Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Metalmanx1,019 pages
Originally posted by jinzin
ummmm this isn't ultimate wolvie...

No offense, but that really shouldn't matter.

First of all, it was never specified in the parameters of the thread. It just said Wolverine. Could be any Wolverine.

Second, it just really shows how inconsistant he can be even in his drawings. I know that Spiderman has been drawn different ways, but they never affected his abilities, or drew some limb out of place. And yea, I know it's not really a big deal where his claws are, but in a sense, it does in fact change his physiology.

That's all I'm trying to say.

Originally posted by Logan 87
Of course, its bad writing. Spidey is out of wolvies league 🙄 yet he takes beatings from

Its becuase you guys can't explain it, he isn't strong enough period.

Oh I loooooooooooooooove how cresh and the others come back in after I'm gone.

Yea I've been reading your last posts. It seems like you can't get anything by me, so you start your b. tactics, or blaming to use a piece of evidence to work for you. "He just did it." I already knew he did, come out of the webbing, but that doesn't change the fact that he is insufficient to do it.

As for the tired, "wolverine beat xxxx" argument. pffft. Most of those big guys, you put up there tore him up to bits, so X-Logan coming in here and putting up pics of juggernaut, just because you could insuccessfully prove your point, hurts YOUR credibility.

Back to cresh, I don't see you explain anything ONCE, or answer a question. You literally simply twists things around until the person doesnt feel like responding, Much like another guy.

Cresh's arguing style:

YOU: The sky is blue.

CRESH: No its not.

YOU: Its surely blue. Its as blue as the ocean!!

CRESH: Not all oceans are blue. Some are brown, like the crap in New York. Surely just because you don't see this, doesn't make it so.

You take away from the argument, and whats worse, you contradict yourself, alot. Don't use marvel authors (wolverine organ ripping), then anything that makes wolverine looks like a god is good, and anything that makes spiderman look weak is PIS/CIS.

I got to you on leverage, you agree. I got you on him being physically unable to break the webbing, you agree. I broke you down to the point where the only way you said wolverine would win is by tiring him out, which in NO WAY gives him the greater edge of the battles. When you ran out of steam, you brought up the same points over and over and over again. Then you convert back to he did it "graveyard scene" and "rooftop scene". If thats the case, wolverine and the xmen were handed to by spiderman.

As for being ignored, ever wondererd "why". We disagree with you and you do little to explain, you go to things that have little to do with the match, just like MISTER and the others said. Its what you've been doing when I first argued with you, and you're going to keep doing it. Only improvement you've made is not using" fallacy of exlusion" and terms like that. If you feel we are ignoring you, then why do you bother posting, to be annoying, do you want attention? Last I checked, it was wolverine vs. spiderman, not Everyone vs. Creshosk's approval. So I'm going to grant your little request, and put you on the ignore list. I'm done letting everyone be convinced you have been giving me an argument just because of the pages around it. Enjoy picking apart your last post from me, that I'm going to respond to.

Welcoome to the C-hater club. Do you want tha-

Wait don't answer that, I won't be able to see your posts anyway.

Originally posted by jinzin
it doesn't change the fact that spiderman webbed up wolvie while wolvie wasn't fighting him, and after he'd been attacked, and that wolverine escaped with enough ease WHEN HE WANTED TO....I wouldn't want to hurt myself either if I had the choice, when he felt without choice he got free easily...

Do you agree however, that wolverine loses if he can't break from the webbing, and if he can't use his claws he can't break from it.

I already knew that he "broke" from it, but he shouldn't have.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I already knew he did, come out of the webbing, but that doesn't change the fact that he is insufficient to do it.[/b
😕

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
[B]As for the tired, "wolverine beat xxxx" argument. pffft. Most of those big guys, you put up there tore him up to bits, so X-Logan coming in here and putting up pics of juggernaut, just because you could insuccessfully prove your point, hurts YOUR credibility.
That's why I stayed away from Wolverine vs the big guys. . because it's irrelavent to the topic. . unless hulk started shotting webs and flipped around with the speed and agility of Spiderman. . . . sortof a Hulkin Spider. . . or Spiderhulk . . . or something. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Back to cresh, I don't see you explain anything ONCE, or answer a question. You literally simply twists things around until the person doesnt feel like responding, Much like another guy.
But I did answer. . . I said exactly what he did. . . the claws come out severing the webs holding his hands to his face. 🙁 That's what happened. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You take away from the argument, and whats worse, you contradict yourself, alot. Don't use marvel authors (wolverine organ ripping), then anything that makes wolverine looks like a god is good, and anything that makes spiderman look weak is PIS/CIS.
That's what I've been saying you've been doing for Spiderman. 🙁

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I got to you on leverage, you agree. I got you on him being physically unable to break the webbing, you agree. I broke you down to the point where the only way you said wolverine would win is by tiring him out, which in NO WAY gives him the greater edge of the battles.
True, but I just couldn't see what Spiderman was going to do to Wolverine is the problem. Wolverine had one option. Spiderman didn't have anything.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
When you ran out of steam, you brought up the same points over and over and over again.
You started getting inflamatory when MetalmanX posted that one picture. . then Zahit came in and then you started up with some weird ass "addicted to arguing thing" that you guys were will ing to argue. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Then you convert back to he did it "graveyard scene" and "rooftop scene". If thats the case, wolverine and the xmen were handed to by spiderman.
The difference is that I've mentioned three places where virtually the same thing happened each time. You've mentioned one thing that we've already pointed out WHY it's PIS/CIS. . . where as all you've said is "It's a crossover". . . without explaining what was wrong with it. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
As for being ignored, ever wondererd "why". We disagree with you and you do little to explain,
No, I explained exactly what happened, but you didn't like the explination so you said I didn't explain. . . That's ignoreing the point I was making instead of countering. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
you go to things that have little to do with the match, just like MISTER and the others said.
And what's all this?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Its what you've been doing when I first argued with you, and you're going to keep doing it. Only improvement you've made is not using" fallacy of exlusion" and terms like that. If you feel we are ignoring you, then why do you bother posting, to be annoying, do you want attention?
I have as much right to be here as you do. If you choose to ignore me fine. But just ignoring me won't get me to leave.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Last I checked, it was wolverine vs. spiderman, not Everyone vs. Creshosk's approval.
Or yours?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
So I'm going to grant your little request, and put you on the ignore list. I'm done letting everyone be convinced you have been giving me an argument just because of the pages around it. Enjoy picking apart your last post from me, that I'm going to respond to.
Personally I thought you were more resiliant. . I didn't know that these fights were getting to you. . .

And you responded, typical.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
And you responded, typical.
And so are you despite me being on ignore.

When I did that to Who-?kid I was making a point. And I made it. 🙂

I love how smart you sound responding to people who can't read your posts, keep it up, thats why merc left, he had noone to talk to anymore, I don't even think he got banned, let me check.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I love how smart you sound responding to people who can't read your posts, keep it up, thats why merc left, he had noone to talk to anymore, I don't even think he got banned, let me check.
As opposed to responding to a person you can't even read?

No, seriously. they say I'M addicted to arguing. . and yet here you are responding to me. . .

Whats that?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Whats that?
Well it makes me think that you can indeed read my posts. Or else why would you even bother responding to something you can't read?

I did it once to prove a point. You?

Originally posted by jinzin
...........

As I'm examining your pictures, I don't see ANYWHERE that the claws actually slahed the webbing, his arms moved, which shouldn't have happened, becuase HE isn't strong enough to move the webbing.

I could be smashed inbetween 2 semi's (for whatever reason), I still couldn't get the leverage to get out with a piece of metal.

How did he slash, if the claws never broke any webbing, they only jutted his arms out? If his arms were given the benfit of the doubt, and moved a BACK few inches, he still wouldn't be able to move his arms UP AND DOWN to slash the webbing in the first place.

Which is why this picture is misleading, that and if he was like that, it would have been a defeat in the area, as spiderman could've kept webbing him up, he was hardly webbed at that point when he was breaking out, so some time HAD to have expired.

Did you respond again? I can ONLY see your name, as it has to be shown, not your avatar or anything else, thus I know you have posted, but since noone else has, I feel you are arguing with a person who can't see you.

Originally posted by jinzin
seriously how is webbing gonna stop him from rolling his wrist?

and attacking his claws? that's what this has come down to? pffft I guess I should attack batman for being inconsistant everytime his ears have different lengths to them, or cap shows up in his mesh suit, then his flat suit, or when hulk is wearing blue jeans instead of purple....🙄

Too bad claws aren't a costume.

If its bound tightly he can't move his writst, OR gain leverage. I'm not talking about that example, I'm saying period, if his claws were in a position where they cannot be used, he can't break free, incapacitated, and thus the loser.

Originally posted by jinzin
it doesn't change the fact that spiderman webbed up wolvie while wolvie wasn't fighting him, and after he'd been attacked, and that wolverine escaped with enough ease WHEN HE WANTED TO....I wouldn't want to hurt myself either if I had the choice, when he felt without choice he got free easily...

He still shouldn't have been able to move his forearms, spiderman can web those claws fine, and he has dodged worse before seriously, this is why I don't like "he did" arguments all the time, because wolverine's claws slice through logic.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Did you respond again? I can ONLY see your name, as it has to be shown, not your avatar or anything else, thus I know you have posted, but since noone else has, I feel you are arguing with a person who can't see you.
At least I'm not arguing with a person I can't see. 😛

Seriously, you are more addicted to arguing than I am. I argue things I can see. You aregue things you can't.

I know what I'm responding to. You don't have a clue. . and yet you still feel the need to respond. Why don't you stop? Can't you stop responding to me?

Now I'm doing it to prove a point. . you can't not respond.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
As I'm examining your pictures, I don't see ANYWHERE that the claws actually slahed the webbing, his arms moved, which shouldn't have happened, becuase HE isn't strong enough to move the webbing.

I could be smashed inbetween 2 semi's (for whatever reason), I still couldn't get the leverage to get out with a piece of metal.

How did he slash, if the claws never broke any webbing, they only jutted his arms out? If his arms were given the benfit of the doubt, and moved a BACK few inches, he still wouldn't be able to move his arms UP AND DOWN to slash the webbing in the first place.

Which is why this picture is misleading, that and if he was like that, it would have been a defeat in the area, as spiderman could've kept webbing him up, he was hardly webbed at that point when he was breaking out, so some time HAD to have expired.

I already told you that his claws slice through when they first come out, and slowly he gains more leverage to cut more.

He got out fairly quickly there too.

You just can't accept it because you hate Wolverine.

^lol

*DAPS CRESHOCK*

Originally posted by Logan 87
Lol you guys prooved that web thing well. The point is they said he cant escape, and believed so strongly about it.

He can't if he can't move his claws. DOes anyone understand leverage?
Some time has passed between that, and he had significantly less webbing on him.

How did he move his arms, if they only shot back a little? IF they were webbed up sufficiently( which they may or may not have been) How did he move his arms up and down, where did he get that movement?

Originally posted by Pointinel
^lol

*DAPS CRESHOCK*

You still trying to argue, you do a poor job, keep backpatting.