Giving up controlling interest in their biggest movie franchise for absolutely no reason is taking it up the Butt. No studio, no business would accept that without some kind of massive pay off.
This isnt even close to the original deal which both sides were happy to make. Its simple greed on Disneys side, not giving a shit about the fans.
Yeah, his true characterisation should be as Iron Man Junior right?
But again this isnt Marvel. Its all Disney. Just like with the firing of James Gunn situation.
Link to where I said Venom was a failure.
What I said was that a few profitable movies Sony had had in a couple years are not enough to get them out the hole they are in.
A Marvel Universe w/out Spider-Man is like a DCU w/out Superman, Batman, or Wonder Woman. Doesn't really matter to me as although I do like SM I have no more interest in the movie MU after Endgame.
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Well, even if they get small profits, it just makes the selling option more attractive.
Besides, profit ain't all of it, but also the character's prestige and therefore the franchise's prestige.
The only reason Sony rebuted Spiderman was because they knew the MCU had the fan's backup for their product to be accepted, otherwise, they wouldn't likely reboot the Spider Man franchise in a short term considering how terrible the Andrew Gardfield's adaptation was.
They can make money on the short term, but as fans get disappointed, they lose in the long term.
The MCU fans boycotting Sony wouldn't be a surprise.
Certainly Marvel is being greedy but Sony shouldn't be cocky either.
Well, Spider Man was dead for Spiderman 3 from Tommy McGuirre for 5 years before the reboot from Sony with Andrew.
They screwed just as badly or worse with Amazing Spiderman 2.
Sure, they can reboot again, but definitely 5 to God knows how many years (because I wouldn't expect them to reboot sooner than the previous time) before the next adaptation is money in the garbage and a wasted franchise.
First Venom was okay and so was Spiderverse, but so was First Spiderman and Amazing Spiderman.... Will Venom 2 and whatever continuation of the Spiderverse remain faithful in quality? Sony isn't the MCU yet, I wouldn't place my money that they can keep up.
To be more accurate, that article was from 2017. The actual financial data being cited is from 2016.
A lot can happen in three years so, frankly, I don't find your source particularly relevant right now tbh, especially considering you seem to be forgetting that Sony was making the lion's share of the money from the MCU Spidey films.
So what your are trying to say is that the Spiderman films (after ASM2 ) alone were enough to bring the entirety of the Sony film division out of the dumpster.
Cute theory tbh.
Get Disney too angry, and they'll eat up Sony too.
Sony is playing a dangerous game, thinking they can pull Spidey out of the
MCU and that the Marvel fans wouldn't burn their studio to the ground in retaliation.
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It put me to sleep. It's worse then bad, it's actually unwatchable.
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The best thing about TASM 2 is that it put Peter on the road to the MCU with Captain America: Civil War, because of it's failure. It proven to be a win in the end.
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I believe Spiderman and Sony have benefitted immensely from Marvel Studios involvement in the Tom Holland iteration of Spiderman, moreso than the other way around, so it wasn't unreasonable for Disney to negotiate for greater than the 5% movie profits they were receiving. Had Sony developed another Spiderman movie on their own, given how the previous two were received, it would have made less than Justice League and critically received worse than ASM2. I think a 50-50 split was reaching on Disney's part, however as always in negotiations, the first offer must always be more than what you're expecting to get; I think realistically Disney would have been happy with a 25-30% share.
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