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Nothing needs to "make sense" nor is there any need for retcons. It's all non-canon now. I'm advocating straight up ignoring TORtanic and making KotOR 3 as it was originally envisioned wherein the True Sith are not the lame Galactic Empire knock off that we see in SWTOR and are ultimately destroyed by Revan and the Exile over the course of the game.

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Nothing needs to "make sense" nor is there any need for retcons. It's all non-canon now. I'm advocating straight up ignoring TORtanic and making KotOR 3 as it was originally envisioned wherein the True Sith are not the lame Galactic Empire knock off that we see in SWTOR and are ultimately destroyed by Revan and the Exile over the course of the game.


Not likely. Disney won't even let the What If..?? people use Star Wars characters, in spite of the entire point of the franchise to have fun with non canon scenerios that don't count.

They're pretty draconian about protecting canon.


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Nothing needs to "make sense" nor is there any need for retcons. It's all non-canon now. I'm advocating straight up ignoring TORtanic and making KotOR 3 as it was originally envisioned wherein the True Sith are not the lame Galactic Empire knock off that we see in SWTOR and are ultimately destroyed by Revan and the Exile over the course of the game.
Oof, my bad.

I figured since they kept supporting TOR for some reason it made it canon, rip.


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I’ve never played the original.

Is this a good game or an Amazeballs game?


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^ Do you like Mass Effect? For my money, it's a better Mass Effect 1. With worse graphics and combat but a far better story and characters.


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Toxicly defending the sequel trilogy, saying how the originals suck, not even liking the KOTOR games and this was the first person that came to mind they wanted to make a Star Wars game?


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Did I miss a tweet? Where did she say that she doesn't like knights of the Old republic? She said it wasn't her favorite Star wars game. It's not mine either.


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Did I miss a tweet? Where did she say that she doesn't like knights of the Old republic? She said it wasn't her favorite Star wars game. It's not mine either.
Mine either, it's pure RPG excellence, but in terms of genre I prefer stuff like Jedi Academy. Hell I'd maybe even put Republic Commando above it if it had more levels and content.


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I think combat needs to approve at least....I'm not sure how...but I would like to see it a bit more involved.


KotOR's combat is a modified NWN combat, and that's pushing 20 years old right now. Personally, after having spent a shitton of time in Divinity: Original Sin 2 and Baldur's Gate 3, I'm all for a return to traditional turn based combat with tactical nuance for once. If it plays like Dragon Age 1, I'll dodge it like a draft. That Infinity Engine real time BS was fun years ago but I'm pushing 40 and I don't want to mind a bunch of virtual children manually because their AI is garbage and auto-pause is as jarring as spikes on a car seat.

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Why would you want TOR on consoles? It's a horrible MMO.

It's like current WoW only less good with a Star Wars paintjob.


TOR is actually pretty awesome in terms of available content, solo friendly questing, and class-centric storytelling.

And it's Star Wars. WoW jumped the shark so long ago it's barely worth bringing up anymore unless they're going to nerf more lewd background paintings.

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^ Do you like Mass Effect? For my money, it's a better Mass Effect 1. With worse graphics and combat but a far better story and characters.


Mass Effect is a MUCH better space opera, with better world building, dialogue, and combat compared to KotOR 1. Even if it has aged like an apple core in a dumpster in July.

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I think I threw up in my mouth. Is this a real person or an account of a caricature?

The Last Jedi probably the worst SW film in existence, and Rise of Skywalker might contest even that. I'd rather see George Lucas release a THX remastered version of the Christmas special than either of those films again.

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Toxicly defending the sequel trilogy, saying how the originals suck, not even liking the KOTOR games and this was the first person that came to mind they wanted to make a Star Wars game?


Hollywood, and now game companies, think it's cool to be inclusive, but instead of bringing on reasonable talent which respects people as people, they tend to bring on morons who alienate their core fanbases.

No, Gingerbitch, Rey isn't a bad character because she's a Mary Sue; she's a bad character because she has the depth of a shower puddle and half of her character arc, if you can call it that, doesn't make any ****ing sense. I went into the ST hoping to lampoon Kylo and ended up liking him much more than her. Hell, they did my boy Luke dirty by making him want to kill his nephew when he had fought tooth and nail to redeem his child-murdering estranged Dark Side using father.

Then you have Holdo, who has no respect for Poe and genuinely incites rebellion with her half-cocked leadership, Snoke being a walking red herring, Sidious/Sheev coming back for no reason at all since he's on life support, Force diodes, the remaking of Sith and Jedi homeplanets as being one-biome cesspools with no real history behind them, the First Order outpacing the old Empire by miles with mysterious funding, a Sith knife which can point to a hidden holocron, etc. etc. Oh and every single saber fight looks like Ray Charles and Geordi LaForge without his visor swatting at mosquitoes. Absolute garbage writing, nonsense excuse plots, bad characters, disrespect to established good characters in the saga...

I can't go on a tangent about this or I'll start speaking in tongues, I swear.


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"Anakin was auto-born strongest Jedi because midichlorians"

Yet he was arrogant. He failed to save his mom and his wife whom he turned to the dark side for. He got his limbs sliced off. The man died to save his son.

Yep, totally a Gary Stu. Rey had no real development or flaws to speak of. You can like her in some way, but there's no defending her like that. I was never that big on KoToR like other Star Wars games, but knowing this person's the writer with all those red flags seems to already kill interest in this game for people.


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"Anakin was auto-born strongest Jedi because midichlorians"

Yet he was arrogant. He failed to save his mom and his wife whom he turned to the dark side for. He got his limbs sliced off. The man died to save his son.

Yep, totally a Gary Stu. Rey had no real development or flaws to speak of. You can like her in some way, but there's no defending her like that. I was never that big on KoToR like other Star Wars games, but knowing this person's the writer with all those red flags seems to already kill interest in this game for people.


I mean, yeah, I wouldn't waste my time if she's the head writer. Her credits are not promising, and she had no hand in the original at all. Her inflammatory social media presence tells me she is more interested in pushing her agenda than writing objectively solid fiction and making fans eager to pony up their cash. If she botches the delivery of this game, The Old Republic might die a horrible death after all these years.


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"Anakin was auto-born strongest Jedi because midichlorians"

Yet he was arrogant. He failed to save his mom and his wife whom he turned to the dark side for. He got his limbs sliced off. The man died to save his son.

Yep, totally a Gary Stu. Rey had no real development or flaws to speak of. You can like her in some way, but there's no defending her like that. I was never that big on KoToR like other Star Wars games, but knowing this person's the writer with all those red flags seems to already kill interest in this game for people.


Well yeah, she's either a retard or is arguing in completely bad faith. Or maybe both. Plus, midichlorians were one of the biggest points of contention with the prequels.

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^ Do you like Mass Effect? For my money, it's a better Mass Effect 1. With worse graphics and combat but a far better story and characters.


Funny, reviews called kotor1 the beta for the complete ME experience.


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Well yeah, she's either a retard or is arguing in completely bad faith. Or maybe both. Plus, midichlorians were one of the biggest points of contention with the prequels.


I just don't understand it. Why was Ronald D. Moore able to write a show with all the staples of feminist programming, what with the gender swapping and the high number of women in important positions and a lot of women in general, and do it while actually writing compelling characterization, yet the current "woke" era seems blind to character building?


I mean, is it laziness? Because it sure isn't ignorance, the people helming this shite are well trained in film theory, so this is willfully turning a blind eye.


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Just in case any of you had high hopes for this remake, the company behind it is known for porting games and nothing else.

So you have a writer who hasn't written Star Wars and has a strong feminist agenda which permeates through her writing, a dev company not known for original works at all, and apparently I've heard Beamdog lost the bid to remake the game to them to boot.

Also, the fact that a remake game NEEDS a writer at all is a bit concerning, since that implies they're rewriting substantial amounts of content. If they intend to make it nu canon to mesh with Disney, I can expect only the worst.


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