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lmao

This isn't a ****ing boxing match. I've no clue why people are unironically trying to break this up into rounds.

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I'm pretty sure when two fighters are taking a break mid-fight, that's a round over when they fell. Kong got up roaming the city figuring out what his next strategy is while Godzilla asked for the license plate of what hit him.
I don't think that is how it works at all.


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Neither do I've any clue why that bugs you. Whether you count it as 2-3 rounds total, Godzilla still won overall because, well, no crap.


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lmao

This isn't a ****ing boxing match. I've no clue why people are unironically trying to break this up into rounds.
I'm assuming so they can say Kong "won" a fight.

Kong hit Godzilla with a haymaker that rocked him. It was supposed to show that Kong could contend under the circumstances with strategy/tactics/tools.

Godzilla was shown to be the more brute powerful of the two though.


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Neither do I've any clue why that bugs you. Whether you count it as 2-3 rounds total, Godzilla still won overall because, well, no crap.
I think it's because of the argument that springing forth from people trying to break into three distinct fights.


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Originally posted by Kazenji
No more stupid then what we got from Toho's Godzilla movies, But i keep forgetting most folks on here don't watch foreign movies.


"It's King Caesar!"

Random monster god fights Mechagodzilla. For some reason. laughing out loud


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Originally posted by Newjak
I'm honestly curious on what advantages you think Kong in a Jungle would have gotten that he wouldn't have gotten in the City?


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There were really two fights.

The one out at sea.

The city one. Kong got a massive hit in with the axe that knocked them both down. Kong got first but Godzilla wasn't really that far behind in getting up. It would be like saying with two people pushed each other down and one person got up a little faster that is them winning the 'round'

I'm not sure why we're talking about the city fight like it was two distinct rounds with a bell or something. It was one fight.


Like I said, its a city environment A.) The setting is compact so Kongs movement was restricted not to mention this was Kongs first time ever seeing a city... B.) offensively speaking Kong had nothing to use to his advantage. Kong would had done serious damage to Zilla if he were winging them tree trunks at Zilla.

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Like I said, its a city environment A.) The setting is compact so Kongs movement was restricted not to mention this was Kongs first time ever seeing a city... B.) offensively speaking Kong had nothing to use to his advantage. Kong would had done serious damage to Zilla if he were winging them tree trunks at Zilla.
How does a Jungle give him more movement than what he had in the city?

Also are you arguing that Kong hitting Godzilla with tree is going to hurt Godzilla more than hitting him with metal cranes and buildings?

The one thing I would agree on was that Kong could be at a slight disadvantage because he had never seen a city like that before. That being said Kong seemed to be using the environment to his advantage pretty easily so I don't think it was that much of a disadvantage at all.


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In fact I would argue that the city was actually more of an advantage to Kong than it was Godzilla.

Kong used the city to hide, get the drop on, and even block Godzilla's attack.

In fact I would say Godzilla got no advantage from fighting in the city compared to Kong. Other than maybe using it to Kong into a few times but Kong was doing the same thing so not really an advantage to Godzilla.


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Agreed. Kong definitely had the environmental advantage in the city.

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Using the environment really annoyed Godzilla to where he'd smile finally nailing him with the fire breath. A lot say that looked stupid but I thought that was funny.


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Originally posted by Kazenji
No more stupid then what we got from Toho's Godzilla movies, But i keep forgetting most folks on here don't watch foreign movies.


Not all of them were stupid. The first Godzilla was serious as ****. final being my favorite was also pretty serious with a little laughter here and there.

Also, this monsters was serious from the beginning, it was meant to do away with all the silliness, yet GvK failed in that regard.

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How does a Jungle give him more movement than what he had in the city?

Also are you arguing that Kong hitting Godzilla with tree is going to hurt Godzilla more than hitting him with metal cranes and buildings?

The one thing I would agree on was that Kong could be at a slight disadvantage because he had never seen a city like that before. That being said Kong seemed to be using the environment to his advantage pretty easily so I don't think it was that much of a disadvantage at all.


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In fact I would argue that the city was actually more of an advantage to Kong than it was Godzilla.

Kong used the city to hide, get the drop on, and even block Godzilla's attack.

In fact I would say Godzilla got no advantage from fighting in the city compared to Kong. Other than maybe using it to Kong into a few times but Kong was doing the same thing so not really an advantage to Godzilla.


how? Kong couldn't move at all,.. THIS was shown while zilla was basting at him. Kong couldn't move fast enough he kept running into buildings.

IN A jungle setting trees are More readily available then cranes...

The city fight is seen as two fights because they made a specific point in the movie to actually say round two goes to Kong. The movie is the one that made that distinction. And I honestly see why. In what's considered the "second round", Godzilla kept trying to use his atomic breath and Kong kept stopping him. He was throwing Godzilla, stuffed the axe down his throat, and dropped kicked him into a building. Kong really did get the better of Godzilla there.

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Godzilla clearly won...and it was obvious it would have been even more one sided had they fought on even grounds. The city was an advantage to Kong: He clearly used it to help him dodge and hide. The axe was a plot device to help kong stand a chance: and he still got stomped once Godzilla finally got his claws on kong.

I mean, kong would have died had it not been for the humans jump starting his heart. Godzilla literally would have beaten him to death where it not for the humans...


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how? Kong couldn't move at all,.. THIS was shown while zilla was basting at him. Kong couldn't move fast enough he kept running into buildings.

IN A jungle setting trees are More readily available then cranes...

The city fight is seen as two fights because they made a specific point in the movie to actually say round two goes to Kong. The movie is the one that made that distinction. And I honestly see why. In what's considered the "second round", Godzilla kept trying to use his atomic breath and Kong kept stopping him. He was throwing Godzilla, stuffed the axe down his throat, and dropped kicked him into a building. Kong really did get the better of Godzilla there.

Yeah, Kong did all that and still didn’t even manage to hurt Godzilla in any significant way laughing out loud

Once he stopped playing around Godzilla completely wrecked Kong.

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Originally posted by emporerpants
Godzilla clearly won...and it was obvious it would have been even more one sided had they fought on even grounds. The city was an advantage to Kong: He clearly used it to help him dodge and hide. The axe was a plot device to help kong stand a chance: and he still got stomped once Godzilla finally got his claws on kong.

I mean, kong would have died had it not been for the humans jump starting his heart. Godzilla literally would have beaten him to death where it not for the humans...


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Yeah, Kong did all that and still didn’t even manage to hurt Godzilla in any significant way laughing out loud

Once he stopped playing around Godzilla completely wrecked Kong.


And I absolutely disagree tbh because I think putting kong OUT of his element was a disadvantage but I'll digress cuz without Kong Zilla would have fallen..

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how? Kong couldn't move at all,.. THIS was shown while zilla was basting at him. Kong couldn't move fast enough he kept running into buildings.

IN A jungle setting trees are More readily available then cranes...

The city fight is seen as two fights because they made a specific point in the movie to actually say round two goes to Kong. The movie is the one that made that distinction. And I honestly see why. In what's considered the "second round", Godzilla kept trying to use his atomic breath and Kong kept stopping him. He was throwing Godzilla, stuffed the axe down his throat, and dropped kicked him into a building. Kong really did get the better of Godzilla there.
You mean the buildings he was climbing, jumping off, and using to block some of Godzilla's attacks?

You believe that environment put Kong at a disadvantage versus trees? How would trees big enough to support him not basically be the same as the buildings? How would protect him any better from Godzilla's breath weapon?

And how did they give Godzilla an advantage?


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Yeah, the whole environment argument is a reach.


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That one guy is really mad Kong got bodied by Godzilla huh?

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Nah, it's Alberto.

Just a troll with a boring and uninspired act of making ridiculous claims, refusing to acknowledge proof etc rinse and repeat. It gets dull quite fast.


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