Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

No this is amusing simply because someone will say Wolverine has dodged bullets before, Wolverine has feats greater then stats blah blah but if someone calls out the writing on it people downplay it............

Fine throw it off mostly because you couldn't crucify wolverine period the way he is built and described. If thats the case then there are many other PIS comics that take Wolverine far beyond his "marvel" abilities from stats and I mean FAR beyond.

I care less whether wolverine would win other then how ppl are describing victories for him.

Originally posted by soleran30
No this is amusing simply because someone will say Wolverine has dodged bullets before, Wolverine has feats greater then stats blah blah but if someone calls out the writing on it people downplay it............

So spiderman is allowed to have greater feats but not wolverine?

And you STILL haven't called it out, you're STILL grasping at straws, and now you're trying to cover your ass.

Originally posted by soleran30
Fine throw it off mostly because you couldn't crucify wolverine period

Originally posted by soleran30
the way he is built and described. If thats the case then there are many other PIS comics that take Wolverine far beyond his "marvel" abilities from stats and I mean FAR beyond.

Originally posted by soleran30
I care less whether wolverine would win other then how ppl are describing victories for him.

Yeah, that's valid logic. 🙄

Or you know not. . . since. . it's not. . .

Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
That's because babies have stem cells, which are unused cells that can be molded to reform anything. Your liver is the only part of your adult body that grows back(minus hair, toenails, etc. of course) I believe.

Wolverines healing ability is an enhanced version of the human bodies natural healing of wounds.

As for the claws, they shift from his forearm to the back of his hand. They move to the top of his hand when fully extended. Ever notice he always has his arms beside him(or in the movie and show, threw his arms to his side?) before extending his claw? Because the bone goes to the back of his hand, and thus his arm must be straight.

jesus, could the spidey-fan using this as some sort of argument please stop it? I'm a huge Spidey fan, and this is just starting to get annoying.

Human body so have some stem cells (though not all over the body like babys) and all cells contain the entire human human genome, so it's very beliveable that this can be fromed into a rengative power. I can't see how it could possibly work with no O.

My arguement is, after an hour of not breathing, Wolverine would be dead. His healing factor offers him NO protection from not being able to breathe.

Yes debate about comics in a world where artists rule supreme and writers decide physics, a&p whatever it just funny.......but by all means since I never brought up spiderman in discussion the last couple pages I have no idea where you are grabbing at that I was talking about Wolverine.....wow ✅

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Human body so have some stem cells (though not all over the body like babys) and all cells contain the entire human human genome, so it's very beliveable that this can be fromed into a rengative power. I can't see how it could possibly work with no O.

My arguement is, after an hour of not breathing, Wolverine would be dead. His healing factor offers him NO protection from not being able to breathe.

Can you tell me exactly how HIS works?

Originally posted by soleran30
Yes debate about comics in a world where artists rule supreme and writers decide physics, a&p whatever it just funny.......but by all means since I never brought up spiderman in discussion the last couple pages I have no idea where you are grabbing at that I was talking about Wolverine.....wow ✅

Originally posted by Creshosk
And yet you can't back that claim up, the best you bring is how normal human's work. If his was on a far more advanced level wouldn't that mean iit still works independantly from the way the average human's works?

Can you tell me exactly how HIS works?

I can tell you unless he dosen't heal by using his supreme powers to open up a portal to the mojoworld which heals his wounds useing mojo power, they won't work.

If his biological reactions stop, his healing does as well, since it IS a biolgical reaction, again unless he gets it from anoether dimention or prehaps the power cosmic?

Originally posted by Creshosk
That whole implication that Jinzin called you an idiot for owning all of maximum carnage. 😉

You know, calling them facts or even typing it in all caps does not ADD to your credibility, and there is no need to put emphesis on them either as that ALSO doesn't add credibility.

Scientifically, true.

"and abilities."

🙄 Well Spiderman is just your average human with "abilities". Gee doesn't that mean that he's NOT average?

And are you including the healing factor as part of the durability?

He doesn't need to be overall better. 😕

unproven, and on a side note how much is too much for him? That's not really saying anything.

Not only not proven, completely false as its conteracted by the times they ARE damaged, like in his fights with hulk, or when X-23 stabbed him in the chest. . or when he's been turned into a seive. . or. . .

Yeah you're going off of "stats" whaich as has been shown are largely unreliable as far as the characters go. Spiderman for example.

False. As disproven byhis fights with hulk, or when he runs through machine gun fire or hell even when he popes his stupid claws out.

Why? He doesn't have anything to do with the cahracter anymore. And if I'm not mistaken since he didn't create the haracter he never really did either.

The whole of the marvel world?

No shit, but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. . .except for some of the top characters like TOAA . . .

Yeah I go off stats that is where it counts instead of looking at a few pictures that show wolverine getting nuked to his skeleton and then coming back fully regenerated a few pages later is crap. I actually do a search as to their proven abilities and for wolverine death is an option.
If you know you could heal fast would you not walk through bullets to?
I wont deny it spiderman sometimes does things that he shouldnt he has rage and anger to this helps but walking through bullets seriously I have comics where wolverine is in a hospital bed healing but yet he is walking through bullets. so when it is all said and done you can admit that wolverine can die and his healing is blown way out of proportiion.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
I can tell you unless he dosen't heal by using his supreme powers to open up a portal to the mojoworld which heals his wounds useing mojo power, they won't work.

If his biological reactions stop, his healing does as well, since it IS a biolgical reaction, again unless he gets it from anoether dimention or prehaps the power cosmic?

Try again. This time try it without the sarcasm, and without the desire to outright disprove something. Explain it, with evidence provided.

Wolverine's power is powered by bio-power. His motabolsim, beacuse there is no other source we have ever even seen hinted at for his powers, like Spiderman.

Beacuse of this, when he stoped breathing, and most, if not all of his biological functions stop, regardless of his healing factor, since it can no longer draw power from anything.

Originally posted by python99
Yeah I go off stats that is where it counts instead of looking at a few pictures that show wolverine getting nuked to his skeleton and then coming back fully regenerated a few pages later is crap.

Originally posted by python99
[BI actually do a search as to their proven abilities and for wolverine death is an option.[/b]

Originally posted by python99
[BIf you know you could heal fast would you not walk through bullets to?[/b]

Originally posted by python99
[BI wont deny it spiderman sometimes does things that he shouldnt [/b]

Originally posted by python99
[Bhe has rage and anger to this helps but walking through bullets seriously I have comics where wolverine is in a hospital bed healing but yet he is walking through bullets.[/b]/[quote] Taken out of context AND now being used selectively. . . your example is null and void. And you further prove your bias by ampliphying your double standard. You use stats where the feats are greater and use comic feats where the stats are higher.

[QUOTE=5431842]Originally posted by python99
[Bso when it is all said and done you can admit that wolverine can die and his healing is blown way out of proportiion. [/B]

Everyone seems to use Wolverine in the healing factor being taxed out scenerio. . . rather than at full health.

Why is this?

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Wolverine's power is powered by bio-power. His motabolsim, beacuse there is no other source we have ever even seen hinted at for his powers, like Spiderman.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Beacuse of this, when he stoped breathing, and most, if not all of his biological functions stop, regardless of his healing factor, since it can no longer draw power from anything.

Wanna try a third time?

I'm sorry. I didn't know I was not allowed to rule out improbable senerios that have no evidence to suport them.

I guess the mojoverse answer is right, since there's not evidnce to deny it.

Also, what evidnce am I discarding. Did the comic SAY he coulden't breath? I feel you are exagerateing the situation.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
I'm sorry. I didn't know I was not allowed to rule out improbable senerios that have no evidence to suport them.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
I guess the mojoverse answer is right, since there's not evidnce to deny it.

Also, what evidnce am I discarding. Did the comic SAY he coulden't breath? I feel you are exagerateing the situation.

Also keep in mind the whole starvation/dehydration issue so you don't give me a trumped up number with an ulterior motive. . .

I'm still waiting for you to say where it SAID he could not breath.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
I'm still waiting for you to say where it SAID he could not breath.

Prove where it said he could. 🙂

Or you coulsd prove where it said that he enjoyed it, cause I think he didn't. Though it doesn't state that either way either.

Beacuse people normaly beathe. I don't see why he would be any diffrent.

You will now say "Beacuse he was on the cross" but that's not a reason. Tell me what part of it rendered him unable to breathe.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Strawmanning. Do you allow Spiderman to exceed his stats?

Proven abilities? How do you PROVE the ability if you discard all comic evidence?

That's something that I say, when people say Wolverine can't dodge bullets. . .

Thank you for proving your bias towards spiderman. Spiderman you'll allow the comic evidence, Wolverine? Not a chance in hell. . . Real objective there.

Oh yes he can die, if his healing factor which is actually underrated, is taxed out. as he nearly did in the cross scenerio.

Everyone seems to use Wolverine in the healing factor being taxed out scenerio. . . rather than at full health.

Why is this?

Ok so stats not related to comics have nothing to do with it and the comic is everything right? I could care less if spiderman exeeds his stats
at least you have something to cheer about because wolverine is exeeding his stats. He goes toe to toe with the hulk but is downed by a samurai who is maybe 2 inches taller than he is come on be serious.
I am sure that the abilities of some of our beloved heroes were written down before they had comics made for them ie wolverine and spiderman
so stats do matter. so now using comic evidence wolverine hits spiderman spidey hits wolverine usuing this how can you say who wins.
Do you use the comics where the abilities vary depending on the situation or do you use the movies or the tv. I would say stats give enough of an idea as to what one can or cant do.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Beacuse people normaly beathe.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
I don't see why he would be any diffrent.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
You will now say "Beacuse he was on the cross" but that's not a reason. Tell me what part of it rendered him unable to breathe.

Cause so far I have tests that lasted an hour. (big whoop, I can stand on my feet for more than an hour and not get tired. Wolverine was however unconcious. Unless you'd like to prove how he could hold himself up while unconcious as well.)

And padded numbers that don't fit other biological data and are mostl likely padded with ulterior motives.

Originally posted by python99
Ok so stats not related to comics have nothing to do with it and the comic is everything right?

Originally posted by python99
I could care less if spiderman exeeds his stats

Originally posted by python99
I wont deny it spiderman sometimes does things that he shouldnt

Originally posted by python99
at least you have something to cheer about because wolverine is exeeding his stats.

Originally posted by python99
He goes toe to toe with the hulk but is downed by a samurai who is maybe 2 inches taller than he is come on be serious.

Originally posted by python99
I am sure that the abilities of some of our beloved heroes were written down before they had comics made for them ie wolverine and spiderman

Originally posted by python99
so stats do matter.

Originally posted by python99
so now using comic evidence wolverine hits spiderman spidey hits wolverine usuing this how can you say who wins.

Originally posted by python99
Do you use the comics where the abilities vary depending on the situation or do you use the movies or the tv.

Originally posted by python99
I would say stats give enough of an idea as to what one can or cant do.

Right. . how unbiased of you. 🙄