wrathofachilles, Hulk puts the girl down after and says he was bluffing when Wolverine gets in close enough for him to be grabbed. I remember that comic... I don't remember a Hulk vs Wolverine #8 though, it isn't even listed in the Ultimate Wolverine Price Guide.
I just checked and it turns out I have Wolverine vs. Hulk #8... strange
okay smartass, Losing their lovers is what's gonna fuel the rage for the fight so I think that that has a great amount to do with the outcome (isn't that what this whole thread's about?) thats my point, its ridiculous that I even have to explain it to you. Statisticly? Statisticly spider-mans been hit by much much slower people than wolverine so statisticly wolverine shouldn't have a problem cutting him to shreds. Statisticaly, spiderman hasn't been able to hit everyone of his enemies with his web shooter either, so statisticaly wolverine should be able to dodge that. statisicaly wolverine (and don't gimme that it's cause he's popular crap) has delt with guys like the hulk much better than spiderman has 1 on 1. Honestly I wasn't being insulting towards you before, why the hell did you have to disrespect me?
now name calling wont get us anyware, and Ive been at KMC quite some time. I KNOW how to get the drift of a thread.
but for the most part I wasnt implying they wouldnt FEEL anything Im saying why would there being angry or sad affect their fighting ability in a positive way?
Spiderman isnt a berserker, Wolvie perhaps this would make him more forimidable but not the other way around.
Spiderman was driven to a breaking point in a fight with the Lizard((the torment arc)) the two are evenly enuf matched and becuase parker was in deep emotional stress he fought like crap, not graceful or skilled at all.
and yes statisticlly Spiderman is better
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Spiderman 10 ton's
Wolverine 800 lbs
Inellegence goes to Spidey. but most people have to come to their own conclusion on speed and overall fighting ability. and no Im not talking in the traditional sense Spiderman is one of marvels best fighters but isnt even a black belt. you get my drift there right?
anyhow I chalk my perhaps jabbing post's to repetition. I hate typeing the same argument over and over when members like who-kid? and Never as well as many more can put it more articulately
again. If i sounded or seemed insulting I apologive, I ment nothing by it
Originally posted by wrathofachilles
You're gravely mistaken if you think Wolverine just shook off Hulk's punch. Hulk knocked Wolverine out with one blow, and that blow was nowhere near Hulk's strongest, and it was given to the head rather than the neck, which would have killed him. Spider-Man pounding away at Wolverine to the point of massive contusions, blood loss, and shock to the nervous system would render Wolverine's healing factor useless. That's just the way it is. It's not really up for debate. A battle between the two of them makes a good discussion, but claiming Spider-Man can't hurt Wolverine just proves you have no actual knowledge of the characters and are simply 'Wolverine rules all' fans. And we already know wolverine88888888 is, you really don't want to join him in that regard, Srank.
some people dont even bother comparing at all, they argue spidermans superstrength (where wolverine has gone up against stronger in more than one occasion), then they begin their decent with spidermans intelligence (which in this fight has much to do with nothing)
1: Spidey doesn't win it easily. Even I don't think that. Just that he wins.
2: Hulk is stronger than Thing or Colossus yeah, but he does pull his punches sometimes. And Wolverine should not be able to heal his organs instantaneously, that's just asinine.
3. Hulk's punch was on the top of Wolvie's head, yeah it would affect a normal person's neck but Wolverine is not a normal person. It was enough force to knock Wolvie out but not to kill him. If Hulk grabbed Wolvie by the neck and snapped it, Wolvie's dead, period. His control *it's more than 40 years, his healing factor is natural, not adamantium-induced* He's not going to come back from that, he has admitted such before. If you think Spider-Man can hurt him but not kill him then you're just plain wrong and there's no point in continuing this because I've told you before how he could. I can't explain it any better. And I didn't use Spidey's intelligence, but it is a factor in a fight, no question.
Originally posted by jinzin
Statisticly spider-mans been hit by much much slower people than wolverine so statisticly wolverine shouldn't have a problem cutting him to shreds.
But then again, it doesn't matter, because I can play that game too : Spider-Man has beaten foes who are much more dangerous/faster than Wolverine, so he shouldn't have no problem at all with Logan 😉.
Statisticaly, spiderman hasn't been able to hit everyone of his enemies with his web shooter either
so statisticaly wolverine should be able to dodge that. statisicaly wolverine (and don't gimme that it's cause he's popular crap) has delt with guys like the hulk much better than spiderman has 1 on 1.
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Haha that was a good one still Wolverine has this HEaling factor thing and that wouls probably help him to deal with most of spideys attacks I am not sure how Wolverine canbe killed if in anyway but I know spidey can and even though he is faster he will get a few hits at some time and Wolverine will win, at least that is my opinion but I don't want them to fight anyway since theya are the two coolest Marvwl Characters by far (well maybe Hawk -Owl but he is like Batman that gives him a lot of plus points)
Well it's more accurate for one. Since then Wolverine's abilities are based soley on his popularity. The way he was originally written, he was a ferocious fighter with excellent reflexes, but now writers get it into their heads that he can't be stopped. Just like Singer making X2 to be all about Wolverine, I just can't stand overrated characters. I like Wolverine, but he's not on Hulk's level plain and simple.
The thing with his first appearance is that he wasn't the same character he is now; they hadn't even decided he had a healing factor yet. Wolverine had been around for 30 years now and he has been taking punches from big guns for most of it... the popularity of Wolverine only started to get out of hand in the early 90's.
Have you read the new Spider-man and Wolverine team up? Wolverine says something, then Spider-man makes a quip about how observant Wolverine is, and it's no wonder he is on so many teams. I thought it was hilarious!
Yeah see, Spider-Man is the hilarious one, not Wolvie, lol. Spidey has been popular since 1962, he's earned it! Again, I like Wolverine, I just can't stand the X-Men comics and movies revolving around him and him being matched up with top-tier characters. Let him beat the crap out of Punisher and Sabretooth, but Hulk should be fighting Thor and Juggernaut.
You are not 'we all' Fieldy.
And Srank, I have no problem with Wolverine taking some hits, but full-force punches that shatter a mountain should shatter Wolvie, adamantium and healing factor or not. I can buy that he'll survive it even, but not that he'll keep getting back up during the course of the fight. It should at least open a gaping wound in his face for the duration of an hour or so.
okay, I'm sorry venomfan, I just didn't like being jabbed at for (what seems like) no decent reason.
Umm Wolverine has beaten the Hulk who?-kid. He's also nearly killed him. I'm not playing a game man I'm just saying, Statistics really aren't something that hold much water in a comic book versus fight, and one really shouldn't put that much confidence in them. cause has all these people are saying statisicaly wolverine should be obliterated after a hit from the hulk, but well he isn't. Statistics and strength levels ect ect make the fights boring (ei early DBZ sagas) without them the fight could go either way.