Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
But everyone uses hulk can't hurt him.Dude I've been contributing to this thread a long damn time, and noones been able to counter my leverage,velocity, and ineritia.
Spiderman holds him,he isn't moving.
who said that? I've only seen arguments implying that hulk hasn't been able to put him down on average....none that he can't hurt logan..
Originally posted by jinzin
who said that? I've only seen arguments implying that hulk hasn't been able to put him down on average....none that he can't hurt logan..
It isn't you, but people keep saying he's getting up from blows, when he was ko'ed from glancing ones.
I'm getting sleepy now, not much has happened on this thread.
what happens when you break a bone? it heals and becomes stronger.
what happens when you subject your muscles to trauma? they become stronger.
what happens when you condition your stomach for boxing? it becomes stronger....
given wolverine's power is it that radical to assume his body is steadily becoming stronger the more and more he fights super powered foes...?
Originally posted by jinzin
what happens when you break a bone? it heals and becomes stronger.what happens when you subject your muscles to trauma? they become stronger.
what happens when you condition your stomach for boxing? it becomes stronger....
given wolverine's power is it that radical to assume his body is steadily becoming stronger the more and more he fights super powered foes...?
I understand I train, but he's at where a human is getting, he wouldn't survive such concussive forces, and such of that greatness, and not at other times.
That happens slowly and still reaches a limit, you know how you get to that max at weight lifting, but don't increase as fast?
Anyway, this isn't going to change perspective overnight in regards to who wins.
BUt its an interesting discussion.
a simple yes or no would have sufficed....
okay now again wolverine's brain literally paves itself smooth to protect wolverine from his horrible memories...that's far outside a human's capabilities....now if his brain as come to adapt itself to keep him from suffering mental pain...is it not a possibility that his brain has also adapted to protect him from physical harm as well?...
(my take...this is why classic wolverine used to get KOed fairly easily but wolverine as of today does not.......adaptation is the key word here....)
Originally posted by jinzin
a simple yes or no would have sufficed....okay now again wolverine's brain literally paves itself smooth to protect wolverine from his horrible memories...that's far outside a human's capabilities....now if his brain as come to adapt itself to keep him from suffering mental pain...is it not a possibility that his brain has also adapted to protect him from physical harm as well?...
(my take...this is why classic wolverine used to get KOed fairly easily but wolverine as of today does not.......adaptation is the key word here....)
I'm agreeing with the classic wolverine, but because he was less popular.
A human can't train his brain to stop moving, he can't train to negate inertia, see what I mean??
You aren't grasping what I'm saying
The brain is perhaps the weakest organ in the body, any collision of SUCH a force, is going Pank!! with that skull. Memories, aren't the same here, many lobes are intact, AND to add to that, heightened senses make it worse, he can't heal BEFORE the initial trauma, a ko is a ko.
I just want to make 4 things clear here, with regards to ANY character:
1: Inertia, if you were to hit a punching bag(the small coordination one , dexterity training), you see it reacts. It moves around, alot. Same with a person, except with the inside. If you were to hit someone in the head, the victim inside would feel the force (brain). The energy just doesn't stop at the inital hit.
2: Stronger metal absorbs such forces less. People often mistake the adamantium for not feeling any damage, and the adamantium absorbing ALL of the damage. The reverse is true, tougher metals absorb less because their bonds don't give in to the force. If I were to drive an indestructable car, and collide with something (wall) with a great force, I would still get tossed around, moreso even. In fact newer cars actually give MORE support to the victim by moving in to absorb more damage of collsion. In short, the adamatium ABSORBS the hits fine.
3: The velocity in attacks are there to make the hit into an even greater effect.
A 30000 lifter with the starting velocity of (300-400mph first sec), is stronger than many realize. The writers don't often include that (everything would die, or a character holds back), but its all included here, because this is a HYPOTHETICAL argument.
4: Using that SAME TOKEN, just because a char was hit by a 100 ton lifter, than that doesn't mean the hits were at 100 tons. If I were to get hit by WW and stand up, I wouldn't go "I survived a 100 ton hit", so its hard to measure hits in comics, because often you'll see a guy like batman do more damage to a guy, than a hit by flash.
Thats all.
actually I do get what you're saying and I've read these same points about 12 times now....
adamantium absorbs impact...obviously.....it's not an earhtbound metal in real life so I fail to see what your conclussion on it's ability to absorb impact is based off of...the rest of your argument is simply making wolverine out to be just a human with really hard bones....he's no ordinary human so I fail to see how that's a significant point as well......
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resorting to mocking now..
If you got it then I'd need not restate it, you guys wonder where the watering down comes from.
He takes damage JUST LIKE A HUMAN!! HE does its that simple, I don't care about innacurate stuff meant to please ignorant fans, its truth.
And this is why the thread shall die, same old marvel doesn't agree.
where's my sleep smilie.
Why can't people accept that Wolvie's a mutant. Who the hell grows claws as a defense mechanism? That's freaken weird. The guy basically evolves on the spot everytime something traumatic happens to him. Spidey supporters are just holding on to old Wolvie because that's the way they want it to be. If that's the case fine, Current Spidey beats the hell out of Wolverine from decades ago. All you sorrowful bunch can just stop posting now. Leave this thread for people who want to argue current versions of both characters.
Originally posted by jinzin
he doesn't take damage just like a human does...how many peopel do you know have an adamantium skeleton much less a healing factor?
So people all the sudden up their damage taking THAT much, wolverine wouldn't be the only one doing that, and spiderman would hit harder.
This is straw pulling.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Why can't people accept that Wolvie's a mutant. Who the hell grows claws as a defense mechanism? That's freaken weird. The guy basically evolves on the spot everytime something traumatic happens to him. Spidey supporters are just holding on to old Wolvie because that's the way they want it to be. If that's the case fine, Current Spidey beats the hell out of Wolverine from decades ago. All you sorrowful bunch can just stop posting now. Leave this thread for people who want to argue current versions of both characters.
Thank you for being man enough and admitting your teams defeat, I've gained some respect for you.
And yes grey, its like that thread, it needs to die. That match stalemates, fanboys keep this one going.
Let the thead die.
Originally posted by jinzinJinzin jinzin my pore mess guided friend there has been many cases where people's brains have block out the trauma of stuff that happened to them are they saw.Such as rape,car accidents,and some one being murdered are dieing.So in short what you are suggesting to be a mutant acted is not but just a human brain self defense or it shielding its self against things you can not handle remembering at the time.
a simple yes or no would have sufficed....okay now again wolverine's brain literally paves itself smooth to protect wolverine from his horrible memories...that's far outside a human's capabilities....now if his brain as come to adapt itself to keep him from suffering mental pain...is it not a possibility that his brain has also adapted to protect him from physical harm as well?...
(my take...this is why classic wolverine used to get KOed fairly easily but wolverine as of today does not.......adaptation is the key word here....)