Originally posted by wolverine8888
in there second fight wolverine fights him with his fists and hit spiderman mroe times then spiderman hits him and in there first fight niether one hit eachother unless they were letting them self get hit
It's because of his fanbase that he's doing such things. I heard Wolverine was taking punches hard enough to break the tombstone he was supported by from Spiderman and didn't have any visual damage. Adamantium bones or not, his skin should of been torn up.
God some of you write like 3 year olds. For the fifth time, Spider-man had the upper hand in Spider-Man vs. Wolverine, it ended in a draw to please the fans, with Spidey's hands around Wolvie's throat and Wolvie's claws up to Spidey's throat. The fact of the matter is Wolverine HIMSELF said 'all you have to do is squeeze, break my neck, and you win.' Spider-man EASILY has the strength to do this, Wolverine acknowledges this, Spider-Man could have killed him, but he doesn't work that way. That does not mean he can't BEAT Wolverine, because he can. Wolverine's healing factor is not sufficient to keep him from getting a beating, all it means is that he'll heal from that beating. People seem to think the healing factor prevents injuries, it doesn't, it simply regenerates injuries.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It's because of his fanbase that he's doing such things. I heard Wolverine was taking punches hard enough to break the tombstone he was supported by from Spiderman and didn't have any visual damage. Adamantium bones or not, his skin should of been torn up.
wolverines reflexes arent that strong, but even with all those things i've seen spiderman get hit a thousand times by alot of people while his spider-sense went off, as opposed to wolverine smelling and hearing them before they even got close enough to do damage, sure spidey's reflexes are better but wolverines reflexes are pretty damn good also, so even if spidey gets a hit on wolvie, it doesnt matter because it wont do much
by the way wolvie's been battered by cyber (while he had no adamantium) and still took most of it without a big problem, till the breaking of his bone claws though
and again, wolverines been hit by two speeding cars (he was in the middle of both of them, with no adamantium in his body) and of course not being able to just walk away from it his spine was shattered and he still survived it
well its actually wolvi's fan base that saves him most of the time. wolvi's healing factor won't be much use coz spidey doesn't use blades or anything that would cut open logan. spidey basically is a punch and kick (and web) guy. a good punch from spidey to the chin of wolvi will knock wolvi out cold. i don't see the same scene coming from logan.
knock him out cold? are you crazy, wolvie's taken hits from cyber (full adamantium body except his face) and not gotten knocked out cold, its almost impossible for him to get knocked unconcious by anyone near his scope
even some characters with not much of a fanbase are saved by writers, when it comes to fanbase spidey's completely outclasses wolvie's (just look at the poll)
Spider-Man didn't knock Wolverine out cold even after he gave him his best shots. Of course the writing was stupid because a punch that shatters concrete is going to hurt Wolvie no two ways about it. Nevertheless, Spider-Man can daze Wolverine with enough punches. He's done it to Hulk and Hulk is vastly more durable than Wolverine. Granted, Wolvie's faster than Hulk, but he's not as fast as Spider-Man. Eventually he would be worn down. And Wolverine's sense of smell wouldn't factor in, because it doesn't help him know when a punch or kick is coming. It's not like a danger sense.
Alright, I found the discussion I was referencing, quote is from Never. Oddly enough it was a debate about spidey vs wolverine.
Originally posted by Never
Interesting, all of this and Elektra beat his ass silly and had him clutching his LUNGS (she punctured both of them) and left for dead. But this is about Spiderman vs. Wolverine...Some stuff Wolverine has done? Get his ass almost killed by Elektra, concede that Elektra WOULD kill him, get stopped cold in his tracks by Daredevil with a karate chop to the throat, get stalemated by Punisher AND Archangel (during the story arc in Genosha when Jim Lee drew him), get knocked out by Omega Red (X-Men relaunch with Jim Lee), had his claws broken by Sabertooth, get stalemated by Sabertooth, get frightened to death by Cyber, struggle MIGHTILY against Silver Samurai (Uncanny #173), get absentmindedly backhanded by Spiderman in Secret Wars #3 when he ran through all of the X-Men without getting touched (since we are referencing X-Men fights).
Hand ninjas? Daredevil with Stick and Stone waded through "hundreds of Hand ninjas." They did it here:
Elektra singlehandedly killed countless numbers of members of the Hand. Hand ninjas are merely fodder. Not impressive.
Silver Samurai? LoL, he was getting his ass beaten. He broke Samurai's arm in the end, however - and Samurai ranks where on the list of Marvel's greatest martial artists? Behind Elektra, Shang Chi, Gamora, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Black Panther, Captain America - i.e. WAY down there. Not impressive.
He is a master of multiple forms of martial arts and gets his ass routinely handed to him by...masters of multiple forms of martial arts. Not impressive.
Am sorry to say that Spiderman is ROUTINELY written as a better - hmm, more RESOURCEFUL combatant than Wolverine is. In pure h2h one THINKS Wolverine would have the upper hand based on pure martial arts skills, but Spiderman has developed his own eclectic fighting style - not to mention that his reflexes are faster than a human's by a factor of 15. Wolverine HAS no superspeed and CANNOT "dodge bullets" in the same manner that Spiderman can.
Spiderman is quicker, faster, oodles stronger, and has his Spidey sense.
One can make a WEAK argument that Wolverine can defeat Spiderman - however, how can one defeat what one cannot TOUCH?
Do recall Daredevil slaughtering Sabertooth in Daredevil #213. Sabertooth landed a few blows while Daredevil was burdened with the hostage; however, after the hostage escaped, Daredevil kicked Sabertooth's ass without being touched. Sabertooth ran and ducked into a sewer to escape.
The same Sabertooth that routinely gives Wolverine fits. Daredevil stomped him. Sabertooth easily carved up Wolverine.
Spiderman > Daredevil. Is it really necessary to continue...?
Haven't read the issue, so I won't say for certain what happened. You'll have to PM Never for more details, or the issue #.
sabretooth breaks his claws? never happened
scared to death of cyber, if he means wolverine unsheathing his claws and thinking "his face is his weak spot" then i guess wolverine was afraid, and when cyber shattered his bone claws, wolverine did freak, none the less he only recovered from it like it was nothing
and most of what happened to him against elektra and daredevil were in the elektra and daredevil comics (which of course would pay more homage to daredevil and elektra than a guest-starring wolverine)
and the ever so stupid marvel knights wolverine/punisher cross-over, punisher shot wolverine and missed then they tussled on the ground (neither were even using covert op techniques) and they got tired.......and then they stop fighting and talk....
if you read elektra: the hand you would see that she isnt having an easy time with them, and in wolverine the end he fights 40 ninja's (which would be nothing in his younger years but he was like 240 years old lol) he's fought the hand by himself also, an endless amount of ninja's (in the claremont/miller mini-series, not to mention a hundred other times) and that was a walk in the park grind-house samurai showdown style
sabretooth and wolverine fight all the time, what he didnt say is that wolverine usually chucks sabretooth over the side of a mountain or some other way where he cant come back that same issue, one of the very few times sabretooth won against logan was before logan even had the weapon x treatment, or remembered of his life as a samurai, the first time he also had his berserker rage although it didnt prove much against sabretooth, nonetheless he gave him a good fight
man im tired heheh
Originally posted by Krissy Von Doom
Spidey gets hit even with his spidersense because he usually looks out for bystanders and puts himself in danger. If it was just Spidey and Wolvie, the spider sense keeps Parker safe from Logan.
as for spidermans punch that could shatter concrete, sure it'll hit wolverine pretty damn hard, it wont shatter anything though since he has the adamantium in his bones, the very idea of spiderman winning on the count of snapping wolverines neck is stupid, the writer just wanted to please both sides of the equation very much like the wolverine/punisher fight.....and of course the ever so egotistical writers who sometimes took over daredevil and elektra solo's would've had the characters beating up thor and SS if they had the chance
Originally posted by Ka1n
i wonder what spider could do to wolverine... shot a web? is this going to kill him somehow ? noway
i cant even imagine how spider could probably kill wolverine
Lol, you don't know anything about Spider-man do you? You probably don't know much about Wolverine either outside the movies. Spider-Man can kill Wolverine by beating him to death. He is 10 times stronger. Fact.
Originally posted by Havoc470
yeah, i guess you have to look out for innocent bystanders on top of a skyscraper...as for spidermans punch that could shatter concrete, sure it'll hit wolverine pretty damn hard, it wont shatter anything though since he has the adamantium in his bones, the very idea of spiderman winning on the count of snapping wolverines neck is stupid, the writer just wanted to please both sides of the equation very much like the wolverine/punisher fight.....and of course the ever so egotistical writers who sometimes took over daredevil and elektra solo's would've had the characters beating up thor and SS if they had the chance
What? Spider-Man can most certainly snap Wolverine's neck. Wolverine has acknowledged that he can die by having his neck snapped. Hulk did it just fine. People misunderstand the adamantium. Wolverine's skeleton is not made of adamantium, it is laced with adamantium, meaning he is much more durable. However, his bones can be broken. The cartilage in the neck is not laced with the adamantium, thus it can be destroyed. The spine is laced, but the spine can be manipulated *turned one way or another* and thus with the spine being manipulated to a point of breaking, Wolverine can have his neck broken. All it takes it an extreme amount of strength because the bones are within the adamantium lacing. A normal person could not do it, Spider-Man could.
Originally posted by wrathofachilles
Lol, you don't know anything about Spider-man do you? You probably don't know much about Wolverine either outside the movies. Spider-Man can kill Wolverine by beating him to death. He is 10 times stronger. Fact.
Wolverine strength 4 and Spiders 4
yeah i admit Spider-man maybe stronger than Wolverine but not 10 times
and anyway it wouldn't help Sp, Wolverine still would won