Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Alright, something needs to be cleared up right now.

In terms of PURE durability (I'm talking ability to withstand attacks BY JUST using the skin, basically ability to withstand piercing), Spiderman is more durable. Now before you all start pissing your pants, Wolverine clearly has the definite edge in regenerative abilities.

If you took a knife to both Spidey and Wolverine (let's say...their stomachs), it would be harder and not as smooth to stab Spidey because of his body's natural durability. It would go through Wolverine like it would any normal, healthy human. Only thing is, he'd just regenerate from it in several seconds.

Now that that is out of the way...

If you compare Spiderman from his own comics and Wolverine from his own comics (basically, not cross-overs), then Spiderman's speed/strength/reflexes/agility/resourcefulness puts Wolverine's to shame. No, there is no "Wolverine's not far away from Spiderman's agility/speed/etc.". None of that crap. A true Spiderman kicks true Wolverine's ass in all of those aspects. Wolverine has him beat in fighting ability and regenerative ability, as well as a strong durability because of his adamantium skeleton (can still be killed though). That's...pretty much it. Better fighting skills mean nothing against someone who can literally dodge each and every blow with the utmost of ease.

Spiderman wins this fight 8/10. I only give Wolvie 2 as a representation of what really would happen in a cross-over comic book, because the fans would never stand for Wolverine being beaten.

I'm gonna cosign to this. Metalman has basically put it out flat. Crossovers are hardly any good because the abilities of one character tend to get sacrificied for the sake of another's mythos. Like Superman vs Venom.

Originally posted by willRules
Or better yet, spidey simply punches Logan in the stomach. In real world physics a ten to fifteen ton punch would spray your intestines out your back.

In the real world you don't get powers from a radio active spider, you die (or more accurately the spider dies before it can bite anything). Real world physics mean nothing in comic books.

In comic book physics, Wolverine would be knocked out.

In comic book physics Wolverine can take a punch form the Hulk

So can Spider-Man. Here's the thing though. Spider-Man took a hit from Hulk when he was in a mindless rage due to a gamma virus. He also took a shockwave too. THAT is something Wolverine can't boast about.

589 pages and the debate is still going strong 🙂

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
So can Spider-Man. Here's the thing though. Spider-Man took a hit from Hulk when he was in a mindless rage due to a gamma virus. He also took a shockwave too. THAT is something Wolverine can't boast about.

Except Wolverine has taken enough hits for it not to be PIS.

Doubtfull. He's got a case of bad writer like nobody's business. Also, Wolverine has never beaten Hulk.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
So can Spider-Man. Here's the thing though. Spider-Man took a hit from Hulk when he was in a mindless rage due to a gamma virus. He also took a shockwave too. THAT is something Wolverine can't boast about.

Yes, but according to your logic, the so-called "comic book physics" would've ment that both Wolverine and Spider-man would've been turned into mush. If Wolverine can take a punch from the Hulk, then why in the hell would Wolverine be knocked out from a punch that Spider-man gave him when he has taken MUCH harder hits in the past? Care to elaborate?

Well, we already covered the nut shot.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Doubtfull. He's got a case of bad writer like nobody's business. Also, Wolverine has never beaten Hulk.

I never said Wolverine has beat the Hulk. Wolverine hasn't and he shouldnt but the fact is that Wolverine hangs with the Hulk all the time and most of their fights don't even have a winnner. Wolverine takes hits form high level bricks and keeps on going it's part of his character and he has done it way to many times to count.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Well, we already covered the nut shot.

That's irrelavent to what I'm asking you.

Not really. If a bat from a peak human to the nuts can incapacitate Wolverine, then a punch from a person who can put 15 tons behind his fist straight to Wolverine's groin is going to give him a heirnia. Also, Most of Hulk's punches to Wolverine have hit him in the chest, where he has a set of Adimantium laced ribs to absorb the impact.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Not really. If a bat from a peak human to the nuts can incapacitate Wolverine, then a punch from a person who can put 15 tons behind his fist straight to Wolverine's groin is going to give him a heirnia. Also, Most of Hulk's punches to Wolverine have hit him in the chest, where he has a set of Adimantium laced ribs to absorb the impact.

Who said Spider-man was going for the groin? He's definitely not as cheap as Frank is. And besides, you said earlier that in "comics book physics," a shot to Wolvie's stomach from Spider-man would knock him out. You made absolutely no reference to his groin area. I'm just curious as to how your "comic book physics" say that Wolverine would get knocked out from a shot in the stomach from Spider-man when Wolvie has taken considerably more damage than that?

I don't consider it cheap. There are four areas of the body that you can get a clean hit on an adamantium laced skeleton that could incapacitate someone. Here, let me show you:

The first two noticable ones are the kidneys and the stomach. Another good spot would be the throat. Then, of course, there's the groin. Although most people would consider it cheap, in Castle's case, he didn't have too many options.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Not really. If a bat from a peak human to the nuts can incapacitate Wolverine, then a punch from a person who can put 15 tons behind his fist straight to Wolverine's groin is going to give him a heirnia. Also, Most of Hulk's punches to Wolverine have hit him in the chest, where he has a set of Adimantium laced ribs to absorb the impact.

When you can lift a couple thousand tons it doesn't matter where you hit someone. Hell, you don't even need to them; the force from Hulks swings would be like a bomb blast. No matter where the Hulk hits Wolverine it will damage is entire body (ruptured brain ext) The narative in a Wolverine vs Hulk fight (there are scans of it on here somewhere) even say that the Hulks punches turn Wolverine's insides to mush but that he was healing the damage pretty much as fast as he was taking it. The problem is that marvels standard comic lines are pretty tame in the blood and gore area so we have to use our imagination to see what's really going on... or read something from the Marvel MAX line.

Frank down Logan with a nut shot is PIS.

Please observe above post.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I never said Wolverine has beat the Hulk. Wolverine hasn't and he shouldnt but the fact is that Wolverine hangs with the Hulk all the time and most of their fights don't even have a winnner. Wolverine takes hits form high level bricks and keeps on going it's part of his character and he has done it way to many times to count.

Well by that logic then Wolverine should be knocked out by Hulk's punches and should be knocked out by spidey's. He shouldn't ever be able to lay a finger on peter. He shouldn't be able to heal from nukes. 🙂

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
I don't consider it cheap. There are four areas of the body that you can get a clean hit on an adamantium laced skeleton that could incapacitate someone. Here, let me show you:

The first two noticable ones are the kidneys and the stomach. Another good spot would be the throat. Then, of course, there's the groin. Although most people would consider it cheap, in Castle's case, he didn't have too many options.

Why don't you observe the rest of what I wrote when I edited my post.

Originally posted by willRules
Well by that logic then Wolverine [B]should be knocked out by Hulk's punches and should be knocked out by spidey's. He shouldn't ever be able to lay a finger on peter. He shouldn't be able to heal from nukes. 🙂 [/B]

What logic... 😕