Originally posted by Sparkz
Man you guys are like 3 week old chinese food, you just can't keep you down....granted at least capt it up has actuly posted some decent scans this time instead of saying that something happend...but I don't see what they are there to proove none of it prooves that wolverine can hit spider-man. Granted he can hit spider-man but only when outsmarting spider-man due to fighting techniques NOT pure speed. Especialy since petey had his powers amped, and don't say it dosen't matter because wolverine had an upgrade to his healing factor, an upgrade to a healing factor dosen't make you faster, it gives you better healing. Also note that spider-man's punches hurt wolverine. After wolverine stabbed him, he was certanly feeling the punches enough to cringe in pain, also note that when he was doing this he would have been slowed down due to the lack of bloodloss and the wound itself, yet wolverine couldnt stop him from wailing on him till he was dragged away. While I disagreed that wolverine should have broken out of the webbing in the way he was webbed I can understand that because he was cocky and probbaly ignored his spider sense wolverine was able to stab him. That fight (at least in my eyes) prooved that once spider-man realy goes on the offensive with wolverine , he is to busy taking the punches to do anything about it.
actauly if u did not know this alreayd the faster wolverine healing factor gets the strnoger,faster, more agile and better reflexes he has sicne they are all tied to his healing factor.
also int eh fight in issue 14 of marvel knights spiderman were wolverine stabb spiderman. ya if u notice wolverine was letting spiderman hit him. u act as if that proves spiderman if he goes offensive he can beat wolverine? not true since if u watch wolverine is letting spiderman hit him if wolevrien wanted too he could of easiliy fought back.
Originally posted by Sparkz
I wouldnt go that far, even though he has 5 tons more strength now when they first fought Spider-man said he was giving it his all, I can understand wolverine staying conciouse in that fight, but not feeling pain and spider-man being scared of him just made me think that story was a load of crap. But Spider-man goes all out with his strength against wolverine, maybe not his speed because he can get cocky but definatly with his strength, going all out with full strength i would say that if spider-man was to unload a barrage of punches without letting up and without giving wolverine any time to recover he could knock him out, it wouldnt be for long because once he stopped his healing factor would kick in, but it would be enough for a victory.
Originally posted by capt it up
first of all my scanns prove wolverine has feats that match or close to matching spidermans own feats.actauly if u did not know this alreayd the faster wolverine healing factor gets the strnoger,faster, more agile and better reflexes he has sicne they are all tied to his healing factor.
also int eh fight in issue 14 of marvel knights spiderman were wolverine stabb spiderman. ya if u notice wolverine was letting spiderman hit him. u act as if that proves spiderman if he goes offensive he can beat wolverine? not true since if u watch wolverine is letting spiderman hit him if wolevrien wanted too he could of easiliy fought back.
Theres no evidence to proove that, spider-man went at wolverine and he's holding his arms over his head trying to stop the blowsdidnt look like wolverine was letting him hit him, and you don't know if he could have fought back or not, if your constanly being hit (and hurt) by some1 who is so much stronger than you and he is not letting up you wouldnt be able to retaliate.
And I was saying if Spider-man goes all out and on the offensive he can beat wolverine not guarenteed he will but he can.
Originally posted by capt it up
if spiderman did this he lose and arm or he get stabbed. only tim4s spiderman has eve rbeen able to unload hits on wolverine is when wolverine allows it.
thats not true in the first time they fought spider-man started unloading hits into wolverine on a gravestone (although wolverine does say "here it comes" but I don't think that meant he could have avoided the punch just he new it was coming as he seemed far to close to be able to evade)
Originally posted by Sparkz
thats not true in the first time they fought spider-man started unloading hits into wolverine on a gravestone (although wolverine does say "here it comes" but I don't think that meant he could have avoided the punch just he new it was coming as he seemed far to close to be able to evade)
Originally posted by Sparkz
Theres no evidence to proove that, spider-man went at wolverine and he's holding his arms over his head trying to stop the blowsdidnt look like wolverine was letting him hit him, and you don't know if he could have fought back or not, if your constanly being hit (and hurt) by some1 who is so much stronger than you and he is not letting up you wouldnt be able to retaliate.And I was saying if Spider-man goes all out and on the offensive he can beat wolverine not guarenteed he will but he can.
Spiderman can just web Logan's face and then grab his arms and then Peter can then wrap his legs aroung Logan. This would cause Logan to sufficate without escape.
The proof that spiderman can do this:
1. Marvel says spiderman reflexes operate up to 40 times that of a human. This means he can see in slow motion-a bullet traveling at 20mph.) Thus he can grab Logan's arms effortlessly
2. Spider can't get hit in this attempt. Even without his spider sense he will see wolverine moving in super slow motion.
3. Spider can stun wolverine with a strike before the attempt. Enabling him to web his face.
4. Spider moves faster than wolverine can move. (Again he sees wolverine in slow motion in which Spidey moves faster. Thus wolverine is helpless in this state.)
Originally posted by h1a8
Spiderman can just web Logan's face and then grab his arms and then Peter can then wrap his legs aroung Logan. This would cause Logan to sufficate without escape.The proof that spiderman can do this:
1. Marvel says spiderman reflexes operate up to 40 times that of a human. This means he can see in slow motion-a bullet traveling at 20mph.) Thus he can grab Logan's arms effortlessly
2. Spider can't get hit in this attempt. Even without his spider sense he will see wolverine moving in super slow motion.
3. Spider can stun wolverine with a strike before the attempt. Enabling him to web his face.
4. Spider moves faster than wolverine can move. (Again he sees wolverine in slow motion in which Spidey moves faster. Thus wolverine is helpless in this state.)
first off no spiderman can't do that.
1. wolverine sees bullet sin slow motion as well read weapon x.
2. wolverine can and has hit spiderman before. also spidemrna him self at one piont that logan might even be faster then him.
3. spidemrna has a loaded hits on wolverine with out stunning him so no that won't work.
4. spiderman moves faster then logan but no by a lot at all. spiderman in no way shape or form does he see logan in slow motion u realy should read up on logan.
do u even know what wolverine agility and reflexes are at?
what do u think they are?
human
peakhuman
or superhuman?
Spiderman wins this easily. I don't why everyone is saying Wolverine.
Spiderman has superhuman strength, agility, and a spider sense. The only real power wolverine has is the healing factor. Spiderman when's he's angry can easily beat the shit out of Wolverine. Wolverine is so overrated. Spiderman has thrown people through 3 stories buildings Wolverine has normal strength. All Spidey has to do is keep his distance and he wins easily.
Originally posted by vitaldragon
Spiderman wins this easily. I don't why everyone is saying Wolverine.Spiderman has superhuman strength, agility, and a spider sense. The only real power wolverine has is the healing factor. Spiderman when's he's angry can easily beat the shit out of Wolverine. Wolverine is so overrated. Spiderman has thrown people through 3 stories buildings Wolverine has normal strength. All Spidey has to do is keep his distance and he wins easily.
Be prepared my friend... be prepared.
Originally posted by vitaldragon
Spiderman wins this easily. I don't why everyone is saying Wolverine.Spiderman has superhuman strength, agility, and a spider sense. The only real power wolverine has is the healing factor. Spiderman when's he's angry can easily beat the shit out of Wolverine. Wolverine is so overrated. Spiderman has thrown people through 3 stories buildings Wolverine has normal strength. All Spidey has to do is keep his distance and he wins easily.
first off wolverine has superhuman agility,reflex,stamina,senses,strength.
Marvel hand book 2002-2003 master edition
Marvel knights encyclopedia 2003
Official Wolverine hand book of the marvel universe
Marvel comics presents Wolverine volume 2
Hulk ultimate guide also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
(THE SHOW DOWN OF THE CENTURY DC VERSUS MARVEL COMICS) also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
“The Marvel Universe Master Edition Issue 4 clearly states that Wolverine's strength is enhanced human.â€
next time before u speak please actauly know the characters u are speaking about
Originally posted by capt it up
yup u know ur stuff.......................NOT.first off wolverine has superhuman agility,reflex,stamina,senses,strength.
Marvel hand book 2002-2003 master edition
Marvel knights encyclopedia 2003
Official Wolverine hand book of the marvel universe
Marvel comics presents Wolverine volume 2
Hulk ultimate guide also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
(THE SHOW DOWN OF THE CENTURY DC VERSUS MARVEL COMICS) also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
“The Marvel Universe Master Edition Issue 4 clearly states that Wolverine's strength is enhanced human.�next time before u speak please actauly know the characters u are speaking about
Actually, Marve's official site mentions nothing about Superhuman agility, strength, etc....all it mentions is that he has heightened senses and a healing factor - http://www.marvel.com/universe/Wolverine_(James_Howlett)
The same with http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/w/wolverine.htm , which has taken all its information from the official Marvel Encyclopedia
In any case, all Wolverine has at best has peak human strength, where as Spiderman has Superhuman strength, along with superhuman agility, reflexes, and a Spider sense. So basically Spiderman can dodge anything Wolverine throws at him, even at close range. Spiderman has dodged a lot more than just claws before, it would be no problem. He can then throw Wolverine off a building, or swing him through buildings and kill him.
Originally posted by capt it up
yup u know ur stuff.......................NOT.first off wolverine has superhuman agility,reflex,stamina,senses,strength.
Marvel hand book 2002-2003 master edition
Marvel knights encyclopedia 2003
Official Wolverine hand book of the marvel universe
Marvel comics presents Wolverine volume 2
Hulk ultimate guide also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
(THE SHOW DOWN OF THE CENTURY DC VERSUS MARVEL COMICS) also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
“The Marvel Universe Master Edition Issue 4 clearly states that Wolverine's strength is enhanced human.â€next time before u speak please actauly know the characters u are speaking about
Wolverine dosent have Superhuman strength! What part of that don't you get?!?
oh and thats a great diss.......NOT 😆
Originally posted by vitaldragon
Actually, Marve's official site mentions nothing about Superhuman agility, strength, etc....all it mentions is that he has heightened senses and a healing factor - http://www.marvel.com/universe/Wolverine_(James_Howlett)The same with http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/w/wolverine.htm , which has taken all its information from the official Marvel Encyclopedia
In any case, all Wolverine has at best has peak human strength, where as Spiderman has Superhuman strength, along with superhuman agility, reflexes, and a Spider sense. So basically Spiderman can dodge anything Wolverine throws at him, even at close range. Spiderman has dodged a lot more than just claws before, it would be no problem. He can then throw Wolverine off a building, or swing him through buildings and kill him.
"Actually, Marve's official site mentions nothing about Superhuman agility, strength, etc....all it mentions is that he has heightened senses and a healing factor - http://www.marvel.com/universe/Wolverine_(James_Howlett)"
no longer official if u did not know fans are now able to write for it.
"The same with http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/w/wolverine.htm , which has taken all its information from the official Marvel Encyclopedia"
actauly that site has never been official and just so u know it not taken from marvel encyclopedia. u wanna know how i know this?
marvel knights encyclopedia list wolverine having enchanced agility reflex stamina and strength . thats whole stepp over peakhuman.
Marvel x-men encyclopedia states the same thing.
"In any case, all Wolverine has at best has peak human strength"
ur just plain wrong. yes spiderman stronger but wolverine still has superhuman strength.
HERE WERE I GOT SOME OF MY INFO
Marvel hand book 2002-2003 master edition
Marvel knights encyclopedia 2003
Official Wolverine hand book of the marvel universe
Marvel comics presents Wolverine volume 2
Hulk ultimate guide also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
(THE SHOW DOWN OF THE CENTURY DC VERSUS MARVEL COMICS) also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
“The Marvel Universe Master Edition Issue 4 clearly states that Wolverine's strength is enhanced human.” Quote from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wolverine_(comics)/Archive_2
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=46c6f3d71tg.jpg
Wolverines old stats.
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinesoldstats0xj.jpg
Wolverine throwing a 1,600 pound full trash container with one arm. (Yes look it up ur self’s at full they are 1,600 pounds)
http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anothergoodoldstrengthfeat5sc.jpg
This pic speaks for it self.
http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvstrength9ea.jpg
Lifting a shark that weights between 1000 to 1200 pounds and throwing it in a boat from the water. (Look it up your self if u don’t believe how much a shark that size would way)
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strengthfeatskarkstyle9jl.jpg
Wolverine punching a guy who says he his brother in water so hard he slams into the wall and his head goes through it.
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strength21yp.jpg
Wolverine beats rough-house with his fists. (Rough-house is stated by (marvels wolverine official hand book 2004) to be strength class of a 6 which is the same strength class colossus is in. he is also stated (wolverine # 123) to be just under hulks level of strength.
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineownsroughhouse6bd.jpg
wolverine lifting blob and slamming blobs head into the wall.
http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strengthandspeedfeat9oj.jpg
wolverine pick up a huge tree looking thing like a base ball bat and hitting a creature of pure energy.
http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anotherstrengthfeat7pr.jpg
Death wolverine smashing through a solid door of titanium that’s also being held back by x-man.
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anotherwolverinestrengthfeat9n.gif
since my printer is broken I can only get scan already on my computer so here are comic issue numbers of a few more feats of strength.
In (New X-men 115) Cassandra Nova has wolverine Cyclopes and pig faced guy chained up and wolverine easily breaks his chains using just strength and hits Cassandra nova.
In ( wolverine 28 agent of shield part 3) wolverine allows him self to be captured. Wolverine arms leg and neck are locked in this metal devices to hold wolverine but as soon as the sentinel attacks wolverine easily breaks it using pure strength.
In (Black Panther #9) a huge dragon mutant creature is flying holding black panther and wolverine stabs the creature in the tail and then swings the creature the opposite way while the creature is hold black panther.
In ( Wolverine #44) wolverine runs through a wall of rocks and boulders like it nothing.
In ( x-men # 7) wolverine who is haft dead and drugged breaks out of metal holding designed to hold him, using nothing but pure strength.
In ( x-men # 98) which is the 6th issue of x-men that wolverine was ever in. wolverine breaks holding of what were said to be unbreakable using just his strength because some guy this jean.
"where as Spiderman has Superhuman strength, along with superhuman agility, reflexes, and a Spider sense. So basically Spiderman can dodge anything Wolverine throws at him, even at close range. Spiderman has dodged a lot more than just claws before, it would be no problem. He can then throw Wolverine off a building, or swing him through buildings and kill him."
first off wolverine swing through a biulding would never kill him. that alone shows me u know next to nuthing about wolverine.
wolverien has superhuman reflex and agility though not as good as spiderman there close. spiderman spider sense is good true but wolverine has hyper sense which even that out.
also here wolverine hitting spiderman
Originally posted by Jade Lightning
One of those is from a what-if, and another if from a practice bout, but the others from the cemetary fight are credible.
Originally posted by capt it up
did u just honestly ignor the info i showed u?"Actually, Marve's official site mentions nothing about Superhuman agility, strength, etc....all it mentions is that he has heightened senses and a healing factor - http://www.marvel.com/universe/Wolverine_(James_Howlett)"
no longer official if u did not know fans are now able to write for it.
"The same with http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/w/wolverine.htm , which has taken all its information from the official Marvel Encyclopedia"
actauly that site has never been official and just so u know it not taken from marvel encyclopedia. u wanna know how i know this?
marvel knights encyclopedia list wolverine having enchanced agility reflex stamina and strength . thats whole stepp over peakhuman.
Marvel x-men encyclopedia states the same thing."In any case, all Wolverine has at best has peak human strength"
ur just plain wrong. yes spiderman stronger but wolverine still has superhuman strength.
HERE WERE I GOT SOME OF MY INFO
Marvel hand book 2002-2003 master edition
Marvel knights encyclopedia 2003
Official Wolverine hand book of the marvel universe
Marvel comics presents Wolverine volume 2
Hulk ultimate guide also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
(THE SHOW DOWN OF THE CENTURY DC VERSUS MARVEL COMICS) also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
“The Marvel Universe Master Edition Issue 4 clearly states that Wolverine's strength is enhanced human.” Quote from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wolverine_(comics)/Archive_2http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=46c6f3d71tg.jpg
Wolverines old stats.
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinesoldstats0xj.jpg
Wolverine throwing a 1,600 pound full trash container with one arm. (Yes look it up ur self’s at full they are 1,600 pounds)
http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anothergoodoldstrengthfeat5sc.jpgThis pic speaks for it self.
http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvstrength9ea.jpgLifting a shark that weights between 1000 to 1200 pounds and throwing it in a boat from the water. (Look it up your self if u don’t believe how much a shark that size would way)
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strengthfeatskarkstyle9jl.jpgWolverine punching a guy who says he his brother in water so hard he slams into the wall and his head goes through it.
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strength21yp.jpgWolverine beats rough-house with his fists. (Rough-house is stated by (marvels wolverine official hand book 2004) to be strength class of a 6 which is the same strength class colossus is in. he is also stated (wolverine # 123) to be just under hulks level of strength.
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineownsroughhouse6bd.jpgwolverine lifting blob and slamming blobs head into the wall.
http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strengthandspeedfeat9oj.jpgwolverine pick up a huge tree looking thing like a base ball bat and hitting a creature of pure energy.
http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anotherstrengthfeat7pr.jpgDeath wolverine smashing through a solid door of titanium that’s also being held back by x-man.
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anotherwolverinestrengthfeat9n.gifsince my printer is broken I can only get scan already on my computer so here are comic issue numbers of a few more feats of strength.
In (New X-men 115) Cassandra Nova has wolverine Cyclopes and pig faced guy chained up and wolverine easily breaks his chains using just strength and hits Cassandra nova.
In ( wolverine 28 agent of shield part 3) wolverine allows him self to be captured. Wolverine arms leg and neck are locked in this metal devices to hold wolverine but as soon as the sentinel attacks wolverine easily breaks it using pure strength.
In (Black Panther #9) a huge dragon mutant creature is flying holding black panther and wolverine stabs the creature in the tail and then swings the creature the opposite way while the creature is hold black panther.
In ( Wolverine #44) wolverine runs through a wall of rocks and boulders like it nothing.
In ( x-men # 7) wolverine who is haft dead and drugged breaks out of metal holding designed to hold him, using nothing but pure strength.
In ( x-men # 98) which is the 6th issue of x-men that wolverine was ever in. wolverine breaks holding of what were said to be unbreakable using just his strength because some guy this jean.
"where as Spiderman has Superhuman strength, along with superhuman agility, reflexes, and a Spider sense. So basically Spiderman can dodge anything Wolverine throws at him, even at close range. Spiderman has dodged a lot more than just claws before, it would be no problem. He can then throw Wolverine off a building, or swing him through buildings and kill him."
first off wolverine swing through a biulding would never kill him. that alone shows me u know next to nuthing about wolverine.
wolverien has superhuman reflex and agility though not as good as spiderman there close. spiderman spider sense is good true but wolverine has hyper sense which even that out.also here wolverine hitting spiderman
Yeah, he has "enhanced" strength, not SUPERHUMAN strength. Also when he is lifting 1600lbs with one hand thats really hard for him.
Spiderman's max is 50 TONS (112,000LBS) where as Wolverine's max is not even 2 or 3 tons. Haha, Wolverine is still a weakling compared to Spidey. Also, Wolverine usually tries a lot harder than Spiderman, when Spiderman actually tries hard he could easily beat the shit out of Wolverine.
