Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by The MISTER1,019 pages

Originally posted by Creshosk
Funny how you omit such a large portion of the pics just to get your point across and then don't post the part you want us to see large enough to veiw them.
Are you acusing me of censoring? Why would I have to do that? Uhhhh... That WAS the end of the fight and the beginning of the page it was on. The rest was dialouge and you can't prove me wrong cause I'm not lying. Black cat was wounded in her fight with sabertooth and would have been killed by him if she had not been carrying some sort of tool in her boot. She became enraged when he bit her leg.

Damn Cresh, you should know me better than that! 😮‍💨

FUNNY how you didn't respond to the obvious flaws in the idea that Wolverine can beat Spider-man, but all it takes to severely handicap him is some webbing to the face. It was enough to beat Sabertooth.

Nothings changed Wolverine's biggest disadvantage is lacking the sufficient strength to handle the webbing. I know that's the case according to their current bios. And heres a whole page for you...

What the hell, heres another! 😆

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again u have yet to show the title or number . also again wolverine is able to cut throu the webs. if u read spdierman and wolverines first fight spiderman said he was not holding back. wolverine holds back he has never tried to kill spiderman. also again u show that and again look at this

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look another one see

wolveriens still smiling at full on hits form spdierman who he is allowing to hit him

yes and spiders have mutations since that old comic... he can hit harder... and from the looks of that comic... Wolvie is on the wayout... all he needs is a good web blast... and his done..

I stop coming here for a couple months and come back to the same old thread (PLEASE LET IT DIE DAMN IT LET IT DIE).PS.stell say Spider-man wins.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Sabertooth has some bad memories about Spider-mans webbing....Is Sabertooth Wolverines inferior?

not a fair assessment... sabretooth didn't even have a healing factor bakc then.. the pic you posted is proof to that 🙄

not to mention he practically beat himself...

at that point, yes sabretooth was VERY MUCH so wolverine's inferior... it wasn't until a few months later, after he became one of the marauders, that he started his ridiculous badass traits...

Originally posted by The MISTER
Damn Cresh, you should know me better than that! 😮‍💨
Seeing as how you are posting very much plot deviced pictures and then this is how I should know you?

You keep posting fights to prove yourself tbut those instantces were very much heavily influenced by plot devices, the one being a flase memory and the Saber tooth ones being as he was without a healing factor at the time. . yes you very much were twisting the truth.

Not very objective of you to do.

* Logan can never ever beat Spidey, that's for sure...

Originally posted by Creshosk
Seeing as how you are posting very much plot deviced pictures and then this is how I should know you?

You keep posting fights to prove yourself tbut those instantces were very much heavily influenced by plot devices, the one being a flase memory and the Saber tooth ones being as he was without a healing factor at the time. . yes you very much were twisting the truth.

Not very objective of you to do.


Besides that,Logan humiliated Black Cat one panel in Erik larsen run.

Originally posted by wolverine8888
wolveriens still smiling at full on hits form spdierman who he is allowing to hit him

Wolverine wasn't letting him hit him. he never said anything of the sort.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Seeing as how you are posting very much plot deviced pictures and then this is how I should know you?

You keep posting fights to prove yourself tbut those instantces were very much heavily influenced by plot devices, the one being a flase memory and the Saber tooth ones being as he was without a healing factor at the time. . yes you very much were twisting the truth.

Not very objective of you to do.

Hey, I'll admit that I didn't know that Sabretooths healing factor wasn't a mutant power that he has always had and since I do know you to bend the truth from time to time then you would have to back that up with something solid.

Wolverine is a flip flopping character who gets whatever power level is neccesary and thrives on fan power that makes the things that are obviously exxagerated allowable as examples.

Your boy Wolverine is shown taking a punch from Namor and keeping his feet planted. Later he's shown negating Spider-mans webbing. But the whole time that he's doing these thing his makers maintain that he is not strong enough to do either.

You must be in extreme denial about the effectiveness of the webbing on non powerhouse characters and Spider-mans skill with the weapon.

Last but not least Wolverine may be skilled but If Spider-man puts him in any hold that incapacitates an opponents movement, Wolverine is not strong enough to do anything at all about it. How much leverage does he need when he can bench 10 tons?

And the comics are filled with plot devices. I guess the only good ones are the ones that support your charcters....

Like I've said before if we go by the characters bios that have been available, maintained, and updated for years, Wolverine is sub-par to Spider-man in every physical category, including dexterity and speed. Add a ranged weapon AND a non physical advantage, the ability to cling to any surface.....How is Wolverine pulling off his famous stab? I know you didn't forget about the Spider-sense that is another NON PHYSICAL advantage on Wolverines physical inferiority.

So this is what we've got

Wolverine: inferior to Spider-man in every physical way including agility and reaction speed. Not including bone durabilty.

Wolverine: has no ranged weapon and can rely only on physical attack.

Wolverine:Has no powers that are not physical

Wolverine: can heal from serious damage very quickly and has claws that can cut through anything.

Wolverine holds one advantage. He can recover from serious damage very quickly.

How can his claws be an advantage when his opponent has the option of engaging in ranged combat, and is also superior in speed. Add in a sixth sense to warn of the inferior attacks ( inferiority being the result of being over ten times weaker than his opponent, a staggering difference) and the claws are not a formidable force.

Spider-man: Superior in every physical way including muscle durabilty And excluding bone durability.

Spider-man: Has a ranged weapon that is multifaceted and has mastered its use. He also has Superhuman aim ( Amazing fantasy #1). The webbing is not easily broken by Spider-man himself.

Spider-man: Has the abilty to adhere to any surface and uses this ability quite often to create an advantage.

Spider-man: has a non physical advantage in the form of an EXTRA SENSE that reacts to danger. A sixth sense completely dedicated to avoiding danger.

So wolverine has one advantage and it is defensive.

Spider-man has all the physical advantages there are.
He holds the ranged weapon advantage.
He has a nonphysical defensive advantage
He has the offensive and defensive advantage of being able to stick to walls.

In total he holds four advantages on Wolverine. 2 are offensive, and 2 are defensive. (More than that really but I counted all the physical advantages as one).

4>1

But I expect some people to disagree with this simple math. Especially Wolverine88888888 who pretends to be oblivious as an excuse to make nonsensical statements as if they were true.

I would not knowingly twist the truth to acheive some semblance of a victory Cresh... You SHOULD know me better than that.

And speaking of twisting the truth, Are you saying that Wolverine got shot up and left for dead because he thought he was someone besides Wolverine? Or that he never got shot up at all?

If this post is ignored then I know that I'm right. 😮‍💨

or that whomever is ignoring it is either lazy or sick of refuting the same points over and over again...

Creed's healing isn't a mutant ability? When did this happen?

Originally posted by jinzin
or that whomever is ignoring it is either lazy or sick of refuting the same points over and over again...

You gotta admitt stat wise he puts up a good argument.

we've already been over stats again and again... anything about stats that have been brought up have already been discussed refuted, discussed again.. refuted again and so on and so forth since I joined in on this thread...

it's funny though... when we tried to dispute that statisically, one would have to look at all of the stats and not simply focus on the most basic/obvious ones.. spiderman statistically speaking wouldn't look near as impressive..AND THEN marvel put out a power level chart that included a more comprehensive stat list and wolverine actually edged out spiderman... how THOSE STATS got ignored... hmmm

Originally posted by jinzin
we've already been over stats again and again... anything about stats that have been brought up have already been discussed refuted, discussed again.. refuted again and so on and so forth since I joined in on this thread...

it's funny though... when we tried to dispute that statisically, one would have to look at all of the stats and not simply focus on the most basic/obvious ones.. spiderman statistically speaking wouldn't look near as impressive..AND THEN marvel put out a power level chart that included a more comprehensive stat list and wolverine actually edged out spiderman... how THOSE STATS got ignored... hmmm

Fair enought but im not reading 300 pages to catch up, but iv never liked that power chart, for starters it goes up to 7, what kind of chart stops at 7 make it go up to 10. (well ok thats the only thing that realy bugs me about that chart)