abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
I think it was retconned to be at one point but there was still evidence showing it was multiversal. I don't know the current status of the retcons on its power.
Starlin himself never considered it above universal. quote:
Well they each represented at least a multiverse, so it's sort of like holding Eternity, who is the universe.
They were creators, not actually embodiment of the multiverses. quote:
Here he is considering replacing the 616 Eternity with the Ultimate universe Eternity:
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I think this is still canon.
So, universal? Cool. quote:
So this has been retconned then?
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It says he has judgment over all multiverses.
Yes. He had no command over Starbrand because it was from New Universe and couldn't retrieve the infinity gem from the Malibu universe.
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May 16th, 2022 08:02 AM
Stoic
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Starlin himself never considered it above universal.
They were creators, not actually embodiment of the multiverses.
So, universal? Cool.
Yes. He had no command over Starbrand because it was from New Universe and couldn't retrieve the infinity gem from the Malibu universe.
If for example, Perpetua was in the Marvel Universe, could she or would she be able to affect the Starbrand in the New Universe, or retrieve an Infinity gem from the Malibu Universe?
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May 16th, 2022 08:13 AM
DarkSaint85
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
If for example, Perpetua was in the Marvel Universe, could she or would she be able to affect the Starbrand in the New Universe, or retrieve an Infinity gem from the Malibu Universe?
Yes, in short.
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May 16th, 2022 08:36 AM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
The battle begins within one and only one super giant universe.
BFR is not possible.
Which one of these near omnipotent characters would be the last standing?
Doctor Manhattan
Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
Darkseid (most powerful version)
Elaine Belloc
Beyonder (original power levels)
Molecule Man
Man of Miracles
Decreator
Living Tribunal
Perpetua
Which one takes this?
Elaine... By a lot.
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May 16th, 2022 09:30 AM
zopzop
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DC is producing omniversal or multiversal+ "all powerful beings" on a monthly basis it seems. Meanwhile Marvel is crapping all over their cosmology for reasons unknown. Regarding Marvel, I wouldn't be surprised if Franklin RIchards is more powerful than the LT at this point.
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May 16th, 2022 11:09 AM
DarkSaint85
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Franklin was depowered, zop.
Checkmate
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May 16th, 2022 11:18 AM
abhilegend
Prince of All Saiyans
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by zopzop
DC is producing omniversal or multiversal+ "all powerful beings" on a monthly basis it seems. Meanwhile Marvel is crapping all over their cosmology for reasons unknown. Regarding Marvel, I wouldn't be surprised if Franklin RIchards is more powerful than the LT at this point.
Korvac wrecked LT and In Betweener, so you are right. Franklin>Galactus>Korvac>LT
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May 16th, 2022 11:54 AM
qwertyuiop1998
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TBF, Korvac killed LT and in Betweener off panel
May 16th, 2022 12:00 PM
Endless Mike
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by MrMind
[B]endless mike cosmic knowledge is still stuck from 10 years ago
More like 8 years, but yeah, that's why I don't really do debates these days, and asking for scans of everything that has been retconned wouldn't be very reasonable, so I can take your word for it until I read more stuff myself.
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May 16th, 2022 01:37 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
TBF, Korvac killed LT and in Betweener off panel
It was confirmed in recap too.
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May 16th, 2022 01:38 PM
deft
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Man of Miracles or Elaine.
May 16th, 2022 01:41 PM
zopzop
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
It was confirmed in recap too.
WTF? Seriously?
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qwertyuiop1998
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
It was confirmed in recap too.
Yes, I knew that. But it still off panel. The reason I'm hesitating to use it now is because the writer stated LT and In-Betweener let Korvac go because they knew how things would play out
Not saying writer interviews are admissible, It is just because there are still a few issues Cantwell will write in upcoming months, so he still has the chance to write what he said in the comics before he goes.
May 16th, 2022 03:12 PM
DarkSaint85
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yes, I knew that. But it still off panel. The reason I'm hesitating to use it now is because the writer stated LT and In-Betweener let Korvac go because they knew how things would play out
Not saying writer interviews are admissible, It is just because there are still a few issues Cantwell will write in upcoming months, so he still has the chance to write what he said in the comics before he goes.
Yeah, it seems at odds with Korvac's statement there, that he was too strong for them to hold.
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May 16th, 2022 03:19 PM
MrMind
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qwerty styling on you guys
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May 16th, 2022 03:31 PM
abhilegend
Prince of All Saiyans
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yes, I knew that. But it still off panel. The reason I'm hesitating to use it now is because the writer stated LT and In-Betweener let Korvac go because they knew how things would play out
Not saying writer interviews are admissible, It is just because there are still a few issues Cantwell will write in upcoming months, so he still has the chance to write what he said in the comics before he goes.
Which interview?
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May 16th, 2022 06:58 PM
Stoic
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by MrMind
endless mike cosmic knowledge is still stuck from 10 years ago
Elaine is effectively omnipotent, there is no nigh or near, her omnipotence is not lesser than the likes of TOAA, not by a long shot
Then you have a bunch of people who are completely out of their league compare to some others on the list,
like what is LT, IG Thanos and Darkseid doing here lmfao,
it is a stoic thread so I don't expect too much from it
if I have to rank them from most powerful to least
Elaine Belloc
Man of Miracles
Doctor Manhattan--Perpetua (they around same level)
Beyonder (original power levels)
Molecule Man
Living Tribunal
Darkseid (most powerful version)
Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet (lol)
Decreator has no notable feat I remember, somebody can clue me in on him, but if I have to guess he be in the bottom of the totem pole as well
You keep doing to yourself bruh. I got the list from an online site. Stay in your lane man.
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May 17th, 2022 12:55 AM
qwertyuiop1998
The Vampire
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May 17th, 2022 01:07 AM
abhilegend
Prince of All Saiyans
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That handle isn't even verified if its him lol
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