I think you might be over estimating tensile strength, especially in this case. That number may be accurate for determing the amount of pressure that is needed to break or bend an item but it is unfairly giving an impression that the same amount of pressure is needed to cut said object.
Example, try grabbing a rope, and pulling it apart, then try cutting it with a knife, obviously one is much easier.
Originally posted by Dr.SpiderHulk
Friend? 🙂I see him losing as much as him winning....maybe they still not be better than either.....wolverine is possible 190 year....he had fighted more battles....he heals too...
no tie maybe?
Why do you think it a tie? If Wolverine hits Spiderman there is a good chance Spiderman will bleed to death.
Originally posted by Dr.SpiderHulk
Friend? 🙂I see him losing as much as him winning....maybe they still not be better than either.....wolverine is possible 190 year....he had fighted more battles....he heals too...
no tie maybe?
Yes friend.
Spiderman has the superior strength,speed, dexterity, coordination, versatility, creativity, intelligence, creativity, wall crawling, and webbing wolverine cannot break.
If spiderman goes on a wall, what can wolverine do?
Wolverine background says he's fought that long, but wolverine is only a peak human, and has trouble with guys like Captain America and Daredevil.
Spiderman has precognition, he can sense the attack before it HAPPENS
That leaves wolverine with a healing factor, he'd have to do a hell of a lot of healing after this match, spiderman can rip his organs, web him up, put a car on him, drown him, electrocute him, etc etc etc.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
I think you might be over estimating tensile strength, especially in this case. That number may be accurate for determing the amount of pressure that is needed to break or bend an item but it is unfairly giving an impression that the same amount of pressure is needed to cut said object.Example, try grabbing a rope, and pulling it apart, then try cutting it with a knife, obviously one is much easier.
I've been through this, did I say he cannot CUT the webbing?
By that same factor, put a guy tied up in rope, with his wrists up, and he won't be simply breaking it.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Why do you think it a tie? If Wolverine hits Spiderman there is a good chance Spiderman will bleed to death.
And herein lies the problem. wolverine's healing factor is like batman's belt, no matter what you say, someone's going to exaggerate, the real reason this match is still going on.
Spiderman at his best would dodge, wolverine would shrug of hits,(this is being nice).
By that, spiderman would be unscathed, and wolverine would be webbed up.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
And herein lies the problem. wolverine's healing factor is like batman's belt, no matter what you say, someone's going to exaggerate, the real reason this match is still going on.Spiderman at his best would dodge, wolverine would shrug of hits,(this is being nice).
By that, spiderman would be unscathed, and wolverine would be webbed up.
First off I didn't even mention the healing factor.
Spiderman can't dodge everything, wolverine can't shrug off everything, just almost anything Spidey can do.
By that, Spidey would be a bloody pulp and Wolvie would a little hungry.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
First off I didn't even mention the healing factor.Spiderman can't dodge everything, wolverine can't shrug off everything, just almost anything Spidey can do.
By that, Spidey would be a bloody pulp and Wolvie would a little hungry.
He can dodge ANYTHING logan gives him if he wants to, and why can't logan shrug off attacks from guys like daredevil?
I never said you mentioned it, I just know it was going to be.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He can dodge ANYTHING logan gives him if he wants to, and why can't logan shrug off attacks from guys like daredevil?I never said you mentioned it, I just know it was going to be.
DD hits more effeciently than Spiderman. DD is a trained fighter and picks where to hit very carefully.
You sound scared of the healing factor.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
DD hits more effeciently than Spiderman. DD is a trained fighter and picks where to hit very carefully.You sound scared of the healing factor.
He hits more proificient, not efficient, spiderman would get a workout with daredevil and little else, if he was going all out.
DD only did good to keep the fight interesting, no different than wolverine vs spiderman, or wolverine vs hulk.
No, the healing factor is overrated, and changes from writer to writer. and people want to bs it, and think that its going over the vets head around here.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He hits more proificient, not efficient, spiderman would get a workout with daredevil and little else, if he was going all out.DD only did good to keep the fight interesting, no different than wolverine vs spiderman, or wolverine vs hulk.
No, the healing factor is overrated, and changes from writer to writer. and people want to bs it, and think that its going over the vets head around here.
If you knew that then why did you ask the question?
Quite different seeing as DD's put him out, and Wolvie's put spidey out, and Hulk's put Wolvie out. All very bad examples.
Yeah, it does change from writer to writer, but you make it seem like we're talking Wolvie back in Miller's day (which I too prefer, it's just not the character we're argueing.) And a bludgeon just isn't too impressive against adamantium.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
If you knew that then why did you ask the question?Quite different seeing as DD's put him out, and Wolvie's put spidey out, and Hulk's put Wolvie out. All very bad examples.
Yeah, it does change from writer to writer, but you make it seem like we're talking Wolvie back in Miller's day (which I too prefer, it's just not the character we're argueing.) And a bludgeon just isn't too impressive against adamantium.
Where is wolverine putting spiderman out. DD is a worse hitter than spiderman overrall, so is batman, but batman would do well, its all about the fans.
Thor,xmen, hell firelord and titania, couldn't touch him, he's too fast, if you want to go by that. Wolverine gets souped up while spiderman gets a handicap to keep the fight interesting.
What are you talking about thats totally wrong, concussive is better against logan.
1: Inertia, if you were to hit a punching bag(the small coordination one , dexterity training), you see it reacts. It moves around, alot. Same with a person, except with the inside. If you were to hit someone in the head, the victim inside would feel the force (brain). The energy just doesn't stop at the inital hit.
2: Stronger metal absorbs such forces less. People often mistake the adamantium for not feeling any damage, and the adamantium absorbing ALL of the damage. The reverse is true, tougher metals absorb less because their bonds don't give in to the force. If I were to drive an indestructable car, and collide with something (wall) with a great force, I would still get tossed around, moreso even. In fact newer cars actually give MORE support to the victim by moving in to absorb more damage of collsion. In short, the adamatium ABSORBS the hits fine.
3: The velocity in attacks are there to make the hit into an even greater effect.
A 30000 lifter with the starting velocity of (300-400mph first sec), is stronger than many realize. The writers don't often include that (everything would die, or a character holds back), but its all included here, because this is a HYPOTHETICAL argument.
4: Using that SAME TOKEN, just because a char was hit by a 100 ton lifter, than that doesn't mean the hits were at 100 tons. If I were to get hit by WW and stand up, I wouldn't go "I survived a 100 ton hit", so its hard to measure hits in comics, because often you'll see a guy like batman do more damage to a guy, than a hit by flash.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Where is wolverine putting spiderman out. DD is a worse hitter than spiderman overrall, so is batman, but batman would do well, its all about the fans.Thor,xmen, hell firelord and titania, couldn't touch him, he's too fast, if you want to go by that. Wolverine gets souped up while spiderman gets a handicap to keep the fight interesting.
What are you talking about thats totally wrong, concussive is better against logan.
1: Inertia, if you were to hit a punching bag(the small coordination one , dexterity training), you see it reacts. It moves around, alot. Same with a person, except with the inside. If you were to hit someone in the head, the victim inside would feel the force (brain). The energy just doesn't stop at the inital hit.
2: Stronger metal absorbs such forces less. People often mistake the adamantium for not feeling any damage, and the adamantium absorbing ALL of the damage. The reverse is true, tougher metals absorb less because their bonds don't give in to the force. If I were to drive an indestructable car, and collide with something (wall) with a great force, I would still get tossed around, moreso even. In fact newer cars actually give MORE support to the victim by moving in to absorb more damage of collsion. In short, the adamatium ABSORBS the hits fine.
3: The velocity in attacks are there to make the hit into an even greater effect.
A 30000 lifter with the starting velocity of (300-400mph first sec), is stronger than many realize. The writers don't often include that (everything would die, or a character holds back), but its all included here, because this is a HYPOTHETICAL argument.4: Using that SAME TOKEN, just because a char was hit by a 100 ton lifter, than that doesn't mean the hits were at 100 tons. If I were to get hit by WW and stand up, I wouldn't go "I survived a 100 ton hit", so its hard to measure hits in comics, because often you'll see a guy like batman do more damage to a guy, than a hit by flash.
Well here's some more of you fallacies, and I'm glad you brought this back up because it was already countered when I first saw it.
Punisher, DD, the Goblins, the white ninja, Fisk, where all fast enough to touch him, so why isn't Wolvie (even though he too already tagged him several times.)
Inertia sure, but we have precedent, Usually wolvie doesn't get knocked out.
Stronger metals=less force absorbtion good point. But according to you this is a hypothetical fight, so Spidey breaks his hands, unless his hands are stronger than adamantium now.
I have no idea where you got that starting velocity, in fact I'm pretty sure you just made it up. Since when does hypothetical mean "stuff Mitch made up"
This next part is just funny. Just cause you get hit by a class 100 lifter doesn't mean you survived a 100 ton hit, but just because you get hit by a 15 tonner it automatically means he doesn't nothing but 15 ton hits. And WW is a bad example because of her hypersonic speeds.