I mean, Despero smashed him to pieces as a concrete wall, and he seemed fine.
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I did mention that I wasn't saying that it would get Zatanna the win. But I do believe Zatanna has a better chance to BFR Hulk before he has a chance to reach her.
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Unless he becomes a colourless gas beyond Sight range of Hulk how is that helping.
Hulk sees an opponent dissappear in front of his eyes and the obvious answer is to thunder clap. Its the obvious thing ro do to an known invisible opponent.
Nothing in the OP says anything about pre-knowledge, as such he's not going to become a gaseous form 10 km away that may take days to get to hulk. Without it being done outside Hulks perception it doesnt fly. Also
Never said any such thing. I said he was inebof the only 2 that would trouble Hulk. If he was a version that could manip organic things (like when Ronnie got the power back solo and Steinnwas fire elemental) he could win. I just dont see him winning whennhe can only affect the area.
Aside from the basic knowledge standard with these fights. Whatever the public knows, basically.
Hulk wouldn't know Scott Free has the ALE, but he'd sure know he's an escape artist, and former JLA member.
Lack of pre-knowledge would hurt Hulk as much, anyways, considering Rex's powers. He's like Plastic Man with mineral/chemical morphing, instead of shape shifting. He could literally travel along the dirt as deposits, if he wanted to.
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Has Firestorm gained a power I'm unaware of? Didnt know he was capable of this.
Only one I could see BFRing is Zee and its not like she does it all that often. Its not a go to out of the gate option. CIS is on.
How so? Hulk has decases of fighting as a reactionary brute. No planning or thinking in a fight beyond the basic "Hulk smash". The options available for Rex to win require him to get close enough to be an invisivle gas around Hulk's head.a 10km starting distance doesnt make this easy at all.
Id also like to see scans of Rex travelling as dirt on the side of the road and see just how fast he is. Usually he travels as a visible gas and ita not a fast mode of transport what your auggesting would be much slower. Why would Hulk wait around? Why would Tex choose to do that whennhe never has before WITHOUT PRE KNOWLEDGE. Its a ludicrous ascertain at best.
Over 10km, Hulk is going to see someone disappear, and then what, continuously thunderclap? When Rex could be floating high up in the sky, or whatever? THAT'S doubtful. Note, I'm not saying Hulk can't possibly see over that distance, I'm saying he's not starting a match scanning the horizon in all directions, and upwards etc.
No pre knowledge specified in OP, so we default to forum rules. So Rex knows what the population of Marvel Earth knows about Hulk...The guy who nearly destroyed Manhattan with a single footstep, nearly beat Black Bolt to death on the moon, enslaved Tony Stark etc etc.
Yeah, Rex will know all of this and think gee, better turn into iron and go h2h with him.
1st I already said several posts ago that if Rex turned to gas at that 10km distance Hulk wouldnt see him. and IF he did so with no pre knowledge hiw would Rex even know which direction to go in to attack Hulk. That is my whole point. To even engage Hulk he would have to turn into a gas in sensory range.
Neither Hulk nor Rex possess enhanced senses. IF Rex turned into a colourless gas 10km from Hulk without pre knowledge he wont know where he is to be a threat. He travels in that form literally on the wind so would rely on a breaze pushing him in hulks direction. Given that a decent average wind speed would be about 30km/h IF hulk stays still and doesnt move out of Rex's path AND IF the wind is conveliently traveling in a straight direction toward Hulk (so basically Rex needs Longshot or Domino's luck for it to happen) he might come across Hulk in 20 minutes or so.
Wind normally travels in a preasure system to have that sort of speed (which means circular) so it would in fact be much longer than 20 minutes if at all.
The simple fact is there is no way that Rex turning to a colourless kms away from Hulk will ever eventuate in a battle. The two will simply never meet and since Rex is doing this to himself the result is a self BFR since hes effectively removing himswlf from thw part of the battledield Battle takes place.
On the other hand if he does it in viaible range of Hulk and Hulk does thunderclap dispersing said gas, this would count as a BFR wich is in fact a win condition under the thread stips.why would he have to
when the very first one met the conditions needed for a win??
Since when did Rex need the wind to push him? He can travel along just fine as a gas.
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I know the scan shows how he has to use his sensory abilities etc etc, and I'm not claiming he can scan 10kms (even though the Hulk is pretty standout with his gamma rads). But he's hardly a helpless drifting dandelion seed, lol.
Not self BFR, as he's still on the battlefield, which is 10km in size.if he goes 12km away, then sure, it's self BFR.
Edit: I think what you actually mean is, it's a stalemate.
So Hulk stalemates at 2.
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Wait you literally provided a scan showing it would take him "half a day" to search a ventilation system in gas form (which btw is a system where air moves either in or out). A system that at best would be 1 km long (thats assuming it's one humongous freeking skyrise).
I'd dig up a few dozen scans that show rex moves on the wind when in gas form but since your own evidence completely proved my point about how bad an idea it is turning to invisivle gas 10 kms away why bother.
I mean seriously dude, are you reading what your posting?
So its a stalemate if one clmbatant doesnt engage now? If Rex turns to gas 10km away he will never reach hulk to fight him. He may as well have run from battle. It it would take him half a day to search a buildings vent system it would take him days to get in range of Hulk.
If he turnsnto gas anywhere within a km of Hulk a single thunderclap disperses him enough to count as a KO. The proof of which os literally how he suffered one of his "deaths" (all four of which he eventually reformed but they would still count as a forum win)
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of course it isn't.... but he wouldn't need to start as gas to cover ground. he can turn just part of his body to gas and propel himself at rocket speeds if he chose. the wind plays no part in his ability to move as a gas though....
Beatboks: DS` scan shows Rex using his senses to locate the bomb, then having to wait until a Longshot level lucky air current pushes him towards it.
'Oh no! My senses tell me that the bomb is this way, but because there's no air current flowing there, I'll have to wait until something blows me there!!!'
I don't think any character that can turn into gas has to rely on the wind for him/her to move, unless it's the moment they got their powers and are confused af.
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lol seriously, makes no sense. not sure his max speed, but like i said, if he needs to cover ground quickly he can do so. shift--a lesser version of rex that was later assimilated by rex himself, was also able to survive ground zero of a nuclear explosion. he was scattered for a few minutes but put himself back together just fine. rex is no push over.