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Galan007
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The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

So I recently talked this over with Bada and Pr, and we're all in agreement to allow this on sort of a trial basis...

The intent of this thread is to act as a compendium of sorts where any and all discussions pertaining to "Dragon Ball vs. Comics" are allowed.

-Can comic character 'x' replicate this showing from DB character 'x'..? - Perfectly fine.
-Who is the weakest comic character who can tank 'x' blast from DB..? - No problem.
-Comic character 'x' vs. DB character 'x'..? - Go for it.

Any DB/comics debates are fine as long as you heathens keep it civil(seriously, NO trolling/bashing/flaming/etc. will be tolerated), and there is not to be any bleed-over into other threads in the CBF whatsoever. ALL cross-genre talk needs to stay in this one thread.

If the above "rules" aren't followed, this thread will be closed and DB discussions will be blacklisted again. No exceptions.

So with all of that being said... Your move!

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IMO, After Frieza saga, the adult Saiyans are all above top tier. I'd rank Super Perfect Cell as skyfather level.

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Also pinning the thread should be done.

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Oh wow this is awesome!

I think we should start by trying to figure out where the characters from each saga would compare to comic character.

Like would the more powerful DB heroes from the Saiyan saga be in the herald tier? What about the heroes after the Saiyan saga? etc.

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Ok I'll start.

Who is the weakest person who can dodge saiyans saga piccolo's special beam cannon from point blank range?

It went to the moon in roughly a couple of seconds which makes it around lightspeed or at least highly relativistic.

(And yes the dragon ball moon is confirmed to be just as far away as the actual moon)

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great thread idea! surprised you guys are finally allowing this. stick out tongue

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Ok I'll start.

Who is the weakest person who can dodge saiyans saga piccolo's special beam cannon from point blank range?

It went to the moon in roughly a couple of seconds which makes it around lightspeed or at least highly relativistic.

(And yes the dragon ball moon is confirmed to be just as far away as the actual moon)

it would have to be a higher end speedster imho. like you said, piccolo's blast was moving around light speed for sure

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Actually I think I'm remembering wrong. It wasnt the special beam cannon but an ordinary one handed blast.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
I'd rank Super Perfect Cell as skyfather level.

Reasons?

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Originally posted by LordGod
Oh wow this is awesome!

I think we should start by trying to figure out where the characters from each saga would compare to comic character.

Like would the more powerful DB heroes from the Saiyan saga be in the herald tier? What about the heroes after the Saiyan saga? etc.

I think you could make a pretty convincing argument for the notable characters from the Saiyan saga(ie. Goku, Vegeta, Nappa, and Piccolo) to be in the herald tier.

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Actually I think I'm remembering wrong. It wasnt the special beam cannon but an ordinary one handed blast.

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*Pretty sure it was the same in the anime.

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I'm sure Piccolo beam canon is faster than that attack?

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Also, an argument can be made that the more powerful a character gets, the faster their attacks are.

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I'm sure it is too. I was just correcting myself. The question still stands who is the weakest/slowest who can dodge that from point blank?

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Also, an argument can be made that the more powerful a character gets, the faster their attacks are.

Has to work that way.

there's no way i'd believe that a blast from SSJ3 goku "only" moves as fast as a blast from saiyan saga goku. seems like when a character in db gets more powerful, EVERYTHING they do is scaled up.

Sep 8th, 2020 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by abhilegend
IMO, After Frieza saga, the adult Saiyans are all above top tier. I'd rank Super Perfect Cell as skyfather level.

I personally wouldn't put Cell at Skyfather levels but he is 100% high trans. Thanos imo is the epitome of high trans and Cell would completely annihilate him with ease if they fought. Complete ease. The only argument would be attacking Cell mind. Outside of that, its a massacre.

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I'm sure it is too. I was just correcting myself. The question still stands who is the weakest/slowest who can dodge that from point blank?

i honestly think it would take flash tier speed.

in the page galan posted, it looks like the beam piccolo uses hits the moon pretty much instantly.....in the same freaking panel where he fires it.

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I personally wouldn't put Cell at Skyfather levels but he is 100% high trans. Thanos imo is the epitome of high trans and Cell would completely annihilate him with ease if they fought. Complete ease. The only argument would be attacking Cell mind. Outside of that, its a massacre.

cell has the power output of a skyfather but lacks the versatility imo.

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cell has the power output of a skyfather but lacks the versatility imo.

Agreed

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Would this method work (Vegeta's new ability) work on, say, Rebirth Superman, being that his body absorbs sunlight and or being a culmination of other versions of himself?
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Would Thanos tank Vegeta's final flash against Cell?

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Let's try to scale it up from the beginning and move on to later.

We need to start from a baseline.

For example.

Let's star with:

a). Master Roshi blowing up the moon with effort:

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b). Piccolo blowing up the moon with a casual KI blast:

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Weakest character/tier that can do it? Mid-herald?

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Originally posted by Galan007
Reasons?

I think you could make a pretty convincing argument for the notable characters from the Saiyan saga(ie. Goku, Vegeta, Nappa, and Piccolo) to be in the herald tier.

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*Pretty sure it was the same in the anime.

Perfect Cell casually no sold SS1 Vegeta putting all his energy in a kick and casually beat down Trunks who had surpassed Vegeta by considerable amount. I don't think anyone below skyfather can tank such an attack.

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