Originally posted by Creshosk
Incosistant feats?You mean inconsistant feats that he does consistantly?
Feats that are thought to be inconsistant because they aren't aware of what is done regularly, because the best place to find out what is done consistantly is blatently ignored?
So he's constantly inconsisitant? I agree there...
Don't start this bs with me, EACH and EVERY thing I have a problem with, I debate it, not igonore it.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And once again the misconception that berserker Wolverine = dumber... sighBerserker rage kicks up Wolverine to the next level IN EVERY ASPECT, Pro. X said that Wolverine in a full b-rage can make complex battle strategies in the span of a second and compared it to someone preforming an Olympic gold medal routine while simultaneously beating three super computers at chess.
Keep in mind that this is guy who has fought telepath martial artists ( excluding Mr. X and Bloodshadow who have mild superhuman stats) and been to fast for them to keep up with even though they know what he is planing... this is none berseker Logan aslo.
Did I type anywhere the word 'dumber'?
No?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Not dumber but more agressive definitely, he isn't trying to hold back or fight easy on anyone, he is going all out, or else he wouldn't be beserk.Just because someone said that doesn't make it official.
Spiderman's reflexes and speed were 40x the rate of a normal human, that was mentioned too.
Pro. X was running in depth scans on Wolverine to see if he was getting back to normal... or losing it, not sure how it would help his research to make anything up. Keep in mind this is pure berserker Wolverine, who has maybe been seen twice. He was able to beat Ogun, Shingen, Lady DS and Sabretooth at once in four seconds in a Danger Room sim.
Pure berserker Wolverine would tear throw Spider-man so quickly their wouldn't be enough of a fight to fill one panel. jinzin thinks that since the matches use both characters at the best of their abilities that we use pure-berserker Wolverine. If we do then he is 100% right about Wolverine winning, but I think that pure berserker Wolverine requires a pretty extreme scenario and plot device and shouldn't be counted (unless otherwise stated by the thread starter)
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Spiderman has webbed wolverine on several occasions, wolvie fans will just say he'll cut it out with his arms and shoulders.He has already webbed a beserk wolverine...
Ok. Have one of your friends tie your wrists together. Tight. I mean bind your arms, from wrists, to elbows.
Now try to imagine actually having those claws.. Can you get to the webbing?
Originally posted by PyropsychoThey have seen to forgotten that whole thread where, he was considered ko'ed by spiderman in a full force punch in the right spot.
oh really?
Thing is wolveirne has problems with people like ogun, silver samurai, elecktra, but then he fights people like hulk/namor/ spiderman, he is made to look better ( or the character to look worse), to make the comics look good.
Which is fine, but please be rational in a debate.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No they don't, and I'm not talking about reflexes I'm talking about speed.Peak humans, are at the top of a human's physical ability, and humans CANNOT break the sound barrier.
He's saying that wolverine will be a constant blur in a fight.
Do you truly believe wolverine attacks at transonic speeds?
Like...like running speed?
Ah, that be a no...
Originally posted by BstrdManI agree with you 100%
Ok. Have one of your friends tie your wrists together. Tight. I mean bind your arms, from wrists, to elbows.
Now try to imagine actually having those claws.. Can you get to the webbing?
Wolveirne was already trapped without handcuffs.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Pro. X was running in depth scans on Wolverine to see if he was getting back to normal... or losing it, not sure how it would help his research to make anything up. Keep in mind this is pure berserker Wolverine, who has maybe been seen twice. He was able to beat Ogun, Shingen, Lady DS and Sabretooth at once in four seconds in a Danger Room sim.Pure berserker Wolverine would tear throw Spider-man so quickly their wouldn't be enough of a fight to fill one panel. jinzin thinks that since the matches use both characters at the best of their abilities that we use pure-berserker Wolverine. If we do then he is 100% right about Wolverine winning, but I think that pure berserker Wolverine requires a pretty extreme scenario and plot device and shouldn't be counted (unless otherwise stated by the thread starter)
I still disagree, it enhances him, but not THAT much as its being made out.
Spiderman has incapacitated beserk wolverine before...
But like I said, spiderman has socked it to venom who was beserk, and was said to move 40x faster than a person, is that fair?
Originally posted by Creshosk
When has Spiderman ever webbed a beserker wolverine?I've seen twice he was webbed and neither was beserk.
It was in a rescue mission with nick fury, wolverine was captured, and spiderman rescued him.
Wolverine went beserk immediately after, and wanted to kill the guys, peter webbed him, and told him not to kill the people, (wolverine was trying his damnedest to get past spiderman).
Also spiderman swung up, and grabbed a car to rescue wolverine from being ran over in that book.
It was a good issue.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
They have seen to forgotten that whole thread where, he was considered ko'ed by spiderman in a full force punch in the right spot.Thing is wolveirne has problems with people like ogun, silver samurai, elecktra, but then he fights people like hulk/namor/ spiderman, he is made to look better ( or the character to look worse), to make the comics look good.
Which is fine, but please be rational in a debate.
Ogun... they guy (while still human) beat a hundred of his rivals ninjas with out breaking a sweat or getting hit then matched blades with his rival... laughed let his stab his through the gut... laughed some more pulled out the sword and said he was beyond concepts like pain and death... then killed the guy and went about his business.
That is what is to be a beak human in the Marvel universe. But even then Wolverine has owned the Silver Samurai almost every time the meet (add he has class ten strength now I believe) and Elektra has never beaten Wolverine... she jumped Wolverine who was little more then a moving corpse at the time, while he was fighting already. Besides if you have read the last Elektra series then you'd know she makes Batman look like a kid in karate class.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Ogun... they guy (while still human) beat a hundred of his rivals ninjas with out breaking a sweat or getting hit then matched blades with his rival... laughed let his stab his through the gut... laughed some more pulled out the sword and said he was beyond concepts like pain and death... then killed the guy and went about his business.That is what is to be a beak human in the Marvel universe. But even then Wolverine has owned the Silver Samurai almost every time the meet (add he has class ten strength now I believe) and Elektra has never beaten Wolverine... she jumped Wolverine who was little more then a moving corpse at the time, while he was fighting already. Besides if you have read the last Elektra series then you'd know she makes Batman look like a kid in karate class.
I actually agree, with the fact of beserk wolverine now that I think of it.
Of couse he'd win, you are 100% correct.
But spiderman is PLAUGED by CIS, kinda like cyclops.
So its pretty fair.
If we were to have both, then spiderman would win.
Originally posted by CreshoskSo why are you posting then?
Why do I ask you questions that I can't see the answers to?because I don't expect a straight answer and therefore they are rhetorical.
Why do you answer questions with questions?
Why don't you explain anything.
Srank is the guy I''m listening to here, not you, and not jinzin.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It was in a rescue mission with nick fury, wolverine was captured, and spiderman rescued him.Wolverine went beserk immediately after, and wanted to kill the guys, peter webbed him, and told him not to kill the people, (wolverine was trying his damnedest to get past spiderman).
Also spiderman swung up, and grabbed a car to rescue wolverine from being ran over in that book.
It was a good issue.
I kind of remember that MK mini but Wolverine was captured ( and I think he had a huge beard) so I think it save to say after being tied to a post for a least a couple of days, with less then humane living conditions you'd be off your game;