Celsius's Debate thread!

Started by LindsIsTightK8 pages

I am not the only American who thinks that way. I know this because I live in America and get americans perspectives. The fact of that matter, is that everyone all wants something that will benefit them in the long run, it's not just me. So maybe Americans are selfish, but I guess we are doing something right seeing as how we are the world power

Originally posted by Dexx
thsi is you talking becuase you already have a place within a efficient country. i am not anti-american, as i said. i am anti bush
I'm not so sure about those wise decisions there. America HAS done some remarcable things, wich should recieve credit, indeed.....but there is a part reserved for wrecklessness and sheer luck 😉

Yes, i do have a place within an efficient country, but like i said, if immigrants are willing to work when they enter this country, rather then relying on welfare money from the government and the people(immagrint or not) who actually work their ass off to make a living, they should not have to pay money so foreigners who are to lazy to get a job and pay for their own way, should not be allowed to enter this country just so they can lay on their butt.

as i said before, no country is near perfection, but you cant hold mistakes of the past against a country, especially when most of the people no wliving in america are part of a new generation that has nothing to do with the mistakes of the past.

Originally posted by Dexx
canada is more meant for imigrators..
I dindn't say america is selfish..i said YOU are slefish for thinking that way.
Don't be so proud to say you've been learned american ways and bla bla..what i hear you say is : "i've been brainwashed"

as have most of the rest of teh world with their anti america hatred. america is no better, nor any worse then any other country. it is a damn fine place to live though.

Originally posted by Dexx
canada is more meant for imigrators..
I dindn't say america is selfish..i said YOU are slefish for thinking that way.
Don't be so proud to say you've been learned american ways and bla bla..what i hear you say is : "i've been brainwashed"

lol, i do agree with this point. We hear all this crap in the media and from politicians and shit about what america stands for and why we're great. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, diversity etc etc...Wake up folks we're not the only country with these things. Many other countries have these aspects, i'm not saying the diversity is on such a scale as ours but it's definetly a significant part of other countries. Freedom of speech and religion/beliefs may have been a "revolutionary" idea in the past but now so many other countries have these features. It's becoming something of a given for world countries to have these ideals. Yes it's true, a lot don't, but a lot do also.

Originally posted by LindsIsTightK
I am not the only American who thinks that way. I know this because I live in America and get americans perspectives. The fact of that matter, is that everyone all wants something that will benefit them in the long run, it's not just me. So maybe Americans are selfish, but I guess we are doing something right seeing as how we are the world power

yes i agree, people get caught up in thinking that we're this self-absorbed arrogant country, well newsflash so are tons of other countries.
And 100% of all countries act in their own interest, and if it benefits other countries as a side thing then sure why not.

and you can thank america as one of the countries who made it possible and welcomed that other countries feel this way.

Originally posted by BackFire349
as have most of the rest of teh world with their anti america hatred. america is no better, nor any worse then any other country. it is a damn fine place to live though.

it is a better country...that is clear. it is a good place to live. just not the best, in my opinion.

Originally posted by BackFire349
and you can thank america as one of the countries who made it possible and welcomed that other countries feel this way.

yes, and that is for damn sure. It was US who made it a revolutionary idea, and we just rule for it(literally!) But these terms are overused and over-appreciated.

there is no "best" place to live.

Originally posted by Dexx
it is a better country...that is clear. it is a good place to live. just not the best, in my opinion.

yeah in my opinon though it is the best place to live in (not to say that i have lived any place else) -i pick any country to live in that has the worlds greatest military. we'll kick anyone's ass

No country is perfect, they all have their imperfections. It just depends on the person and what imperfections they are willing to accept to be able to make a good living and be happy with their lives.

Originally posted by BackFire349
there is no "best" place to live.

you're right. There's not universal "best" place to live. But to individual people they are places that they consider the best. To each his own

oh..that is childish, 113..don't think fo it as a whole. The true power, today, are alliances...not ONLY your own power. A 4 megaton warhead could whipe clean out the city of LA...(and i mean clean out). russia has some 19 megatons warheads. imagine what those can do. kicking ass is not the ultimate solution. diplomacy is. bush is NOT a diplomant

Originally posted by BackFire349
there is no "best" place to live.

statisticly speaking..yes it is. Sweeden, Germany..these good places to live in

i agree, violence should be a last resort. and statistics cant be trusted, as tehy are changing so constantly.

yup...but there's a margin of consistency

**** this shit i dont care waht everyone thinks about this war all i can say is that i would luv to go over there and show them what a true cowboy is all about cause if i was 18 i wouldnt have ne problem going to that country and killing ne of those iraqin army dudes that got in the way of me our my country we r a dumb country we always help the under developed countries get bak on there feet after we kick the shit out of them i always think leave em there to get back on there feet by them selves cause america got were it was by its own nickel and dime we fought to get rid of our bad leader during the revolutionary war and we did it by our selves so i say if iraq isnt botehring us then i say let samdam kill of his people i dont giv two shits about them but the day that sadam points a wepon in our direction is the day we interfer and i bet sadam had sumthing planned for us before this war

Goddamnit, you and other people always have to resort to personel attacks...may i ask WHY? Stop calling me childish, they're my opinions and i stick to them. I'm not attacking you for yours.

And i'm not an idiot, i know that Russia has thousands of more nuclear warheads than we do. But is Russia as wealthy as us? No it's not. It can't afford to put in as much money as we do into our military. It's not just nuclear weapons that we have a lot of. We maintain our global power through innovative new technologies that we come up with and distribute to our military on a wide scale. Money is everything when it comes to issues such as these. And plus if the US and Russia broke out into a real war we would still win, even with thousands of less nuclear weapons. And to me, everything is about asskicking ok.

well i doubt germany was the best place to live 60 years ago. i know this is stretching it, but it just goes to show how extreme a countries change can be, and besides, those may be the nicest and domestically safest places to live, they may also be the easiest to attack as well, america has a well roundedness to it.. it is relatively safe, it is not very likely of a nuclear attack or an attack of any large magnitude, and it is very prosperous.

Originally posted by DeNiro
**** this shit i dont care waht everyone thinks about this war all i can say is that i would luv to go over there and show them what a true cowboy is all about cause if i was 18 i wouldnt have ne problem going to that country and killing ne of those iraqin army dudes that got in the way of me our my country we r a dumb country we always help the under developed countries get bak on there feet after we kick the shit out of them i always think leave em there to get back on there feet by them selves cause america got were it was by its own nickel and dime we fought to get rid of our bad leader during the revolutionary war and we did it by our selves so i say if iraq isnt botehring us then i say let samdam kill of his people i dont giv two shits about them but the day that sadam points a wepon in our direction is the day we interfer and i bet sadam had sumthing planned for us before this war

I'll say it again, Saddam could never have even come close to successfully attacking us.

113 is right hinestly dex i find ur opinions ****in dumb as shit i dont like em but this is the first time i am actully saying shit about them ur not even from america and ur talkin like u were born and bred 114 has his own responses and his own feels towards this i would care what he was talkin about if he was infact anti war wich i am thinking he is not cause if he was i would be callin him dumb but ne way viloence is the only way to deal with people like that