Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by Soleran
Mean, not mean whatever works for you.

You're opinion of the scan has little value other then the fact it was done, and done in such a way as to leave little doubt that it could be repeated.

what are you talking about here?

no one doubts it could be repeated.. 🤨

I mean, if wolverine was just blasted by an omega level mutant twice, jumped off a rooftop, and was talking to spiderman with his claws sheethed, then spiderman jumped and started webbing the shit out of wolverine using two nearby walls from the alley way to incapacitate logan...

of COURSE spiderman could web him up again..

does that mean that he could in a fight?
no
in an arena setting?
no
against a wolverine who wasn't damaged and DID have his claws out?
no.

it's not about carver's opinion as you claim but about CONTEXT... which is totally being missed by you here.

Originally posted by Soleran
Wolverine doesn't have the mobility Spiderman does nor the long range attacks, in a city enviroment spiderman should take the majority.

Originally posted by jinzin
yeah see, this is why you need to either read the comics your referencing or the posts you're replying to...

carver asked for an example where spiderman webbed up logan in a FIGHT...

that wasn't a fight.. simple as.. ❌

I HAVE the comic. Though, I haven't read it now ever since I bought it.
However, since you now said it, I took time re-reading it. And yes it wasn't a fight. The scan, I just found here.

Simple as that.

Originally posted by jinzin

no one doubts it could be repeated.. 🤨

does that mean that he could in a fight?
no
in an arena setting?
no
against a wolverine who wasn't damaged and DID have his claws out?
no.

Another comment that makes me LOL, thanks.
Now once again take the time to go back and read my comments on why this webbing REGARDLESS of the situation holds weight.

it's not about carver's opinion as you claim but about CONTEXT... which is totally being missed by you here.

even that's debateable.

Once again let me help you with my analysis on that picture, actually no, I already typed it a few pages back so go back and READ IT carefully then come back with some more "context" clues, thanks.

Anything is "debateable" that's clearly evident especially in this thread.

Originally posted by Soleran
Another comment that makes me LOL, thanks.
Now once again take the time to go back and read my comments on why this webbing REGARDLESS of the situation holds weight.

no one said webbing didn't hold weight in this fight.. 😕

but does that example? no.. that's the point.

Originally posted by Soleran
Once again let me help you with my analysis on that picture, actually no, I already typed it a few pages back so go back and READ IT carefully then come back with some more "context" clues, thanks.

Anything is "debateable" that's clearly evident especially in this thread.

This thread needs to be on a 23 hour per day lock down. Something like a maximum security jail.

Am I the only one who finds Soleran's sig and avy to be a little bit disturbing?

Originally posted by Accel
Am I the only one who finds Soleran's sig and avy to be a little bit disturbing?

Stop drooling on it!

Originally posted by Accel
Am I the only one who finds Soleran's sig and avy to be a little bit disturbing?

Whoa. Didn't even give it a look at before but now...I gotta go to church.

Originally posted by jinzin
no one said webbing didn't hold weight in this fight.. 😕

but does that example? no.. that's the point.

aside from ignoring context I'm not even sure what you're reffering to.

Does it really matter the situation? How would the outcome be different if he was looking for a fight (ignoring the fact that one of the points by the Wolverine supporters is that Logan is close enough to Spidey in speed to be caught in by something like this)?

with claws out he could tarnish the webbing as it streamed in, and he could possibly never be hung up on the alley walls like that...

again something taskmaster's done, and bp. it's a HUGE option for wolverine to go with here...

or.. like stated before he could dodge, or bumrush...

in a fight situation any number of things could have happened, you know this...

it's a horrible example of a fighting situation because it wasn't a fight. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
with claws out he could tarnish the webbing as it streamed in, and he could possibly never be hung up on the alley walls like that...

again something taskmaster's done, and bp. it's a HUGE option for wolverine to go with here...

or.. like stated before he could dodge, or bumrush...

in a fight situation any number of things could have happened, you know this...

it's a horrible example of a fighting situation because it wasn't a fight. 😬

I just don't get it though. Wolverine is so fast that the speed advantage that Spider-Man has over him isn't a problem, yet he can't react in time to put up any sort of resistance, regardless of whether he was looking for a fight or not?

Originally posted by marvelprince
I just don't get it though. Wolverine is so fast that the speed advantage that Spider-Man has over him isn't a problem, yet he can't react in time to put up any sort of resistance, regardless of whether he was looking for a fight or not?

do you GET IT when Spiderman gets hit by loser thugs who're 100x slower than him?

Originally posted by marvelprince
I just don't get it though. Wolverine is so fast that the speed advantage that Spider-Man has over him isn't a problem, yet he can't react in time to put up any sort of resistance, regardless of whether he was looking for a fight or not?

Exactly my point, it's not like Wolverine got just an arm or a leg webbed.

If Wolverine is so fast and he has feats with his claws it wouldn't matter if they are out or not, really it's a nonfactor especially the way Wolverine fans have depicted the claws feats in the past.

do you GET IT when Spiderman gets hit by loser thugs who're 100x slower than him

No, as a matter of fact I don't and yet that has ABSOLUTELY no bearing on the discussion on the webbing here.

Originally posted by marvelprince
I just don't get it though. Wolverine is so fast that the speed advantage that Spider-Man has over him isn't a problem, yet he can't react in time to put up any sort of resistance, regardless of whether he was looking for a fight or not?

they were what, 2 feet from one another... spiderman had the advantage of wolverine not having his claws out, had the advantage of the alley walls, had the advantage that wolverine (and why do I keep having to explain this part?) got blasted by an OMEGA... TWICE....

and let's face it, even with spiderman's spider sense it's not as if he's never been sneaked attacked before.. cause.. he has.. even with his speed..

and without it, he's been sneak attacked A LOT, in spite of his speed..

Originally posted by jinzin
with claws out he could tarnish the webbing as it streamed in, and he could possibly never be hung up on the alley walls like that...

again something taskmaster's done, and bp. it's a HUGE option for wolverine to go with here...

or.. like stated before he could dodge, or bumrush...

in a fight situation any number of things could have happened, you know this...

it's a horrible example of a fighting situation because it wasn't a fight. 😬

You have a point, but there is something else to consider the fact that what does it actually take for Wolverine to pop his claws? Nothing at all, Why didn't he try popping them and trying to slash the webbing away, as everyone seems to think that Logan can cut the webbing even if it hits his hands.

And why are people saying Wolverine was ignoring Spider-man? He was talking to him, hell he was threatening him that if he didn't back down he would kill him. Also Spider-man didn't attack from behind like someone stated don't know where that came from. I know this isn't a fight but Logan should have at least had his guard up if he was threatening Peter and knew how dangerous that Mutant was.

All that said it would be different in a fight but by no way can anyone say Logan had his guard down because he wasn't and the claw excuse is just crap because he can pop the claws in like a second (or less) so I don't see wat that has to do with anything.

Logan didnt realize Spiderman would stop him from capturing the Omega. He didn't view Spidey as a threat or even an obstacle.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Logan didnt realize Spiderman would stop him from capturing the Omega. He didn't view Spidey as a threat or even an obstacle.

Evidently he did otherwise he wouldn't have told him to get out of his way, and the fact that Spidey carried the kid away from Logan before the webbing must have been a pretty good tip that Spidey didn't want Logan to get him. I mean come on your defending Logan but at the same time insulting his intelligence.

Originally posted by Sparkz
You have a point, but there is something else to consider the fact that what does it actually take for Wolverine to pop his claws? Nothing at all, Why didn't he try popping them and trying to slash the webbing away, as everyone seems to think that Logan can cut the webbing even if it hits his hands.

And why are people saying Wolverine was ignoring Spider-man? He was talking to him, hell he was threatening him that if he didn't back down he would kill him. Also Spider-man didn't attack from behind like someone stated don't know where that came from. I know this isn't a fight but Logan should have at least had his guard up if he was threatening Peter and knew how dangerous that Mutant was.

All that said it would be different in a fight but by no way can anyone say Logan had his guard down because he wasn't and the claw excuse is just crap because he can pop the claws in like a second (or less) so I don't see wat that has to do with anything.

the claws excuse as you call it isn't crap though.. how long was it before logan had his hands to his head?

assuming you're right about logan taking his time to pop his claws... doesn't that support the argument that he wasn't looking for a fight with spiderman?

I mean either he had his hands to his head so fast that claws were a moot point, or he had a gracious amount of time but refused to pop them and they're still a moot point....

in all honesty I don't have the answers here because everything is purely speculation but we do know 2 things..

one that wasn't a fight

and two when they have been in hostile situations and logan's had his claws out, the result was VERY VERY different.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Evidently he did otherwise he wouldn't have told him to get out of his way, and the fact that Spidey carried the kid away from Logan before the webbing must have been a pretty good tip that Spidey didn't want Logan to get him. I mean come on your defending Logan but at the same time insulting his intelligence.

Logan figured SPiderman just didn't know the situation. So he tries to explain to Spiderman and outta the blue gets webbed.

Originally posted by jinzin
the claws excuse as you call it isn't crap though.. how long was it before logan had his hands to his head?

assuming you're right about logan taking his time to pop his claws... doesn't that support the argument that he wasn't looking for a fight with spiderman?

I mean either he had his hands to his head so fast that claws were a moot point, or he had a gracious amount of time but refused to pop them and they're still a moot point....

in all honesty I don't have the answers here because everything is purely speculation but we do know 2 things..

one that wasn't a fight

and two when they have been in hostile situations and logan's had his claws out, the result was VERY VERY different.

I'm not really arguing the claws I'm just saying that the fact he dosn't have them out means his guard is down is a crap excuse because well it's not like the claws give him all of his abilities or anything, they just make his punches hurt, maybe he thought if he had the sheathed he could talk Spider-man down, but at the same time he must have been expecting some sort of counter attack after his threat.

But as you said at the end of the day it wasn't a fight and in a fight Logan would be more focused on Spider-man to let him web him so easily, not that Spider-man couldn't web him but by no means it wouldn't be a one shot hit like in that "fight".

Originally posted by Sparkz
I'm not really arguing the claws I'm just saying that the fact he dosn't have them out means his guard is down is a crap excuse because well it's not like the claws give him all of his abilities or anything, they just make his punches hurt, maybe he thought if he had the sheathed he could talk Spider-man down, but at the same time he must have been expecting some sort of counter attack after his threat.

But as you said at the end of the day it wasn't a fight and in a fight Logan would be more focused on Spider-man to let him web him so easily, not that Spider-man couldn't web him but by no means it wouldn't be a one shot hit like in that "fight".

see here's the thing his claws are what gets him OUT of webbing... if he didn't have them out well.. 😬

it doesn't say much about what would happen to a wolverine WITH his claws.. ya know?