Pop stars who want to be "cool"....so they pretend like they are punk......

Does anybody else get annoyed when they see Blink 182, Sum 41, Good Charlotte, Avril Levigne, or any of these other cute little pop acts?.........god they get on my nerves.

They are all tatted up.......their hair is dyed blue.......heads are shaved with mohawks........pierced all over wearing leather and chains..........

I get all psyched.......these guys look hardcore.......I think I'll give them a listen to......

then they grab the mic and bust into a pop song.......whining about this......singing about crap 12 year old girls care about......all while keeping on key to their crappy little pop melody........

Some of these bands I mentioned actually call themselves punk? Okay.....I know that their twelve year old female audiences don't know what punk is because they are too young and just think punk is cool but c'mon.........who do these bands think they are fooling? Don't they realize that every other person on this earth who isn't a twelve year old girl is laughing at them?

By the way........when did A.F.I. start sucking? I used to love A.F.I........that was punk..........anyway, I catch their video being played the other day, and this was NOT punk.......it was some slow sappy song. God........must everybody sell their soul for a gold album?

Next time you see some little kid with a red mohawk wearing a "Good Charlotte" t shirt .......tell him to go buy a Sex Pistols, Germs, Misfits, Corporate Avenger t-shirt so he won't be laughed at by his unknowing sponsorship of corporate pop.

I think the problem is that bands like Blink 182 et al see themselves as the new version of punk because they've got a similar image. Although I haven't seen many of their fans walking around sporting a proper mohawk, bomber jacket, and safety pin through their noses attached to a chain, fixed to their ear piercings!

image has nothing to do with it..........surely they know thier music is just plain ol' pop music..........I think they use their image to try to convince 12 year old girls that "we're what punk is and punk is cool so we're cool" because those little girls don't know any better.

I mean c'mon.........Johnny Rotten is probably one of the most punk, I don't give a fuck about anybody else people who has ever lived..........he used to wear teddy boy suits with neckties........image has nothing to do with it.......it's about the music.......and those bands are pop music straight up.

It is because 12 year olds spend a lot of their parents money on the music
For the industry it is all about the money, always has, always will

Sad thing is that these bands were like this before they were part of "the industry"...........I've seen those "before they were stars" type segments on VH1 and MTV before on Sum 41 and Good Charlotte.......they were the same bands when they were nobodies playing in their garage..........the industry didn't change them (coughgreendaycough)..........I think these people so desperately want to be thought of as cool so they pretend to be something they aren't.........

Word!

anyone who makes a statement with their look is a poswer to me, if they were intelegent they could make said statement with their words. the.

Why must everyone think they're "generic" and/or "made up" by the music industry. Everyone ASSUMES this about all these bands. Um here's a NEW thought THEY LIKE TO PLAY THAT TYPE OF MUSIC AND THEY LIKE TO WEAR THAT TYPE OF CLOTHING, AND THEY LIKE TO SING ABOUT THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

And their music lives on in other bands because kids hear them, like them, and want to play like them. so they do that, then a new band starts, they may or may not become popular and the cycle continues. This happens with all genres of music.

people say that because they seem to be following a trend. one band will come out with a certain style and look, then alot of other bands will conviniently emerge from obscurity for a few months, singing about the same tired subjects all at the same time. then another fadd will come about and all the members of the previous fadd will fade back into obscurity, you cant help but think that they were simply processed by the music companies to capitolize one whatever current trend is 'in'. thats why teh good bands last for years and years, metalica, korn, tool, slayer, pantera, they are orginals and were never made in order to cater to the popularity of their genre.

Um again bands are "made to cater to the popularity of the genre" people listen to a certain band, they like it and can relate to it so they decide to follow in that type of music. And EVERY band sings about the same subject over time. It's their type of music. A lot of the music in the 60's (you know the hippy fade) sings about a lot of the same shit, but yet this music is considered original and great music. This is just a new generation with a new sound and new issues that they want to address. That simple

yet the sound is not new, the issues are not new. if bands arent created in order to capitolize on the popularity of a current fad, then explain blink 182, good charlette, linkin park and other bands that have no distinctive qualities. they were all produced by the music companies to make money, nothing more, too put it another way, if it werent for the popularity of the type of music they play, they would not have a career, because most of them do not have any real talent, other then copying a sound that already exists. and no, good bands do not sing about the same subject over and over, the bands that do have no depth and range.

Where's your proof that blink-182, good charlotte, linkin park and "other bands" were manufactored by the music industry? Oh you have none, cause it's all ASSUMPTIONS because you don't like the music...oh ok.

Oh and did you know that a few years back good charlotte wasn't even heard of, and did you know that blink-182 had albums before enema of the state, or even dude ranch(i know you know this, i'm just making a point) these bands didn;t get popular off their first album. Fans found their music and THEN they became popular because people liked them. That simple

they became popular because mtv played their music and they deemed them as "buzzworthy". im well aware that many of the bands werent well known from the start, what i am saying. they were however forced into the publics eye because of the popularity of their genre. and something you need to learn at your young age, popularity does not make a band good. some of the best bands are not popular, because they do not want to sell out and whore themselves to mtv in order to make money, making good music is what they are interested in, not making money.

...dude, something you need to learn is that just because a band becomes popular doesn't mean they "sold out." "selling out" is such a overused and dumbass term. And again the only evidence to back up saying a "band sold out" is assumptions about the band, and assumptions aren't facts/evidence. Therefore your argument has no credibility

you're right, not all bands that are popular sell out, however, bands that get played on mtv contantly in order to get popular are sell outs. mtv has pretty much all the power over what is popular and what isnt. if you want facts, here it is, blink 182 got populer when they went on mtv and SOLD OUT in order to get popular, if they had any confidence or respect for themselves musically, they would have done it the same way tool or korn or slayer or pantera did, by relying on word of mouth from fans of their music. linkin park is the same, they got popular as soon as mtv said they were buzzworthy and started playing their videos nonstop because the genre of the music the bands happened to make was popular. heres a question for you, do you think good charllete, blink 182 or linkin park would be as popular as they are if it werent to mtv? no of course not. they knew that their band didnt stand out in any particular way, and that hardcore fans of their genre wouldnt buy them, so they needed to reach out to the mediocre fans through mtv in order to get a name.

Um I heard of linkin park, blink-182 way before they were played on mtv, and loved them. I also bought the first good charlotte cd(also way before they were played on mtv) Mtv is watched by millions yes. And it's a way for bands to become popular. Now why do you say they "sold out?" Did they change their music to become popular? Their's only a few people who can answer that. And that's the people in the band. And that's your only outlook for FACTS, everything else is just heresay.

you seem to be missing my point, whether or not they changed their music is irrelevent. the fact that they relied soley on mtv to become popular, completely giving up on word of mouth shows me that they dont have belief in their musical ability. it makes me think that they felt they needed mtv to become popular, rather then letting their music or their fans spread their name. plus, there are no facts in this discussion, so stop using that as a defense, it is irrelevent.

Exactly their are no facts. It's not a defense it's logic. You can't make a valid statement about how these bands "suck" and i can't make a valid statement about how they "don't suck." I like the bands(along with a lot of others), you don't like the bands(along with a lot of others) so why do we constantly keep having to trash other people's music. I only trash others musics when my music gets trashed.

And again how do you know that these bands relied on mtv to get popular? Do you have any FACTS that they didn't also rely on word of mouth.

yes, because they got popular as soon as mtv started playing their music. plus all my statements have been valid, but you dont have any defense for these bands other then asking me to state facts, which dont exist. thus i am defending my opinion so you can understand why i say the things i do about the bands, which you seem to be conveniently ignoring in order to ask for facts. if you were a good debater you could make statements about why these bands dont suck, other then asking for facts that arent there

...DUDE! LOOK WHAT YOU JUST WROTE..."FACTS THAT AREN'T THERE" !!! EXACTLY! You can't defend jack squat without facts man. You think the bands suck, but that doesn't mean they actually suck. I think the bands are great, but that doesn't mean they actually are great.