Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Doubt it he isn't breaking out of the webbing, and I don't see peter tiring, he's not faster, nor stronger, etc.
wolverine has gotten out of every webbing attack. even in the latest one in the marvel team up. peter can tire long before wolverine does. plus, spiderman has very low durability,. thats why he has his spider sense
Originally posted by PointinelI'm just saying give me a 100% logical, no PIS/CIS, not trying to sell books scenario how. How about this: if you were Wolvie, how would you beat Spidey(don't forget to factor in what counters your opponent could logically make)? Then do the same for Spidey. if you were Spidey, how would you beat Wolvie(don't forget to factor in what counters your opponent could logically make)? Also dude, I'm not a Wolvie hater in the slightest. In fact, I've defended him on the "Supes is the worst character ever" thread. I've been a fan for a long time now.
ok.but are you saying logan cant do the same?
Originally posted by brainchild81
Bogus!!!!!!!!! Spidey's punched him many times and he's never broken a bone. Spidey's durable, just not as durable as Wolverine. And Spidey doesn't always retreat. You should read more of his books so you can know what you're talking about. If Spidey manages to web Wolverine up the way he did in Marvel Team Up, Wolvie's not gonna be able to get out of it without more painful self-mutilation, by that time, the fight will be over.
i saw how he got out of it and its nothing that will hurt him when he is feral. a few scratches from his claws would not even faze him. he was shot thousands of times in the weapon x novel and he was not even haulted. they put enough tranquilizers in him to kill a bull elephant and was still not KOed.
we both know that the comics can be inaccurate and inconsistant. the fact is that if a guy like spiderman punched logan directly on the head, his knuckels would break.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
yup
well, it is certainly a pleasure to meet the famous wolverine8888. i hear that people around here treat you badly, but i know you got some sense despite how you type. thanks for agreeing with me. wolverine is a killer and has almost killed the hulk. spiderman could'nt even KO the hulk.
Originally posted by brainchild81
I'm just saying give me a 100% logical, no PIS/CIS, not trying to sell books scenario how. How about this: if you were Wolvie, how would you beat Spidey(don't forget to factor in what counters your opponent could logically make)? Then do the same for Spidey. if you were Spidey, how would you beat Wolvie(don't forget to factor in what counters your opponent could logically make)? Also dude, I'm not a Wolvie hater in the slightest. In fact, I've defended him on the "Supes is the worst character ever" thread. I've been a fan for a long time now.
i know you dont dude. youve been objective through this.
but some people just cant keep logan's dic off they mouths.
Originally posted by cheldon
well, it is certainly a pleasure to meet the famous wolverine8888. i hear that people around here treat you badly, but i know you got some sense despite how you type. thanks for agreeing with me. wolverine is a killer and has almost killed the hulk. spiderman could'nt even KO the hulk.
Hmmm well, http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t366082.html
[QUOTE=5037145]Originally posted by joesha28
Hmmm well, http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t366082.html [/QUOTE
that was a discussion. spiderman is more than 10 times weaker than hulk. punches from the webhead would not faze the hulk remotely
Originally posted by brainchild81
I'm just saying give me a 100% logical, no PIS/CIS, not trying to sell books scenario how. How about this: if you were Wolvie, how would you beat Spidey(don't forget to factor in what counters your opponent could logically make)? Then do the same for Spidey. if you were Spidey, how would you beat Wolvie(don't forget to factor in what counters your opponent could logically make)? Also dude, I'm not a Wolvie hater in the slightest. In fact, I've defended him on the "Supes is the worst character ever" thread. I've been a fan for a long time now.
if i were spiderman, i would call reed richards to make a device to stop wolverine.
if i were wolverine, i would turn feral and kill spiderman in front of mary jane.
im sorry if im not using complete detail
Originally posted by cheldon
[QUOTE=5037145]Originally posted by joesha28
[B]Hmmm well, http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t366082.html [/QUOTEthat was a discussion. spiderman is more than 10 times weaker than hulk. punches from the webhead would not faze the hulk remotely [/B]
Ah Huh! Thanks for giving me that loophole. Spidey's is indeed 10x weaker than Hulk. But Wolverine is 100x weaker than Hulk. Spidey is 10x stronger than Wolverine. You get the picture now buddy.
Originally posted by cheldon"Sorry" is exactly what I was thinking when I read that🙂 What's this "in front of mary jane" stuff? You a Spidey-hater? By turn feral, you mean go into a berserker rage? or something else? How does he "turn feral"?
if i were spiderman, i would call reed richards to make a device to stop wolverine.if i were wolverine, i would turn feral and kill spiderman in front of mary jane.
im sorry if im not using complete detail
Originally posted by cheldonNo he hasn't, and he was webbed beserk, he isn't strong enough.
wolverine has gotten out of every webbing attack. even in the latest one in the marvel team up. peter can tire long before wolverine does. plus, spiderman has very low durability,. thats why he has his spider sense
Leave the pis at home, why do fanboys persist to bring it here?
cheldon thank u. also for every one eles spiderman was only able to web wolverine in marvel team up because wolverine was just standing they talken to him if they were fighting he never be able to do that. also in the latest spiderman were wolverine and him have a little fight I recall spdierman web him wolverine ripped the with out using his claws then stabb spiderman in the stomack. so much for spidermans speed he faster but not that much fast to allow him to survive a fight vs wolverine
Originally posted by cheldon
i saw how he got out of it and its nothing that will hurt him when he is feral. a few scratches from his claws would not even faze him. he was shot thousands of times in the weapon x novel and he was not even haulted. they put enough tranquilizers in him to kill a bull elephant and was still not KOed.we both know that the comics can be inaccurate and inconsistant. the fact is that if a guy like spiderman punched logan directly on the head, his knuckels would break.
Why does no one ono these forums understand any sort of basic physics whatsoever? And that means a lot, cuz I don't know jack about it.
Alright. Spiderman will NEVER break any sort of limb or hand while hitting Wolverine. And the fact that I'm actually doing this again, after I've explained it before is just appalling to me.
Okay. Science lesson, kiddies.
Wolverin weighs 300 lbs, yes? Yes.
Spiderman's strength is 15 tons, yes? Yes.
Spiderman could hit a three hundred pound steel statue of Wolverine probably a good five hundred feet. Because of wind resistance and what not.
If Spiderman hits Wolverine, Wolvie would definitely fly back slightly over 500 feet. And I'm being generous.
Okay. Now. The reason Spidey doesn't "break his hand", is because Wolverine is not braced to the Earth. It's the same physics as a punching bag.
Do you break your hand when you hit the punching bag? No, because it follows through with your hit. Your momentum is transferred into it, causing it to move backwards in the direction of your punch.
Now, if that same punching bag were braced securely to the ground and ceiling, and you punched it hard the same way that you punch it normally, you would break your hand. And don't say you won't, cuz if you're don't, you're barely tapping it, wussy (not calling you a wuss, just felt like throwing that in there).
Do you understand? Want another example?
Baseball and baseball bat. Wolverine is the ball, Spidey is the bat.
And I'll even give the baseball mad advantages as well.
Say the baseball comes in at 90 mph. A baseball weighs 150 grams. That's...0.330693393 lbs. It's circumference is 9 1/4 inches. It's diameter is approximately 3 1/2 inches. Anyway.
I think I'm doing this right. Honestly, even if I'm not, the science part is just for show.
90 mph x 150 grams =13,500 grams = 29.7624054 lbs.
That means a baseball would hit (a target or something) with close to thirty lbs per 3 1/2 inches squared.
That's a lot for something so small.
I was adding all that up to give even more force against the bat, just to be generous.
The bat, on the other hand, exerts around 6,000-7,000 lbs of pressure onto the incoming 90 mph ball. What happens then? The ball goes flying.
Anyway, that was all rather pointless honestly. My original example was just that the baseball flies when it gets hit, even with a lot of force behind it. The bat doesn't break hitting it, because it is much stronger, able to send the ball out of the park.
Now, if the ball were say...encased in a giant block cement, only allowing for one side to be exposed to be hit by the bat. If the bat hits it, then yes, it would do damage to the bat. Because the ball is braced down to everything around it.
So yea. Spiderman is the bat of the puncher of the bag. Wolverine is the ball or the bag. Either way, it proves my point
Spiderman will NEVER break his hand hitting Wolverine. Only send it sailing through the air.
I have the strangest feeling that no one will read this because it is so long.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
cheldon thank u. also for every one eles spiderman was only able to web wolverine in marvel team up because wolverine was just standing they talken to him if they were fighting he never be able to do that. also in the latest spiderman were wolverine and him have a little fight I recall spdierman web him wolverine ripped the with out using his claws then stabb spiderman in the stomack. so much for spidermans speed he faster but not that much fast to allow him to survive a fight vs wolverine
I was totally going to just counter every point you made right here, rather effortlessly if I might add, but I think I'll leave it to someone who can do it even better than me.
Actually, I'll do a little bit. That "Training session" you speak of.
Hm...that's enough really. It was a training session. Spiderman didn't avoid the attack on purpose. You really think he would just stand there and let someone 15x slower than him gut him if he thought it was for real? TRAINING SESSION. Spiderman ignored his Spidersense, thinking Wolverine was going to punch him without claws or something along those lines.
And now I'll let someone else take over.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
cheldon thank u. also for every one eles spiderman was only able to web wolverine in marvel team up because wolverine was just standing they talken to him if they were fighting he never be able to do that. also in the latest spiderman were wolverine and him have a little fight I recall spdierman web him wolverine ripped the with out using his claws then stabb spiderman in the stomack. so much for spidermans speed he faster but not that much fast to allow him to survive a fight vs wolverine
Stab spider-man in the stomach, you mean after he he cut through the webbing? the webbing which he doesn't have enough strength to cut cos not even Rogue cut get out of it? He may have the claws but he cant cut the web.........bad comic example
Spider-man wins.