Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Sparkz1,019 pages

Originally posted by jinzin
did you only skim through my response? 🤨

he was trying to scare spiderman off.... don't act like wolverine's NOT accustomed to just randomly popping his claws at people when he's in a grumpy mood... hell if all you've ever seen of wolverine was from the old school cartoon you would know that much....

Well to be honest I never looked at the fight like that, mainly cause I was to busy focusing on why Spider-man was so scared...but you have a point neither was fighting at their best, why I don't like that fight much, sure its entertaining but it dosn't help in this forum.

it does however prove a few points that we CAn use in this thread though... for instance,

wolverine's speed is surprisingly fast in spidey's mind's eye.
wolverine can take everything spidey's got to the head and just smile at it.
spiderman will fatigue far faster than wolverine.

Originally posted by jinzin
it does however prove a few points that we CAn use in this thread though... for instance,

wolverine's speed is surprisingly fast in spidey's mind's eye.
wolverine can take everything spidey's got to the head and just smile at it.
spiderman will fatigue far faster than wolverine.

Yes although Spidey wouldnt usualy fatigue that fast...and at least Spidey's punches kept wolverine down even though they weren't doing much (yes I'm grasping at straws)

look there is a simple logic here

spider-man got 20 class strength but it wont help him against wolverine , it wont ko him and it wont hurt him as was proven twice... once in the fight they had in the graveyard... the other when spider-man was hiting wolverine and he was laughing

wolverine got a tool that can kill spider-man .. wolverine cut him in the new avengers and spider-man faited ... and here is spider-man faiting from just a bullet to his hand... damn normal people could take a bullet to the freakin hand without fait
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/650/scan00143de.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/650/scan00143de.jpg

so basically simple logic... spider-man could give him a fight but not for too long because wolverine just needs to land one hit thats it , and guess what?? if every freakin character every street leveler that he was fighting gainst even freakin rhino could punch him .... then there is no question wolverine is going to do it 10000 times more

even punisher hits him ....
http://www.spidervillain.com/SpiderManCovers/Amazing/ASM129/Page3.jpg

spider-mans web aint working on wolverine
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7118306

wolverine can take him with 1 hit in the right place
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7118307

conclusion? 1+1= wolverine kills that geek every time they fight

class dismised

Originally posted by wolvertooth
spider-mans web aint working on wolverine

Originally posted by Sparkz
Yes although Spidey wouldnt usualy fatigue that fast...and at least Spidey's punches kept wolverine down even though they weren't doing much (yes I'm grasping at straws)
lol.. fair enough.

Wolverine

Originally posted by JohnnyDo3
Wolverine

Loses

wolverine takes this one.

Spider-Man FTW.

Originally posted by wolvertooth

alright can someone please post scans of the entire fight? because this retard fanboy is trying to lie like some b*tch? can someone show scans of the entire fight so we all see that wolverine got some good shots at spider-man before spider-man lets him tackle him? of by the way i dont have a scanner if i had i would post where spider-man was down from the stab but i have another one a nice one where guess what?? wolverine hits him .... how the hell can that be

Man, if I knew you were THAT desperate I'd have put all scans at the same time. What kind of pathetic fanboy you are if you prefere to lie like a b!tch to avoid pure facts.
1) http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4082248
Enlighten me please where are your "good shots"? May be when they are rolling on the groung because Spider-man jumped on him? Or may be when Wolverine misses (again) and Spider-man launches him in the air? Then Wolverine misses again.
2) http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4082252
I showed this one already, Wolverine misses three times and Spider-man punches him in the face twice
3) http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4082256
Then Spider-man starts beating the crap out of him and Wolverine can't do a sh!t about it.
4) http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4082257
Then Spider-man lets Wolverine tackle him, and since you are too stupid to understand what does that mean, I'll translate it for you, it means Spider-man ALLOWS Wolverine to attack.
So where are the "shots"? Wolverine can't even match "amature" Spider-man when he fights "stupid" and moves slow. L.O.L Man you are pathetic and retard fanboy, and when you call me a fanboy you only embarrass yourself more, i give pure facts, you believe everything Wolverine does isn't PIS including regenerating from skeleton in seconds. 🙄
Originally posted by wolvertooth

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7118307
puts down spider-geek with a kick Lol
😆
Some taugh guy, kicked Spider-man in the balls like a b!tch. 😆
You only proved me right, Wolverine was taken down by a single hit in the balls! From Castle! And unlike Spider-man he has healing factor and even with it he got owned like a b!tch LOL Ice cold killer - useless old, short man.LOL

Originally posted by wolvertooth

i wasnt talking about that thing, i was talking about the time when spider-man sent wolverine flying from a slap when he was fighting the entire x-men .... that was a PIS

So Spider-man that sent Venom flying 50 feet away with a punch can't make slap Wolverine hard enough to send him flying? Your logic = crap.

Originally posted by wolvertooth

yes it is... every freaking character spider-man fought could tag him and some could beat the crap out of him , so every fight someone tags him is a PIS? because he got spider sense how could punisher or kraven or vulture or hell even rhino punch him? you idiot wolverine is much faster then them all if all those losers could do it then wolverine should do it and already did it
Anothe rprove that you don't know what you are talking about. When Rhino or Vulture attacks Spider-man he always gets warning, even if he gets hit he first gets warning, but when Wolverine grabbed his neck in the forest Spider-man was standing there and clearly didn't expected this to happen. Yeah, makes a LOT of sense! How stupid you are if you concider that Wolverine being slapped is PIS but not working Spider-sense isn't?

Originally posted by wolvertooth

when spider-man webed wolverine.... wolverine wasnt fighting him but when wolverine kicked spider-man they were in the middle of a fight
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7118307
Can you read? I'm talking about throwing out of the window thing, Wolverine clearly expected Spider-man to attack him and still couldn't do a sh!t about it. And Wolverine performed trick that only desperate b!tches use, kick in the balls LOL What a b!tch. Weebing up from behind is noble comparing to this.

Originally posted by wolvertooth

most of his fights wolverine just let others hit him or shoot him because he knows he can heal he dares them , like when he was standing on his bike and took shots he wasnt even trying to avoid it he can take the damage, you show low showings? alright, spider-man got hit from a street gent with a pipe once, he got his ass kicked by the punisher in h2h , he was sent flying by sabretooths hit, he was stabed by some street punk , every character got low showings, but every time spider-man is fighting scorpion, lizard,black cat,blade,doc ock, he always gets hit and taged? all of this is PIS? no its not its just that he is not that fast in a fight
Now you are simply making excuses for Wolverine. ALL these times he dares them to attack him? LOL Yeah right, like when he got cut by Deadpool many times or hit by cars, lol he dared them LOL. Very convinient, when you talk about Spider-man you prefere to use his low showings, but when Wolverine PIS episodes. For the record, Spider-man never fights at his best with characters without super durability. Guys like Punisher, Ock, Volture. He could've killed tham with one punch and it was stated many times. But in the books he doen't wont to kill anyone, but this rule doesn't work in vs threads. So it all depends on how Spider-man fights (here we assume at his best) and at his best he can't be hit by fire from dozens of machine guns at once. Wolverine on other hand, was owned by people like Deadpool, Punisher, Sabertooth, hell even Beast was winning in the fight with him. He was owned by Cyclops in H2H! Wolverine with claws, skills, healing factor was owned by Scot and he wasn't even using powers. He couldn't even stab Cyclops, how the hell is he going to stab Spider-man that is fighting at his best and can dodge bullets with ease. Man, all you say makes no sense.
Originally posted by wolvertooth

on this forum most of the people are idiots who say every thing wolverine has done is PIS , so dont give me that bullsh*t because every time wolverine got a good showing some internet geeks say its PIS because he kicked there characters ass
No, every time Wolverine does something he is not supposed to do it IS PIS. And that icludes taking nuke in the face and then standing up like nothing happened and regenerating from only adamantium bones in few seconds. That's what people call PIS and it is you idiot (not them) if you think otherwise. If you don't want to go by the rules of this forum, go find another one. Because if you want to use all PIS showings I can bring that Spider-man defeated Firelord! Wow! He is now herald level! LOL
Originally posted by wolvertooth

namor class 100 that hits wolverine from behind? strange thing that namor gave wolverine 2 punches and nothing happened, then wolverine stabed the idiot and threw hit and only then got him from behind in the head that should ko anyone from behind , juggernaut hits him twice before that slap , and are you that retarded motha****a to even compare spider-geek to those two? again you ignore what i say... spider-man wond get the chanse to hit wolverine many times because all wolverine has to do is just counter hin once and stab him , wolverine could counter the hulk... spider-man is piece of trash to him
Wolverine is piece of trash to Hulk as well, it doesn't mean a sh!t, they fight different ways. Wolverine can't counter stab Spider-man because Spider-man is faster and has better reflexes it is all connected. Funny, why punch from behind makes it harder for Wolverine to heal? By logic of Wolverine fanboys Wolverine can heal from punches instantly, Before that slap he had enough time to heal from two punches, so basically it was slap alone that took him down, same with Namor's punch. And pay attention, I'm going by logic of Wolverine's fanboys. And btw, you piece of crap. Don't swear at me on forum because it is pathetic, you call peaople "motha****" through the net and it makes you feel taugh? It only proves that you are desperate to prove anything. As for Spider-man's punches. It was you who was comparing punch from Daredevil to Spider-man's punch. And you said they are almost the same. So now you say Spider's punch can't be even close to Namor's. They are all "superhuman punches" after all. You contradic yourself.

Originally posted by wolvertooth

you retard when the hell did i say that? i see that you like to debate with yourself... spider-mans punch is harder then daredevils.. but daredevil used pressure points you idiot, spider-man cant use them and a punch to the throat wont do the job is will stun wolverine but wont kill him or even ko him , look what pressure points did to the thing, he is vornuble as hell and still he was taken out by a hit to his pressure point in the chest, but when someone class 100 punch him in the chest much harder nothing happens.... why? because when you hit the direct pressure point in makes the damage but not when you hit the entire aria ,
You should watch less kung-fu movies, smart guy. Go look at that attack again, it was just A FREAKING direct hit in the throat, NOTHING special. You are now just trying to justify that Wolverine can be owned by guys like Daredevil without much trouble. Spider-man can hit him with his palm like darevil did in the throat and it WILL work, and you have nothing to prove otherwise. Know why such attacks like in the throat and balls will work against him? Because when he's hit in the head or chest, he has adamantium skeleton to protect his organs from major damage, and he heals fast. But there is no admantium in his balls or throat (only deeper, protecting the neck) so such attacks hurt him.

Originally posted by wolvertooth

i was asking you for ways that spider-man could kill wolverine and thats the crap you gave me, now a kick to the balls could stun him but nothing more and nothing special

Again, this is vs forum. And kncock out, is concidered a victory here. I gave you ways for Spider-man to kill him + ways to defeat him, and you just whine about it. Hit in the balls worked before and Wolverine was down long enough for Frank, to say long speech, spray him with gasoine, to have a smoke and put Wolverine on fire. And all that time he was standing close to Wolverine and Logan couldn't even stab him from close range because he was REALLY hurt and wasn't able to heal. Like it or not, it will work.

Originally posted by wolvertooth

really? well i say wolverine is too fast to get hit by spider-mans webs and even is he does he can cut it or tear it .... and guess what??? i got a scan to prove that spider-mans web wont work a crap on logan

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7118306
eat that retard fanboy

So? It proves that Wolverine can cut web. Wow. You. are. smart. 😆 I already proved that Wolverine can't tear web with strength, and i proved Wolverine can be webbed up in such position that he won't be able to free himself. You on other hand prefere b!tching that Wolverine can dodge EVERYTHING. To avoid web, he'll have to avoid Spider-man himself, and he won't be able to do that since Spider-man (i won't get tired of repeating that, since you are too retard to remember it) is faster and has better reflexes. And fight on the cemetry prove that.

Originally posted by wolvertooth

again spider-man attacked him when wolverine didnt even knew that and wasnt even ready to fight spider-man it was a cheap shot and heres what happens if spider-man tries that in a fight

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7118306

Kick in the balls is a cheap shot. Webbing Wolverine up to stop him from killing someone, isn't. 😆 Pathetic, you bring one an the same scan twise to prove that Wolverine can cut! Imressive lol. Spider-man can throw wolverine on the ground like a short old man that he is and web his hands to the groung so he won't be able to cut the web. And it won't be a problem since (c'mone, all together) Spider-man is faster and stronger and has better reflexes.

Originally posted by wolvertooth

total PIS , spider-man could never send wolverine flying with a slap with the back of his hand , but they had to show that he can fight the x-men ... how dumb would it be if spider-man would be taken right away by wolverine? the writer had to show that spider-man can give the x-men a fight
😂 Yeah that's PIS but regenerating from skeleton in seconds isn't lol You obviously don't know what PIS is and never read Spider-man books. He turned a frekaing truck with his finger after it was a little bent to the ground. There is no reason to think that he can't send Wolverine that weights less than 1/2 of ton flying. That scene only proves that Wolverine is not a match in speed for Spider-man and that he's just nothing for him. He couldn't even get him from the back lol. And since you started that "writer had to show" thing. In many Wolverine's appearances writers want to show that he can handle guys he is not supposed too to make his fanboys happy.

Originally posted by wolvertooth

Lol its even more funny the second time.... first of all spider-man wont have the chanse to do it because he wont be able to put wolverine in that position wolverine can cut thrue the webs and wolverine wont get hit by the webs .. second spider-man cant do in and if you think he can then you are an idiot .... actually you are an idiot anyway but if spider-man could strike thrue wolverines flesh with class 15-20 hit... then what should happen to wolverine when he got hit by class 100 characters? you see idiot? spider-man cant pierce wolverines skin with his fingers... how would he do it? with a punch? right... wendigo hulk sasquatch punched wolverine as hard as they could in the stomach and nothing but a punch from spider-man will make a whole ...... you retard... heyy... by your logic then spider-man could do it to captain america right? by the way isnt it strange that spider-man got owned by captain america twice? with his armor? Lol.... anyway spider-man should just tear the skeleton out of every street leveler.... hell even some super levelers... same about puma and everybody ..... is that the new way for spider-man to win from his fanboys????Lollllllllll so spider-man now is sub zero from mortal kombat he goes and rips skeletons.... like i said before.... if punches from 100 levelers couldnt even hurt him then a punch from 20 class geek shouldnt do it as well
😂 I never read so much crap in ONE passage. First of all Spider-man can web Wolverine with easy because he is FASTER and he can web him in position in which Wolverine won't be able to cut the web and he already did that before... But ofcourse you already knew that, right? No wait, you didn't, because you are stupid. When Hulk hits Wolverine in the head or chest adamantium protects his organs. 😂 I just realised. You really believe that Hulk can't tear Wolverine's flesh with a punch? God, you ARE stupid.
His flesh that is not protected by adamantium is not much more durable than of average peak humans, and Spider-man can tear through it WITH EASE. And if you are going to argue that I'll gonna make a new thread where I'll ask this question. "Can Spider-man get through Wolverine's flesh with a punch?" So you'd see what a retard fanboy you are. Wolverine's fanboy's already think he is immortal, what's next? He has indestructable flesh? lol That's second by the way. As for being "owned" by captain america, he was more thinking than fighting, and he clearly struggled to beat someone who was a legend for him. Remember "symbol of the whole freaking country...". And since you like talking about ownage, how did it happened Wolverine got owned by Deadpool three times? And remember that deadpool never even fights seriously. lol And he still beat that old fart.

Originally posted by wolvertooth

i know that you are desperete .... but leing? please show me when i stated such a stupid thing ... come on you can do beter then lie like some b*tch
😆 I already cought you lying few times and it is you who is desperete since you get you a$$ handed to you. You can't prove that Wolverine is a match in speed. I can prove otherwise. You can't prove he is a match in reflexes. I can. I can prove Wolverine can webbed in position so he won't be able to cut the web, you can't. And cutting web before doesn't prove anything. I can prove hit in the balls and throat will work, you can't disprove it. Oh hell, you even think that denying pure facts would help your argument. All you left to do is b!tching that Wolverine is as fast even though books prove otherwise and bring PIS arguments.

Wolvie888 is REBORN

Originally posted by wolvertooth

non of the ways you mentioned is going to work and i showed you why...wolverine took down class 100 characters... how the hell is class 20 strength is a factor? idiot... wolverine got the skills over him... wolverine knows where to hit... he knows where to hit for the kill and all he has to do is just stab spider-man once... spider-man on the other hand can punch and punch from am to pm and nothing wont happen ...
You keep b!tching about same things without proving anything, that's pathetic. I already proved WOlverine can be knocked by a SLAP from class 100 character. ALL I listed above WILL work because Spider-man has 1) superior strength 2) superior speed 3) Better reflexes To perform all those ways i listed and I proved they will work. All wolverine left to do is "stab" someone who is faster stronger can dodge bullets lasers etc with ease and to assume that it'll work is stupid, like you are. And Wolverine got "skills" that he barely uses and that are useless against much superior character. Take Carnage for example. Carnage basically can do EVERYTHING Wolverine can, but he is faster, MUCH stronger, has distance attacks, he is not triggered by spider sense and also uses sharp weapons and HE was never able to cut Spider-man. So someone who is superior to Wolverine in every way can't do that then how the hell is Wolverine gonna do that if he is slower?
Originally posted by wolvertooth

by the way here are some scans where spider-man gets hit by bullets in his arms and again he faits like some b*tch

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9141/scan00137vb.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/650/scan00143de.jpg
damn he is such a geek how the hell can some one even say that he can take wolverine? wolverine took thousand bullets in his due to his hilling factor and spider-man is fating from a bullet in his hand..... Lol ... that just shows you what happen when he gets hit... and wolverine wont cut him in the hand.... wolverine will cut his f*cking head off ... and again spider-man already faited when wolverine just cut him in the chest .... damn he always faits like some b*tch

LOL You are not just stupid, but pathetic. Have you even read the whole book? He cought one bullet. What is that scan supposed to prove? It only proves he has great reflexes and proves that he doesn't have healing factor lol big news He got shot in the shoulder. Wolverine gets hurt from bullets even though he has healing factor and he gets owned by people without it all the time and even by people MUCH slower than Spider-man, like Cyclops. Are you that desperet that you start to use a b c logic again? I can reposts scans above again.

Originally posted by wolvertooth

yes wolverine will beat the crap out of spider-man just with his punches because they are adamantium fists... and 5-10 punches is enough to kill spider-man without a problem he isnt very durable

Yeah lol Now Wolverine can punch harder than Juggernaut. Aaaahhh fanboys... Spider-man took 5 punches from Juggernaut and kept fighting. He took punches from Venom that destroyed tanks with single punches. "Not very durable" Clearly you know nothing about the character and debate. 5 punches lol you, fanboys are killing me.
Originally posted by wolvertooth

wolverine taged him in every fight they had exept that PIS when spider-man was fighting the x-men ..... if every freakin character in marvel could hit spider-man then i really think that wolverine will be able to do it ..... spider-man is faster in the agility thing but in the fight itself i really think that wolverine will be able to land much more then one hit and it was already done by him
Let's see. In the scene that you call PIS for some unknown reason Wolverine wasn't fast enough to get Spider from the behind. In their brightest fight in the cemetry, Wolverine coudn't get Spider-man untill Spider-man himself allowed him! So Wolverine was not even a match for Spider-man when he was not that skilled and was MOVING SLOW. That scene alone proves that WOlverine is not a match in speed for Spider-man. As for being hit before, it is stupid a b c logic that doesn't works here. We know what Spider-man is capable of, he is capable of dodging bullets at close range and fast enough to dodge bullet that is already fired and that is one feet away from him. We know that Carnage that is much faster than Wolverine and that has distant attacks couldn't cut Spider-man. Spider-man sees attacks coming 40 times slower than me or you. He gets warning of the attack and it's direction before it's performed. All this already proves that
he is not getting stabbed. But you ignore everything and prefere to go by PIS and a b c logic and it's stupid because by this fanboy logic i can prove that Squrrel girl is a match for Galactus but it would make no sense, just like your a b c arguments.
Originally posted by wolvertooth

and who was the one that made spider-man hurt? 🙄 , yes wolverine... say it b*tch .... you idiotttttt 😆 , when spider-man was hitting wolverine , wolverine was like no pity please stop i didnt mean that .... Lol he was laughing and spider-man you idiot... he wasnt in pain at all he was marking spider-man Lol ... i cant believe it now spider-man retard fanboys say that wolverine was in pain when he actually was laughing about spider-man
😆 How retard yo are? Spider-man fell uncouncious a moment later, so he clearly wasn't beating Wolverine at his best because he was weak and injured. Yes, he was cut by Wolverine, so? It wasn't a fight and proves nothing. Wolverine got slapped like a b!tch by Spider-man before and webbed like a b!tch and thrown out of window and there was nothing Wolverine could do. If you prefere nonfights then Spider-man still wins. And if you'll stop being an "idiottt" fanboy and look at their fights you'll see that Wolverine can't even stab Spider-man when he is moving slow. You are not just a lier, you are retard fanboy with no sense of limit. How many times do i have to repeat myself and to show you pure facts so you'd finally see them? 🙄

Originally posted by wolvertooth

skills are much more important.... spider-man has super human strength but that only helps when you fight someone that cant hurt you...
Skills are not more important especially when you fight someone who's faster and stronger than you, and Wolverine barely uses his skills in the fights.
Originally posted by wolvertooth

but wolverine got a tool that can kill spider-man so it doesnt matter if spider-man is stronger... because all wolverine has to do is stab him once and thats it..
There, you said it. Basically all Wolverine can do is stab Spider-man. And he'll have to stab stronger and what's more important FASTER opponent that dodges bullets with ease and to whom dodging Wolverine that is not even close as fast as Carnage or especially bullets is a joke. So all your arguments lose sense, even books prove me right.
Originally posted by wolvertooth

so in that case , killing tool >>> super strength , because spider-mans strength is not a factor here, wolverine has a healing factor which meand durability far beyond spider-mans , wolverine has a tool that can kill spider-man so its better then 100 class punch , you understabd the logic? maybe he is faster a little but wolverine can will and did tag him and hurt him , so as i mentioned wolverine got the tools to kill him while spider-man dont
In case, killing tool <<<<< super strength, super speed, better reflexes, spider sense. Spider-man is not faster a little but he is that fast that WOlverine can't even stab him while he moves slow, and durability is not such a big factor here too since I already proved Spider-man has ways to take Wolverine down and even kill him. And he also has speed and strength advantages to perform those ways. And what can you know about the "logic"? You use a b c logic to prove your points and ignore pure facts. And facts say that Wolverine can't stab Spider-man even if Spider-man is moving slow. 😆
Originally posted by wolvertooth

and again its just too funny Lol 😆
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/650/scan00143de.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/650/scan00143de.jpg

Lol and you dare to compate that geek to wolverine? 🙄

Scan of being shot in the shoulder and catching bullet, yeah. Funny. Short old fart that is kicked by a deer and being koed with a slap from Juggernaut. Now that's funny! You repeat same and same crap all the time... You know Wolvertooth. I hate people like you. And not because you are retard fanboy with lack of knowledge about characters, but because people like you spoil great characters. Because of your limitless fanbouism people start hating characters like Wolverine, and because of fanboys like you he became the most hated character on the whole forum and in many other forums. It's petty. So if you have nothing new to say and what's more important to disprove my points about superior speed, reflexes and strength and if you have nothing to say to disprove my ways of defeating Wolverine, then simply don't respone because we are running circles.

So wolvie, u think that wolverine beating Lobo is not PIS?

Originally posted by jinzin
it makes sense though... in a one on one fight wolverine's been able to drop namor... what did namor do to iron man in new avengers illuminati (sp?)?

iron man needs upgraded armor so that he can give hulk trouble, when wolverine gives hulk trouble with and without admantium in his body....

iron man almost got taken out by 50 hand ninjas.. wolverine fought and killed 1500 in one fight... 😬

I mean, yeah iron man does have a lot of advantages over wolverine, but I could see how sheild would place them in the same category....

bah, I'm getting ahead of myself here, anywho.. you just proved my point.. these characters are about more than statistical data, especially when that data leaves things out of account, or is subjective to limited attributes..

IronMan can nuke a place, his armor makes him less suited for melee, it's like a swordsman vs a heavygunman being surrounded.. Spiderman can do more things with little time. Spiderman could kill more humans faster than Wolverine could.

Annnyways, using no feats alone just leades to circular feat wars.... Blah blah blah, but you and I know this.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/650/scan00143de.jpg

Well Spiderman could have dodged the bullets all day.
The reason why he was hit was because he wanted to stop
the bullets with his bare hands. Before that event he had
a training session with Captain America who advised him
to use his powers more effectively and that he shouldnt rely
too much on his instincts.

So if you consider that Spidey never tried to stop a
****ing bullet with his hands before he did quite well
by catching one of them. With more confidence and
training he should have no problems to do suchs things.

Originally posted by jinzin
no.... actually he's not right.. wolverine was for all intents and purposes holding back there... look.. before the fight starts wolverine tells spidey to beat it... during the fight wolverine's trying to get spidey to scram, at the end of the fight wolverine tells spiderman he's in over his head... the whole time, wolverine wasn't trying to land blows... how do we know? simple, when he was missing the claws were out.. when he started to hit spiderman the claws went in.. he could have dropped spidey with that tackle, he could have killed him with the punch to the face, he would have ended him at the "stailmate" he didn't... he was holding back... we also know that wolverine could have hit spiderman because every h2h encounter they've had after that, he HAS hit spiderman not to mention the face that wolverine sat there and let spiderman wail away at his face.. 😬.... if DD can do it, and iron fist can do it, and shang chi can do it, and the white ninja can do it, and captain america can do it, and king pin can do it, and jason macendale can do it, and steel dragon can do it, and black panther can do it, and strong guy can do it, and etc etc etc etc etc.... then wolverine can do it, wolverine has DONE it, and in all likelyhood wolverine WOULD do it again, period...

Well you got some points, but I dont think he was holding back because Wolverine was trying to save Charlie from suffering. You said when he hit Spiderman the claws went in, Wolverine did not hit him once.

I find that FNS #1 picture to be ridiculous. Spidery HAS been shot before, and it hurt, but he still kept going. So what the hell is with that?

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
I find that FNS #1 picture to be ridiculous. Spidery HAS been shot before, and it hurt, but he still kept going. So what the hell is with that?

it´s a comic dont try to understand it.