I think Hoechlin has been doing a great job in the role so far. He manages to get both the more awkward Clark Kent persona and the more heroic Superman persona right IMO. Just shows you how wasted he was on shows like Supergirl.
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Yeah, no worries. My criticism wasn't directed at you. And most of the CW shows have gone to shit. I still enjoy Legends of Tomorrow for its goofiness (and Constantine), but the only ones really worth it still are Stargirl (which was pretty good despite IMO having a somewhat weak finale) and the new Superman show, which has been off to a strong start.
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Ok, if those are the new rules, they're the new rules.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Here's a respect thread for CW Superman as well. Unfortunately, a lot of the feats don't look as visually spectacular due to the other CW shows having less than half the budget that his own show does. Also, it doesn't have all of his feats, but it has most:
And here is him vs Routh Superman. Again, VFX not that good due to lower budget at the time. Though a thing to note is that while Hoechlin Supes was losing, as mentioned in my initial post, Routh Superman was bloodlusted while Hoechlin Superman had just returned from months of living under a red sun and was trying to reason with Routh:
Anyway, this plus what I posted earlier should be enough for people who haven't watched the shows to be able to make an informed decision on who wins.
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^ I didnt mind Routh Superman winning that one. Especially given at the time CW Supergirl > CW Superman. So at least one version of Superman could possibly take the top spot on that show.
I think Routh Superman should be > Kara. Because even though she did beat Hoechlin Superman when they fought, it took everything she had to do so. I mean she literally collapsed from exhaustion right after KO'ing Clark. They basically made it as even as they could and still have her come out on top. Her winning was still weird though, because later in that same episode Clark was showing her new moves that he didn't use while they were fighting IIRC. But then Supergirl writers were never going to have her lose to Clark on her own show. Though I will say Supergirl has actually accumulated a bunch of pretty impressive feats over the course of her show and the crossovers events. If we ignore the PIS low-end showings, she's actually extremely strong, fast, durable and an overall powerhouse.
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Well, if you're okay with some spoilers for the first three episodes, I posted some stuff from the show on an earlier page. The action looks WAY better than it did before, as Superman's solo show has a much higher budget than any of the previous CW superhero projects and it makes a huge difference.
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Wasnt just that fight though. Was in the last crossover when they were both using their heat vision and Clarks gave up first.
Shes got good feats. But Superman should be no. 1. Making her lose to him wouldnt have taken anything away from her, but certainly does take away from Superman.
Yeah ive been reading some stuff, and it sounds like its pretty good.
Ive heard its more like an HBO production than a CW one.
Well, as I mentioned previously, Clark had spent eight months living under the influence of a red star while out of action before that crossover happened. So, one could argue that he wasn't quite back to full power at that point.
But yeah, logically speaking, he should be more powerful than Kara. But as we've established, the writers of Supergirl would never let that happen.
Well, HBO is streaming a bunch of the CW shows now and might even help finance more of their original content in the future. I actually did a bit of research and if the 3x more than Supergirl estimate is correct, then this show has a budget of around $8-9 million per episode, which isn't a lot less than shows like GoT's final season and The Witcher S1 had. Plus they are apparently using the same VFX team who in fact does also work on The Witcher and is working on some of the Disney Plus MCU stuff as well.
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If Clark had been red sunning for nearly a year, while Kara was on Earth that entire time, then he would basically be at 0% and slowly working his way up, while she started off at 100%. It would take at least a while for him to get back to his full might, which I'm sure was well after their fight. Also you have to take into account Clark is usually the one to hold back, especially against people he cares about, like his cousin who he loves dearly and is his only lifeline to his family and entire race.
So yeah, Supergirl wasn't allowed to lose that fight. Clark had too many things against him on top of it being her own show.
Based on in-universe info and dialogue, he has like a 14-year (or something along those lines) head start on Kara in terms of gaining his powers and becoming a superhero and has successfully battled that continuity's versions of Zod and Doomsday (based on his one conversation with Lois).
So, as already mentioned, he really should be able to handle his cousin, even holding back a bit. They actually showcase this element of his character in the new show. [SPOILER - highlight to read]: He initially appears to struggle a bit against Luthor in their first fight. But once he knows the limits of what Luthor's powered suit can withstand, he kicks it up during the second and third encounters and wins both fights handily. And in the third episode as well, he initially appears to pull his punches somewhat when fighting the massive enhanced guy who attacked Lois, but once he knows that the guy is super tough and can take some hits and dish some out in return, he kicks it up a notch and whoops his ass. So, Clark seems to hold back until he's sure that whoever he's fighting can withstand his hits without being killed.
IOW, Zack Snyder probably hates the show.
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