It also raises the question as to if the Palpatine clone we see in TROS was sentient/independent before Palpatine’s spirit was transferred into its body? Or perhaps it was still in one of those lab tubes like we saw the other failed snoke clones in TROS, waiting to be woken until his spirit was transferred...
How is that a good thing? Ambiguity can certainly have its place and is often preferable to definitive answers. However, how Sidious survived was something that needed to be answered and it had to be done IN THE FILM! It’s absolutely mind bogging that they thought they could just “hand wave” that.
Yet another leaked excerpt from the novel details Palpatine's "son"/Rey's "father" -- it's actually a continuation of the text I posted earlier...
"One genetic strandcast lived. Thrived, even. A not-quite-identical clone. His "son". But he was a useless, powerless failure. Palpatine could not bear to look upon such disappointing ordinariness. The boy's only worth would lay in continuing the bloodline through more natural methods.
And it was through that eventual union, unexpected as it was, that Rey was born. The perfect vessel. Strong enough to contain all the power of the Sith. His granddaughter."
So yeah... It seems like Palpatine actually WANTED his clone vessel to be both sentient AND strong with the Force.
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I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives."
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The novel also confirms that after Palpatine sent Ben hurling off the cliff, he didn't survive by stopping his fall with the Force. He landed on an outcropping, and climbed back up from there.
It also states that Ben briefly spoke with Rey after he died:
"Ben Solo had no regrets as he collapsed to the ground. The Force reached for him in welcome. His final awareness was Rey, clasping his hand with her own.
Rey stood over the place Ben had fallen, staring down at his empty tunic. Tears streaming down her face. He had sacrificed everything for her. She did not mourn Kylo Ren. She would never mourn Kylo Ren. But she dearly would have loved a chance to get to know Ben Solo. It felt like half of her was missing, and she supposed it was.
The girl who had felt alone for all those years on Jakku had been part of a Dyad the whole time. And just as she'd discovered that precious connection, that incredible oneness, it was ripped away.
A voice came to her through the Force, clear and strong. "I will always be with you," Ben said. Rey smiled. Let the truth of it wash over her. "No one's ever really gone," she whispered."
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"I am tired of Earth. These people.
I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives."
Tch and people said that Disney SW was gonna be consistent and do away with all the nonsense that the old EU had..well that horse was shot in the face.
“Your parents were filthy junk traders who sold you for drinking money. Wait, sorry. I meant to say that you don’t just have power. You have his power. You’re his granddaughter. You are a Palpatine. My mother was the daughter of Vader. Your father was the son of the Emperor. Well, I say “son,” but actually he was a clone of Palpatine. So really, Palpatine is kiiinda technically still your grandfather, but can also be sort of like your father or uncle depending on how you look at it. But at the same time you’re not his actual descendant, so it’s kind of like what you thought when you said you were a nobody. It’s just that this nobody happens to be the clone of the Emperor. I never lied to you, Rey.”
I'm once again impressed with their mistreatment of this goldmine of a franchise.
How difficult is it to just organize? Communicate your ideas before putting them in your book, comic, movie, whatever, so people know not to contradict them? Have a planned story that everyone's aware of so that one bad decision doesn't make the entire trilogy fall apart?
At least Ben had trained under Luke for a number of years before the events of the ST... Vader somehow managed to become a Force Spirit on the fly, without ever receiving any training/guidance in that area beforehand.
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"I am tired of Earth. These people.
I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives."
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