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ares834
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Oh man, the Knights of Ren are so cool and important! I love how they hyped them up for the past years. I can't wait to learn more!

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Lol

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Also, the entry for the Knights of Ren fleshes out every member(and their weaponry) quite a bit.

Also mentions that they would have been prime candidates for Inquisitors back in the Imperial days.
So basically the Knights of Ren were Jedi level because all of the Inquisitors were former Jedi Knights and even some were Jedi Masters.

They didn't seem very formidable to me though. I bet the Inquisitors would take them in a fight.


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I think most of Inquisitors were padawans, with the exception of the Grand Inquisitor who was a Temple Guard (so a Jedi Knight i guess?) and the other guy that windu defeated. Some guy said so on twitter


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The Tenth Bother was a former Jedi Master if I recall without looking so I'm not sure how he could be out ranked by Padawans.

Even if they were Padawans when they joined their talents most likely increased with being trained by Vader for years.


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They'd beat the Knights just because they have lightsabers.

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So basically the Knights of Ren were Jedi level because all of the Inquisitors were former Jedi Knights and even some were Jedi Masters.

They didn't seem very formidable to me though. I bet the Inquisitors would take them in a fight.
The implication seems to be that the KoR's force abilities(unpolished as they were) would have still made them sufficient stock for the Inquisitorius. So yeah, their powers are probably around that level.

The KoR's individual abilities are pretty odd, though. Vicrul, for example, grows more powerful every time he kills an opponent with his scythe... Highlander style. Weird stuff.

*Seems* like the Inquisitors might have an advantage, as it *seems* like their formalized training was more extensive than the KoR's(it's hard to top having Vader as your 'instructor')... The KoR's weaponry is also NOT lightsaber-proof, which would give the Inquisitors even more of an advantage, considering...you know...that they are all armed with lightsabers.

I'll wait until the Rise of Kylo Ren comic series has concluded to say for sure how they'd stack up next to the Inquisitors(I won't be surprised if the KoR rack up some decent feats in the comics)... But I am impressed that they were stomping a saberless 'forcegod' Kylo, though. /shrug


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I think most of Inquisitors were padawans, with the exception of the Grand Inquisitor who was a Temple Guard (so a Jedi Knight i guess?) and the other guy that windu defeated. Some guy said so on twitter



Even IF they were Padawans when turned, training for 10+ years under Vader and the GI, theyd obviously be Knight level by that time.

Kanan reached Knight level just self training from time to time whilst in hiding and with no instructor.

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Galan007
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A few more things...


*The Luke/Leia flashback training session occurred 30 years before TFA -- so literally right after RotJ.

*Luke started training Ben as a Jedi 19 years before TFA, and Ben's betrayal occurred 6 years before TFA. So Ben was actually Luke's apprentice longer than I realized.

*RoS is only set 1 year after TFA.

*Rey learned the healing techniques she used in the movie from one of the ancient Jedi texts. She even used this knowledge to heal the broken kyber crystal in her lightsaber.

*I thought this line(also from the ancient texts) was interesting, because of the force bridge technique that Rey and Kylo used: "The Force is like a twisted ribbon lining the perimeter of all reality. Transit to any point across the cosmos is made possible by traversing this path through 'The Netherworld of Unbeing'."


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If Rey learned the healing technique from an ancient text how in the hell did Baby Yoda do it?

There is more to Baby Yoda than meets the eye for sure.


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Baby Yoda is just a natural talent


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If Rey learned the healing technique from an ancient text how in the hell did Baby Yoda do it?




He must have a Dyad with Luke

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It's pretty bad, but I feel like this guidebook is almost essential reading for anyone who is even remotely interested in connecting the dots in this film, or just overall character/world building.

Shouldn't be that way, but it definitely is...


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It's pretty bad, but I feel like this guidebook is almost essential reading for anyone who is even remotely interested in connecting the dots in this film, or just overall character/world building.

Shouldn't be that way, but it definitely is...
Disney knows how to rob people for sure.


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They are definitely capitalizing on supplementary material...


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Well I just got my copy from Amazon and skimmed through it.

I liked how they implemented a timeline showing what year stuff happened in. I also like they tell the age of alot of characters for example Lando is 78 years old and Luke was 53 when he died.


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It is very helpful to get some answers on *when* this stuff took place... But they use "BSI" and "ASI" as the primary timeline reference now.

*Before Starkiller Incident, and After Starkiller Incident.

That took a bit of getting used to.


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Another tidbit:

Maz Kanata is 1,008 years old.


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It is very helpful to get some answers on *when* this stuff took place... But they use "BSI" and "ASI" as the primary timeline reference now.

*Before Starkiller Incident, and After Starkiller Incident.

That took a bit of getting used to.
Oh c'mon just leave BBY and ABY


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It is very helpful to get some answers on *when* this stuff took place... But they use "BSI" and "ASI" as the primary timeline reference now.

*Before Starkiller Incident, and After Starkiller Incident.

That took a bit of getting used to.


For Christ’s sake...

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