Another bombing in Iraq

Crash_Overload, you're right.

Yes you kids DO waste a lot,
so my advice is to stop saying 'whatever' to everything, and go from there and try to work to make the world better. It's not going to happen if we sit here and bicker like this or wait for the world to become a legalized drug free zone under a groove....and yes I have the right to put down drug abuse too because many of my people have suffered and died from it. But that's another story.

You have to understand-I don't want to hear anythng bad about MY homeland any morethan you do YOURS.

But the fact of the matter is, is that French, and more lately French Canadians, and Canadians in general, have been unnecessarily nasty to the U.S. And we are ****ing sick and tired of it......you wonder why you get it back?

Just stop, and try to see that yes, America MAY have had the wrong execution of the right idea, but this is where allies come into play-the true meaning of an ally is someone who sticks by you thick and thin (hello and thank you England!)

Your neighbor falls down, or suffers a tragedy, you help pick him up and give him the help he needs to get him on his feet again.

In 1956, America brought France's economy back from ruin, and all we got was shit and shoved in it, no thank you, nothing.

And if you don't believe me, look up the article entitled "America, The Good neighbor," by one time Toronto journalist Gordon Sinclair. You can find it on the 'Net. And don't be swayed by the naysayers who pass it off as speculation, because I have a copy of the actual editorial, and it DID exist.

It may be 32 years old or so, but points toward the trend of Anti-Americanism we see today. And alot of it for no reason I might add.

I'm going to stop here, because this has gone far enough. The street runs both ways, and noone is getting anywhere.

Part of being smart is knowing when you're wrong, and I DO apologize for my statements, but look at how much America has been through, and the way everyone has added their own brand of insult to injury. Anger usually happens for a reason, and this is one of those reasons. you can't criticize someone they way WE'VE been getting it w\o getting it back. It dosen't work that way.

You say you're not like the others, well neither are ost Americans. You insult us, we fight back, and then you ask why you got bitten. Prove to us that some people appreciate us, just don't say it.

You KNOW we've helped people as well. It's just that all the bad is more popular than the good because it makes better headlines. And everyone buys it.

And all the while we fight and bicker, the real threat continues to grow, and if we don't band together, they win.

Another decade, another century: re-rite history, or repeat it. The world's choice.

Originally posted by Crash_Overload
*Shakes D.B.'s Hand*

*Accepts and also gives C.O. a hug,because there's not enough to go around.*

Work together man, not separate. We can do it.

awhhh, promise myself cry I would not

maybe the arabs and jews will get along next. if crash and dragon can get along anyone can.

Yes i agree. On a lighter note,

You shoudl check out Canada's army. Air Force = 16 F -18 and 1 goose with a six shooter. no more
Navy = 2 Subs. 4 don't work
Ground Force = Well many people Wearing GREEN camo suits in the desert. AND ye old WWI guns.

canada doesn't need an army as long as your near the US. we'll take care of the army for the world

Well to recap the whole thing.... yes, I'm a bit older than
some at the boards and have more intricate knowledge in some cases,-and when C.O. and I insulted each other, I could have just kept going on and on and on insulting him and making him feel worse.

But I DIDN'T. I explained to him the anger and hurt
that comes with being American, and the fact that many Americans are tired of hearing all this bashing.

I tried to make him understand, and to see just what we live with by giving it back. The only way to appreciate the other guy's cup of tea is to taste it right? Nothing personal.

I think this sets me apart from the average gung ho "America all the way" types because I have self control, which is something that many have truly forgotten about. I could have went on hurtinghim, but I didn't.

Just remember I knew when to quit, and when to reconcile. And remember that you have met an American who isn't afraid to admit his wrongs, or work with his neighbors.

You have to understand the real deal here:

9-11 was a wakeup call that showed us that we STILL have the spirit to pull together. Many volunteered and because of their efforts, N.Y. saved 3 BILLION dollars in cleanup and removed the wreckage 8 months ahead of time.

And I'll remind you that I WITNESSED the attacks that day. So I have reasons. Strong ones. You watch 2 planes hit 2 towers, and you watch people die from jumping out of the buildings, watch them collapse, and you tell me how YOU would feel.

We succeeded because we pulled together-
and that's ALL that most Americans are asking from our allies, to do the same. Instead, it comes down to what happened here between me and O.C. but only on a larger basis and inthe end, it we don't work together, we're all going to be sorry.

Yes the other countries may not want involvement, but just think about every person from every nation that were killed on 9-11, as being not only American, but your own respective countrymen as well as being French-American, Canadian-American, whatever. Because they ARE.

The enemy has shown their total disregard for human life,and I for one think it's time we stopped kissing their asses and taught them that decent people can fight back just as well, and win.

But again, it won't happen if we sit and do nothing. We won2 2 world wars because we all worked together, and we can with The War On Terror too, if we work together.

When the going gets tough, the tough get going, so get on the train and let's move!

If the American Indian can make lemonade out of 500 year old lemons, we can win this war with no problem. Just don't give up!!

OK I'm done. Time to replenish the oxygen level 😉

Peace out, I love you all, and if you haven't forgotten, you are all still mitakuye ouyasin- "All my brothers and sisters."

DB
aka

John River Snake

btw-you never use your warrior name because it's believed the magic will run out of you use it too much, but after this I feel you guys should know who you're talking to 😉

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa! What the hell is all this? For a start, why was a serious thread about a particular subject opened, in all places, in the off-topic area???

Secondly, please, no political debates oin these forums- precisely because of the horrendous bad feeling they can cause.

Moving this to the GDF, and closing.