hmmm . . . 😖hifty:
http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvie1ks3.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvie2fu0.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvie3rr4.jpg
so, if CAP can do that, and spidey is faster and stronger than cap, why couldn't spidey do the same thing? then he webs logan to the ground and webs his nose and mouth.
spidey wins. YEE-HAW!!
and at long last, this thread can rest in peace . . .
rip
(yeah, like it would be THAT easy . . .) 🙄
Originally posted by Grimm22No he did not have a healing factor. His face was still a mess even after he escaped from the hospital. He showed no fast healing ability whatsoever. Sabretooth sucked big time back then. For got sakes he got taken down by Black Cat.
Nah he had a healing factor, it just wasnt as well shown as today or rather as ridiculous as today's standards.
Originally posted by Grimm22He didn't rip his face off, he scratched furrows across his face. Days or weeks? Back then it would have taken him just as long as it takes a human to heal from that kind of wound. As in not at all, he would have scars for the rest of his life, because in those days the character had no healing power to speak of.
I mean he cut his face off. Back then it would take him days or weeks to heal from that.
Originally posted by Grimm22Your estimations of Sabretooth as well as Wolverine's healing factor is rediculously ignorant, as usual.
Nowadays, probobly a day.
Originally posted by Grimm22How you think it should be is irrelevant. Your personal opinion of the healing factor does not matter.
Im just seeing it how it should be.
Originally posted by Grimm22What you think is fair is again irrelevant. Your estimation of an hour for facial injury is laughable. Wolverine recovered from having his skeleton ripped out in about an hour.
Rather though, an hour seems fair.
Originally posted by Grimm22Only because you like Wolverine and Sabretooth's healing factor to suck so that your favorite characters can stand a chance of inflicting lasting damage.
Seconds is ridiculous.
Originally posted by Grimm22Your right, the Hulk heals cuts like his skin is made of liquid. But Wolverine and Sabretooth can take complete penetration of the trunkand be fine in seconds. They've been doing it for at least a decade, easy.
He's not he freakin Hulk
Originally posted by Grimm22What you think is again, irrelevant. The way it is Sabretooth heals from that in seconds. The way it should be is how it IS portrayed, which is healing from it in seconds.
I was just saying how I think it should be. 😬
The way it is, Sabertooth would heal from that in a minute.
The way it should be, Sabertooth would heal from it in 30 minutes.
If the healing factor took 30 minutes to heal a minor wound like a clawed face Wolverine and Sabretooth wouldn't have much of a prayer against anyone, which is obviously just how you like it. Good thing your opinion comes from somewhere even more made up than the Marvel Universe.
Originally posted by Grimm22Sabretooth did not scratch his own eyes out. They were whited out simply because that's how they are usually drawn. Considering normal humans can stay concious after having their arms or legs ripped off Wolverine and Sabes pain tolerance should be through the roof and then some, especially considering they know they only have to deal with the pain for a few seconds.
I mean he scrated his eyes out. Other than that, like Wolverine he's not immune to pain. Tearing your own face off, would be EXTREMELY painful, either way he would be stuned for some time, giving Spidey all the time he needs to KO Sabertooth ✅
Originally posted by long pigFirst of all that did not happen a FEW issues ago. It happened over 40 issues ago.
Nah, it happened in the arch where he was protecting the hooker from these people that wanted to make her a slave. He was k.o'd by the bullets allowing her to be stolen, he went to find her when he woke up.
Originally posted by long pigHe was never KOed by a single bullet in that arc. What are you talking about?
Same arch he's K.O'd by a single bullet, a few archs later he's k.o'd by having his neck broken.
Originally posted by leonidas
hmmm . . . 😖hifty:
http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvie1ks3.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvie2fu0.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvie3rr4.jpg
so, if CAP can do that, and spidey is faster and stronger than cap, why couldn't spidey do the same thing?.
Originally posted by leonidasFunny how Spidey needs all these elaborate plots to win, yet all Wolverine has to do once is slash, dead.
then he webs logan to the ground and webs his nose and mouth.
Originally posted by capt it upHmmm, that's right, and probably a much more applicable question.
why can't wolverine do what capt did to spiderman ecpt add 3 foot long claws to the equation
Originally posted by leonidasNo he didn't, the fight just started close quarters when Cap snuck up on Spidey. Uh oh, there was that Spider-Sense at work again. Most of the fight was close quarters. The only reason Spidey tried to go long range was because Cap was embarassing him up close. Had that been Wolverine those first two punches would have killed Spider-Man, instead of just bruising him up. Every fight they've had turns into a close-up fight. Almost every fight Spidey has is too. He can't beat you by throwing silly string at you after all. He has to do most of his biog damage up close.
cap forced spidey in close with his shield. how does wolvie force spidey to battle at close quarters?
Originally posted by leonidas
hmmm . . . 😖hifty:http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvie1ks3.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvie2fu0.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvie3rr4.jpg
so, if CAP can do that, and spidey is faster and stronger than cap, why couldn't spidey do the same thing? then he webs logan to the ground and webs his nose and mouth.
well let's see for one... wolverine probably isn't going to fight nuke before spidey gets to him so his healing factor won't be infringed..
two... spiderman isn't going to secure a sneak attack on wolverine at the beginning of the fight.
three...wolverine won't be milling about with his back turned to spidey explaining himself like he was when cap chucked his sheild....
four.. spidey doesn't have a vibranium sheild.
five.. spidey doesn't have caps tactical prowess.
six... spidey isn't anywhere NEAR as good a fighter.
seven... wolverine was completely at ease while fighting cap... get him angry and his healing factor gets a boost.. or am I the only one who noticed how slow acting it was during that scene?
(seriously.. in a state of anger he heals mortal wounds in seconds...)
eight... what do you mean "if cap can do this"?
you mean get a blood clot in his leg and lose by default? cause that's basically what happens.... and that's while wolverine's simultaneously punkin out him, hellion, and cyclops... all after he dispatched nuke already... kind of a skewed way to represent spiderman with that feat no?
Originally posted by riceroost
First of all that did not happen a FEW issues ago. It happened over 40 issues ago.
Second, he was not KOed by the bullets. He clearly drags himself over to her room to check on her. This was also a very low end showing of the healing factor, especially considering Chris Claremont had Wolverine take 40 bullets to the chest in Wolverine vol. 2 # 1 (When his healing factor was much weaker) and it didn't even hurt him. This was just Greg Rucka's interpretation of the healing factor,
I KNEW IT! I knew he was talking about rucka's run again.. I mean damn.. that guy contradicted himself as much as he did the characters in his own arcs for god's sakes...
"sabretooth needs wolverine to hunt down the native cause he can't track or beat her and admits that wolverine's his superior"... 😕
except 3 issues later "sabretooth tracks down the native even though logan can't, he beats down logan and then kills the native..." way to go rucka that made a lot of sense.. 😐
seriously.. I saw the taser thing you're talking about... bullshite I say.. especially considering it took superhuman amounts of taser voltage to put down logan when he DIDN'T have his powers in the criminal prison and was STILL struggling a bit by the end of it... 😬
Originally posted by riceroost
And the neck broken thing was REALLY stupid on Rucka's part considering the Hulk can't break Wolverine's neck. It was almost as stupid as Wolverine popping his claws through Sabretooth's adamantium skull, which happened in the same arc the issue before the broken neck. Hmmmm, twice Rucka had adamantium get broke in his run. Maybe his stuff isn't the best stuff to base your arguments on.
but yes.. the sabretooth's skull debacle was laughable at best.. as is the fact that sabretooth forgot he had superstrength....
Originally posted by jinzinAnd I will pull up a chair and provide color commentary for the mauling.
I WILL END YOU 😠
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterIs it?!? By the end of the plane ride home Wolverine was able to get up from being DEAD and move fast enough to save Jean from getting sucked out a friggin window. I'd say he was on the mend just fine.
[b]What you think is fair is again irrelevant. Your estimation of an hour for facial injury is laughable. Wolverine recovered from having his skeleton ripped out in about an hour.
Ridiculous. [/B]
