Originally posted by Soleran
Not to mention with Class 15 strength one love tap from Spiderman should send Logan back far enough to give Spiderman enough room to breathe and reconnect with webs.
again.. spiderman SHOULD blah blah blah...
spiderman's going to have a hard enough time avoiding being gutted if he's that close "i can't give him a second he'll kill me" he's not exactly gonna be able to send logan flying at a whim....
Originally posted by jinzin
again.. spiderman SHOULD blah blah blah...spiderman's going to have a hard enough time avoiding being gutted if he's that close "i can't give him a second he'll kill me" he's not exactly gonna be able to send logan flying at a whim....
lol more of the blah blah piece
http://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingspiderman526094hn.jpg
Ok so he just does one of these numbers then throws him..........
or one of these numbers and traps him
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6572/muchwebbing3un.gif
Originally posted by Soleran
lol more of the blah blah piecehttp://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingspiderman526094hn.jpg
Ok so he just does one of these numbers then throws him..........
or one of these numbers and traps him
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6572/muchwebbing3un.gif
Anythinig to avoid the direct comparison's like the plague I guess..
okay well for starters Morlun as far as I'm aware has no heightened senses,
second he has no blades to cut away from the webbs
third his momentum was already fully heading in one direction and spiderman used that against him.
fourth this won't be an arial battle.
as for the next feet... notice how the webs attached to all sorts of vertical objects in the immediate vecinity.. yeah... NOT A CITY FIGHT.. damn I don't know how many friggin times it has to be said.... arena location.... jeesh...
arena's have walls why do I have to absolutely paint every picture for you...................no thats right cuz you expect that its just going to be an in your grill fight or at least you hope that so Wolverine has a chance.
And I already addressed your arena discussion. I believe wolverine8888 asked to have the "arena" change to a colisium type area what 75 pages ago to give Wolverine a chance.
So for my discussion I am saying in a city fight buildings and cars and a setting that is a bit more common then 2 people in a colisium. Spiderman pulls significantly higher wins in the city.
Finally don't be so slow................do you want me to post any of the numerous arena's sports teams play in................they have high walls, stadiums etc and they are arena's. In these type arenas Spiderman still pulls more wins.
Originally posted by jinzinYes he will. He was avoiding Wolvie just fine(Wolvie didn't get ANY offense in until Spidey let him) when he said that way back then and still hitting him. & this was a Spidey who was scared as hell and felt like he was moving in slo-mo and fighting stupid. Even with all that going for him, Wolvie was still to slow to hit Spidey without Spidey's approval. What are you talking about?
again.. spiderman SHOULD blah blah blah...spiderman's going to have a hard enough time avoiding being gutted if he's that close "i can't give him a second he'll kill me" he's not exactly gonna be able to send logan flying at a whim....
Originally posted by Soleran
arena's have walls why do I have to absolutely paint every picture for you...................no thats right cuz you expect that its just going to be an in your grill fight or at least you hope that so Wolverine has a chance.And I already addressed your arena discussion. I believe wolverine8888 asked to have the "arena" change to a colisium type area what 75 pages ago to give Wolverine a chance.
So for my discussion I am saying in a city fight buildings and cars and a setting that is a bit more common then 2 people in a colisium. Spiderman pulls significantly higher wins in the city.
Finally don't be so slow................do you want me to post any of the numerous arena's sports teams play in................they have high walls, stadiums etc and they are arena's. In these type arenas Spiderman still pulls more wins.
don't be slow? how about youdon't be silly? arena's don't have NEAR the amount of plot devices to latch onto that a city street does plain and simple.... not even close.. the area's a LOT wider.. this isn't a friggin cage match... pffft....
Wolverine pulls significantly higher wins in the woods... why aren't they fighting there?
Originally posted by brainchild81
Yes he will. He was avoiding Wolvie just fine(Wolvie didn't get ANY offense in until Spidey let him) when he said that way back then and still hitting him. & this was a Spidey who was scared as hell and felt like he was moving in slo-mo and fighting stupid. Even with all that going for him, Wolvie was still to slow to hit Spidey without Spidey's approval. What are you talking about?
no that was spiderman focusing like crazy onto his spidersense so he didn't get hit from a wolverine holding back in the first place who in turn LET spiderman hit him first... pfffft...
Originally posted by jinzin
don't be slow? how about youdon't be silly? arena's don't have NEAR the amount of plot devices to latch onto that a city street does plain and simple.... not even close.. the area's a LOT wider.. this isn't a friggin cage match... pffft....Wolverine pulls significantly higher wins in the woods... why aren't they fighting there?
Why aren't they thats a good question! I think the Wolverine Spiderman fight might be better if thats how it was kinda handled.
Woods, City, NA training room cuz neither of them is going to win all the time and the different envirmonts would make it fun!🙂
LOL man every arena I have been to wouldn't even be a problem for spiderman to move around, different levels in the seating, some are closed in, obviously some are larger like football arena over an ice rink/arena but still MORE then enough area for Spiderman over Wolverine.
Spiderman has tons more room for mobility over Wolverine.......
Originally posted by Soleran
Why aren't they thats a good question! I think the Wolverine Spiderman fight might be better if thats how it was kinda handled.Woods, City, NA training room cuz neither of them is going to win all the time and the different envirmonts would make it fun!🙂
LOL man every arena I have been to wouldn't even be a problem for spiderman to move around, different levels in the seating, some are closed in, obviously some are larger like football arena over an ice rink/arena but still MORE then enough area for Spiderman over Wolverine.
Spiderman has tons more room for mobility over Wolverine.......
I'm not arguing room for mobility.. I'm arguing against vertical structures that spiderman would use to web wolverine TO why is that so hard to understand???? 🙁
Originally posted by Soleranlol... oh....
Because my name is Soleran and if you spell that backwards it spells narrowmindedlongwindedwriterofarenas.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
What about knocking him to the ground and webbing him to it? he doesn't need buildings.😛
that's actually plausible... and half the reason that spiderman gets any victories in my book...
Originally posted by jinzinYou are mistaken. Wolvie never let Spidey do anything. I know what part you're talking of, but Spidey was hitting him even before then see? In the next panel Wolvie's swinging from the ground. Wolvie didn't hold back until he sheathed the claws. 😆 "pfffft" always makes me laugh a little. You been to the Bats Vs Cap thread?
no that was spiderman focusing like crazy onto his spidersense so he didn't get hit from a wolverine holding back in the first place who in turn LET spiderman hit him first... pfffft...
Originally posted by brainchild81
You are mistaken. Wolvie never let Spidey do anything. I know what part you're talking of, but Spidey was hitting him even before then see? In the next panel Wolvie's swinging from the ground. Wolvie didn't hold back until he sheathed the claws. 😆 "pfffft" always makes me laugh a little. You been to the Bats Vs Cap thread?
pffft.. no I haven't... lol
I'm not mistaken though... I do remember of course spiderman's one hit that he landed before wolverine started letting him land blows... I however didn't say spiderman didn't hit wolverine until wolverine let him... I said wolverine was the one who started the free hit craze and he did.... Wolverine didn't want to fight peter from the start..
look wolverine can hit a guy without killing him if he wants to...
with spiderman you pretty much have to nail/aim center mass or you're not hitting anything.. logan holding back would dictate that he aim away from center mass and the fatal blows to organs.. more aiming to the side/obliques... not aiming at center mass + holding back anyways = missing spiderman... wolverine's hit him everyother time with the exception secret wars which was more of the same as above... And you're still ignoring the fact that spiderman ran out of options for an alternative as well as being irrational that logan would just suddenly and inexplicably DECIDE to start holding back after being pumbled in the face...
Originally posted by jinzinIt's pure h2h. As a M.A. you'd love that kinda stuff🙂
pffft.. no I haven't... lol
Originally posted by jinzinThere still isn't proof that Wolvie let Spidey hit him. I think it's more of a misinterpretation of what Wolvie said that has you thinking that.
I'm not mistaken though... I do remember of course spiderman's one hit that he landed before wolverine started letting him land blows... I however didn't say spiderman didn't hit wolverine until wolverine let him... I said wolverine was the one who started the free hit craze and he did.... Wolverine didn't want to fight peter from the start..
Originally posted by jinzinThe part w/the claws whizzing past Spidey's face kind of kills that though. He wasn't aiming @ the side/obliques. When Spidey stopped & let Wolvie tackle him, he knew that Spidey was no killer and thus didn't feel a need to kill Spidey. Spidey only thought he'd run out of alternatives because he was fighting "slow & STUPID". Otherwise he wouldn't have wasted time punching Logan in his unbreakable noggin. He would have used webbing and nutshots. He would box the ears like he did the Hulk. He would have used bodyshots that took organs out over and over. It's like an old boxing expression "Kill the body and the head will fall"
look wolverine can hit a guy without killing him if he wants to...
with spiderman you pretty much have to nail/aim center mass or you're not hitting anything.. logan holding back would dictate that he aim away from center mass and the fatal blows to organs.. more aiming to the side/obliques... not aiming at center mass + holding back anyways = missing spiderman... wolverine's hit him everyother time with the exception secret wars which was more of the same as above... And you're still ignoring the fact that spiderman ran out of options for an alternative as well as being irrational that logan would just suddenly and inexplicably DECIDE to start holding back after being pumbled in the face...
