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It wouldn't have mattered though if every single Conservative in the union had united and voted for the Conservatives (English Conservatives) Brexit Proposals - The Conservatives still had a minority of seats in the Union Parliament and The DUP couldn't - no matter how hard they look - actually give Northern Ireland's votes... which they don't govern... to the Conservatives in England... and break the terms of their very own peace treaty with The Ulster Unionists, Sinn Féin, The Alliance Party, The Progressive Unionists, The Northern Ireland Women's Coalition, The Social Democratic Labour Party and Labour (Labour and Labour Co-Op)... No matter how hard they talk or look on camera... they just can not break the peace agreement.

[I wrote this before The DUP FINALLY stopped frontin]

Before this dropped I was like: Seriously, Constitutionally they know they can't do this. They know they just can't. And they know every one [well not every one... but every one in politics] knows they know they can't do this.

The DailyMails Headline On This Is Accurate:
The Majority Of Their Articles / Reporting On Brexit However Are FacePalm Material.
This May Be Their Most Accurate News Story Of The Year... It's Just The Facts... And Only The Facts.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-agreement.html

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/p...ement-1-9110161

Game Over. The DUP. The Conservatives. They deserve and have earned everything they're going to get.






https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ted-westminster

When David Cameron told people in England eligible to vote for his party (That's Where The Battleground Was) This is your decision, what you vote in this referendum we will do. It will be the law.

He lied.

Referendums in The Union are opinion polls.

The People, in the realm of England, who voted leave, I do not think they all are fully aware of the fundamental social constructs of The Realm Of The United Kingdom... It's Constitutional Framework...

David Cameron knew (too long to go into detail here) he couldn't constitutionally deliver Brexit. And he quit IMMEDIATELY.

The rest of The Conservatives (Tories) couldn't resist the chance to take the front bench and the access to the 22 government departments financial ledgers which come with a brief on the front bench.

Guys like Mogg and Farage and their Big City Backers in The City Of London (The City Of London - In The City Of London) which exists as a Corporation and is home to most of the listed and unlisted 1% Corporate Shareholders in the UK were pursuing the Long Game of Brexit Disaster Capitalism.

Jacob Rees Mogg's Father wrote The Book On It:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blood-Stre...ooks&sr=1-2

If This Isn't A Conflict Of Interest I Don't Know What Is:
https://twitter.com/c4dispatches/st...8417280?lang=en

https://www.channel4.com/press/news...endum-according

Nigel Farage is earning too from his media company [speeches] + donations for his Brexit Party + The MEP Monthly Salary + Accomodation + Expenses... He's claiming from The European Union... while he's earning money from speeches to people who can afford to pay $38 599 to buy him a beer.

https://www.google.com/search?q=far...440&bih=758

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...m-media-company

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...d-200000-donor/

Anyway. The Conservatives and Today's "Deal"

Scotland, Northern Ireland [The Dup... Finally Standing UP For Ireland] and Wales who gave 32 out of their 40 seats of power in The Union to Her Majesty's Opposittion to Oppose The English Conservatives in Parliament (That Is Their Job).

Are Going To Defeat Them Again.


More On Constitutional Law
https://www.supremecourt.uk/watch/u.../180919-pm.html

this is lit

https://www.youtube.com/results?sea...Martin+Docherty

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I’m curious about your experience.

Do you feel that the parties are using your group more than helping?

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That explained a good bit Shiv, I appreciated your post on this, thank you. thumb up

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Originally posted by shiv
It wouldn't have mattered though if every single Conservative in the union had united and voted for the Conservatives (English Conservatives) Brexit Proposals - The Conservatives still had a minority of seats in the Union Parliament and The DUP couldn't - no matter how hard they look - actually give Northern Ireland's votes... which they don't govern... to the Conservatives in England... and break the terms of their very own peace treaty with The Ulster Unionists, Sinn Féin, The Alliance Party, The Progressive Unionists, The Northern Ireland Women's Coalition, The Social Democratic Labour Party and Labour (Labour and Labour Co-Op)... No matter how hard they talk or look on camera... they just can not break the peace agreement.

[I wrote this before The DUP FINALLY stopped frontin]

Before this dropped I was like: Seriously, Constitutionally they know they can't do this. They know they just can't. And they know every one [well not every one... but every one in politics] knows they know they can't do this.

The DailyMails Headline On This Is Accurate:
The Majority Of Their Articles / Reporting On Brexit However Are FacePalm Material.
This May Be Their Most Accurate News Story Of The Year... It's Just The Facts... And Only The Facts.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-agreement.html

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/p...ement-1-9110161

Game Over. The DUP. The Conservatives. They deserve and have earned everything they're going to get.






https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ted-westminster

When David Cameron told people in England eligible to vote for his party (That's Where The Battleground Was) This is your decision, what you vote in this referendum we will do. It will be the law.

He lied.

Referendums in The Union are opinion polls.

The People, in the realm of England, who voted leave, I do not think they all are fully aware of the fundamental social constructs of The Realm Of The United Kingdom... It's Constitutional Framework...

David Cameron knew (too long to go into detail here) he couldn't constitutionally deliver Brexit. And he quit IMMEDIATELY.

The rest of The Conservatives (Tories) couldn't resist the chance to take the front bench and the access to the 22 government departments financial ledgers which come with a brief on the front bench.

Guys like Mogg and Farage and their Big City Backers in The City Of London (The City Of London - In The City Of London) which exists as a Corporation and is home to most of the listed and unlisted 1% Corporate Shareholders in the UK were pursuing the Long Game of Brexit Disaster Capitalism.

Jacob Rees Mogg's Father wrote The Book On It:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blood-Stre...ooks&sr=1-2

If This Isn't A Conflict Of Interest I Don't Know What Is:
https://twitter.com/c4dispatches/st...8417280?lang=en

https://www.channel4.com/press/news...endum-according

Nigel Farage is earning too from his media company [speeches] + donations for his Brexit Party + The MEP Monthly Salary + Accomodation + Expenses... He's claiming from The European Union... while he's earning money from speeches to people who can afford to pay $38 599 to buy him a beer.

https://www.google.com/search?q=far...440&bih=758

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...m-media-company

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...d-200000-donor/

Anyway. The Conservatives and Today's "Deal"

Scotland, Northern Ireland [The Dup... Finally Standing UP For Ireland] and Wales who gave 32 out of their 40 seats of power in The Union to Her Majesty's Opposittion to Oppose The English Conservatives in Parliament (That Is Their Job).

Are Going To Defeat Them Again.


More On Constitutional Law
https://www.supremecourt.uk/watch/u.../180919-pm.html

this is lit

https://www.youtube.com/results?sea...Martin+Docherty
very good post Shiv mate. thumb up


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Originally posted by SquallX
I’m curious about your experience.

Do you feel that the parties are using your group more than helping?



There must be some quid pro quo going on there, I'd imagine.


Whether it's of benefit to all, or only to a select few with the right connections and social status, is the question.


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Thanks Guys. My Grammar Is A Disaster Tho.

I'll post revisions later.

Live Stream + Archives:

https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Ind...54-7e5e8fd8f9cd

19/10/2019 Parliament 13:59 Alison McGovern MP - The Wirral - Labour [Representative Of The People Of The Wirral In Liverpool In The North West Of England]

https://www.google.com/maps/search/...5.0281433,7.25z

[Verbatim]

'The Conservatives Have Become The Party Of England.'

'The Conservative Party Is Becoming The Party Of Only The South Of England.'

'They Are Putting The Union At Risk.'

'The Conservative Party Is Making Itself UnTrustworthy.'

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It didn't take long to do the gender pronouns training.

She uses her time and resources Efficiently.

She Deserves Respect for holding down a job as a Detective and a Police Chief in 2 PDs

[Through 9 years of The Torys Shutting Down Police Stations, Cutting Police Budgets, Pay Freezes and Forced Lay Offs of Experienced Police Officers, Higher Workloads]

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The awards she's picked up along the way


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Her advice is solid.


If she used her time and resources efficiently we wouldn't have the video in which we're discussing.

Nope don't care if it was only 30 seconds. Could have been an anti-stabbing video or something.

The length isn't the point. The point is why is the police chief doing this at all? What does pronoun usage have to do with the law?

Her time would have been better served with a 30 second clip instructing people to look both ways before crossing the street. At least it has something to do with safety and following the advice could save your life. "Use a persons preferred pronouns" okay...why is this message being relayed by law enforcement?

And in a country arresting people for online hate speech you don't see why some might have found it chilling when a police chief takes time out of her schedule to tell people to use proper pronouns?


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It didn't take long to do the gender pronouns training.

She uses her time and resources Efficiently.

She Deserves Respect for holding down a job as a Detective and a Police Chief in 2 PDs

[Through 9 years of The Torys Shutting Down Police Stations, Cutting Police Budgets, Pay Freezes and Forced Lay Offs of Experienced Police Officers, Higher Workloads]

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The awards she's picked up along the way


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Her advice is solid.


Yes, she quite effectively made a fool of herself.


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I wonder if taking time out to do a pronoun video will help with her budget cut issues. I can imagine that would make taxpayers wanna give her more money.


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When People 'Can't Understand' why MPs or why Parliament just doesn't do what 'The People' voted for...

It is sometimes an indication they do not accurately understand what Westminster is.

The Westminster Parliament is The Union Parliament.

England sends its delegates to The Union Parliament
Wales sends it's delegates to The Union Parliament
Northern Ireland sends it's delegates to The Union Parliament
Scotland Sends it's delegates to The Union Parliament

The Westminster Parliament or Westminster is The Legislature. It is the Congress and The Senate of The 4 Realms of The United Kingdom.

That Gold Sceptre which is on the centre table is The Queen's Sceptre. That is The Legislative Power Of The Queen.

The Union Parlament has 3 main sections:

Her Majesty's Government [The Executive branch of the Party or the Parties which have the most union reps]

The Government is also called The Front Bench and The Cabinet

So The Government = The Cabinet = The Front Bench = MPs tasked with a Government Brief (Ministry) Example: Secretary Of State

When people say Government in the UK

They may mean The 22 or so MPs in Parliament who The Prime Minister invites to sit with him on The Front Bench (The PM can fire them at will, appoint them at will... sounds like a dictatorship right...well... when in Parliament... with the queen's power staff present... every delegate speaks with an equal share of The Queen's Executive Power. (The Speaker Is The Execption To The Rule)

MPs are not referred to by their name because their name is unimportant in the House. They are referred to as The Member of The Constituents (The Constituency) They Represent In The United Kingdom.

Martin Docherty was sent to The Union Parliament in 2017 by the people in the constituency in Scotland which is the seat of 1/650th of the Queen's power to Legislate for The United Kingdom to Remain In The EU.

What will happen if there is a General Election?

The People from West Dunbartonshire the seat of 1/650th of the Queen's Legislative Power will return Martin Docherty to the Union Parliament to Legislate for Remain.

The People of Glasgow Central, Dundee East, Ross, Skye and Lochaber, Brighton Pavilion, Bath, Leeds Central, Bolsover, You Name It... They are all going to be return Alison Thewliss, Stewart Hosie, Ian Blackford, Caroline Lucas, Wera Hobhouse, Hilary Benn, Dennis Skinner et al Right Back to The Legislature to Legislate for Remain.

The United Kingdom is 4 Countries
[multiple currencies, multiple languages, multiple Parliaments]

For The Union to Work The People England can't keep knowingly or unknowingly acting like The United Kingdom is The United Kingdom of England.

Within Their Own Realms:

The Conservatives (The Tories) currently hold most English Seats in The Union Parliament with Labour running Them a Close Second.
The Scottish National Party hold most of The Scottish Seats in The Union Parliament and In The Scottish Parliament.
The DUP have most of The Northern Ireland Seats In The Union Parliament... But They Have No Seats In Their Own Northern Ireland Assembly.
Labour hold most of The Welsh Seats in The Union Parliament and most Of The Welsh Seats in The Welsh National Assembly

Plaid Cwyru [unlike The DUP in Northern Ireland] holds seats in Both The Welsh National Assembly and The Union Parliament

The Welsh People of Carmarthen East & Dinefwr, Ceredigion, Dwyfor Meirionnydd and Arfon voted Remain in 2016 and elected Remain Delegates to The Welsh National Assembly in 2016 and elected Remain MPs to Legislate for Remain in The Union Parliament in 2017. They will return their Right Honourable + Honourable Plaid Cwyru Members Of Parliament to Their Seats In Parliament in The General Election to continue to Legislate for Remain.

Labour who together with Plaid Cwyru hold most of The Welsh Seats in The Welsh National Assembly and In The Union Parliament will continue to Partner Up in The Union Parliament to Legislate against The Tories lowballing Wales so they can win votes in England.

In 2017 in the Union Parliament (Westminster) The Conservatives have only a minority of seats of power in the realm... but partnered up with The DUP to create a Dupe + Con partnership with just about enough seats to say, we've got a majority... and claim the front bench.

That is a problem in itself... because The DUP legally do not govern Northern Ireland.

Before the 2017 General Election the power sharing agreement in Northern Ireland Collapsed and Stormfront Stormont, The Northern Ireland Assembly stopped sitting... If congress and the senate stopped sitting in January 2016 and the 2016 US Election went ahead and The Republicans Won... but Congress and The Senate remained closed for 2017, 2018 and 2019 right up to this minute ... it just would not be right.

Even before Brexit... The situation in Northern Ireland... I can't even... I mean... where do you even begin?

Brexit is really about The Conservative Party In England and Peole Who Live In 100+ Room Houses on Large Country Estates Like Jacob Rees Mogg, Boris Johnson's Personal Development (or lack of), Nigel Farage + Disaster Capitalism.

Jacob Rees Mogg's Father wrote the book on it.

He has moved from a behind the scenes role as Leader Of The English Conservatives (Or Just Conservative) Eurosceptic European Research Group ERG to a front office position as LOHC The Leader of The House Of Commons (The Union Parliament) where has power over what business the house can attend to.

His sister Anunziata Rees Mogg an inaugural member of The Brexit Party and as privileged elite as it can get was endorsed by Nigel Farage as someone who is for ordinary people + was absolutely going to take on the establishment.. when she is the establishment... Brexit Voters will believe anything Nigel Farage tells them to believe.

Jacob Rees Mogg, Farage, etc they didn't expect People to actually vote Leave in 2016 but they did want to advance themselves politically.

Farage wanted to get elected into the Legislature and build his brand.

Rees Mogg - you don't get to a power position like Leader of The House Of Commons by accident - He wanted and He wants to be Prime Minister.

Long Before it was world news Mogg's ERG threatened Cameron's position as Leader of The English Conservatives (Tories) and threatened to split the Tories if they didn't get a referendum.

Did they really want one?

Because the Conservative ERG has voted down every single deal The Conservative Front Bench has negotiated for them


Thank you for that.

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Shiv is posting awesome stuff at the moment.


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You mean facts, yes, I suppose facts do belong to the left usually.


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EU commissioner said "BREXIT is waste of time and energy"

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EU commissioner said "BREXIT is waste of time and energy"
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You mean facts, yes, I suppose facts do belong to the left usually.


Yes. The Left do think that Lies are Facts.

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Yes. The Left do think that Lies are Facts.

This is Very Much True.
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This is Very Much True.



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EU commissioner said "BREXIT is waste of time and energy"

And he’s completely correct.


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