crazy shit all the time. Lies, makes ridiculous antagonistic statements accusing people of crimes, etc. without a shred of proof. The guy is a train wreck of emotions you excuse making sycophant.

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He wanted an Arab Muslims ban because he conveniently forgot about the hundreds of millions of non-Arab Muslims.

But if you'd like to prove yourself right, please post a legit quote from Trump where he clarifies which Muslims in his "All Muslims" statement.

Edit - Second time I've asked. I'll help you: no such quote exists. You cannot prove this. Trump is "racist" against Arabs. And he doesn't cover up this fact.

Quote me him saying he wants only arab muslims banned.

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It doesn't, why does the fact that people say racist things allow the person in the highest office in the land to do the same?

Doesn't allow it. And likewise just because he's president does not(and should not) prevent us from pointing out the hypocrisy in some of those whining over him. "He's president" doesn't make someones hypocrisy more acceptable.

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If he wanted to ban all Muslims, he would have said he wanted to ban all Muslims. Did he?

We're going around in circles. Post proof of him singling out only arabs. I have never heard him quoted as specifying only certain kinds of muslims, never. If you're going to claim he did the burden of proof is on you.

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Nov 15th, 2018 05:27 PM

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Doesn't allow it. And likewise just because he's president does not(and should not) prevent us from pointing out the hypocrisy in some of those whining over him. "He's president" doesn't make someones hypocrisy more acceptable.

You're right, we shouldn't tolerate hypocrisy but you're acting like the hypocrisy is the most important/worse thing.

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Just because Obama had this list previously doesn't recuse Trump from being racist, just that this particular piece was set up by the previous administration.

It means for *this specific thing* it's not racism.

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You're right, we shouldn't tolerate hypocrisy but you're acting like the hypocrisy is the most important/worse thing.

It's not the worst, but we end up getting into discussions about it when people try to pull the "well he's president" argument.

Instead it should be "yes, these people are hypocrites". Then it would be the end of it.

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It's not the worst, but we end up getting into discussions about it when people try to pull the "well he's president" argument.

Instead it should be "yes, these people are hypocrites". Then it would be the end of it.

So you believe the president should not be held to a higher standard?

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I'm still waiting for proof he's racist. Just see a lot of talking here.

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Nov 15th, 2018 05:33 PM

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And I think some with Trump Derangement Syndrome have this very very faulty logic running through their brains...and that logic is that if they acknowledge a criticism against someone on the left as legitimate it somehow diminishes anything they are saying about Trump.

Kinda reminds me of how some of them can't say anything positive about Trump without throwing in an insult as well.

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Nov 15th, 2018 05:35 PM