New Trailer

Everyone> No, we did not recieve info about the ending. I can say this with assertiveness, b/c i have been talking to standstill and, i am just going to tell it. AlteredFate is her friend, and told her that he had seen the Matrix 3. She, by some way or another, happened up here, and said, mistakenly, that she had seen M3, rather than "knows of" M3. Thus, it was her fault, for poor choice of words, but she was also misinformed, and AlteredFate has already apologized in this forum for his actions. Everyone, just forget about standstill, b/c she will no longer be returning to this forum, partly b/c of the "attention" that was recieved by certain individuals (whom i will not name at this time). And, i do not want to hear ANYTHING about her being a coward, or a lier. ANYTHING.

Urot> Now, about Operation DARK STORM. I dont think they have "all" of human history in thier databanks, i think they have the history that was given to them, ie history books, writings, etc. They would not know how Operation DARK STORM happened, if the documents were classified, and then destroyed when the machines started attacking.

If you ascribe to the MWTM theory, then, the sky scorching is just another program, another form of control, control of Humans, so that they do not just build Zion anywhere, on ground, rather than in predetermined underground Zion place.

The Wachowskis would NOT have gone through all the trouble to give us all the history to the Matrix and how it was built etc and then shove that all on its head so it is meaningless. Zion is Zion, which is real. No other multiple levels etc, just the Real World.

Ok...

this just gets more anmd more exciting!! 😊

JediHDM> Thanks for the info about Standstil, cuz I was wondering how authentic her version of M3 was. It was just to freaky to be the truth.

Sifer> After seeing the new trailers I don't think that there is a MWTM.
If you read my other post about Neo making it to the "Speak" machine on his own. He had on the red blindfold, and as I stated before that let me know that the "real world" is the "Real World". Not another level of the Matrix.

Two things about the new trailers:
1) First is that Neo realizes that Human and Machine must work together to have a future,
2) Anyone notice that Neo and Smith are so powerful that when they hit each other, it sends shockwaves out, powerful enough to push the rain BACK in a huge wave?

OMG!!!!!!!!! These are GREAT! I watched "The End" like 40 times....it's sad 🙁

it wouldn't download for me, it was just a big black picture with two moving black squares for two seconds then it finished, ne1 got ne pics?

you can right click and click "save to..." and download it, instead of opening it.

meh. i want 2 c some pics 1st

JediHDM> Hehehe... I noticed too. All I can say is, "Well, there you have it."

Urot> Why are you sure there is no MWTM now? Not to say I have a different opinion, but I was just wondering why you have yours. Couldn't Neo still be in another matrix, even though he seems injured? I don't know why I'm asking. I guess I'm just curious because people ask me to defend my arguement all the time. I was wondering what you guys have as evidence. Maybe I can present it to these folks.

JediHDM (again) > Where do you stand (I gather you believe in MWTM) and do these new trailers change that?

SimplePriest> No, these trailers enhance, IMO, my idea/theory; MWTM. When i see Bane turn into Smith right before Neo, i see proof. When i see Neo stopping entire swarms of squidy bombs with his mind, i see proof. When i see a squisy flying through/into Neo, i see proof. Quite simply, i believe that the Zion world, henceforth ZION, is a programmed reality, given to those who do not accept the Matrix programming. "What is [ZION]? Control. [ZION] is a computer generated Dream-world, built to keep us under control"

Originally posted by JediHDM
SimplePriest> No, these trailers enhance, IMO, my idea/theory; MWTM. When i see Bane turn into Smith right before Neo, i see proof. When i see Neo stopping entire swarms of squidy bombs with his mind, i see proof. When i see a squisy flying through/into Neo, i see proof. Quite simply, i believe that the Zion world, henceforth ZION, is a programmed reality, given to those who do not accept the Matrix programming. "What is [ZION]? Control. [ZION] is a computer generated Dream-world, built to keep us under control"

I don't think Bane turns into Smith persay. what he says to Neo is "Look past the Flesh to see your Enemy" And what I got from that was that Neo saw his code. Not Bane turning/changing/morphing into Smith.

JediHDM> hmmm. Would you feel duped if it turned out to be another explanation > he is connected with the matrix even if he's not in it. He has really become The One, and can change things as he sees fit (blow squiddy bombs up, stop squiddies in their tracks).

Basically, does your idea make so much sense to you that no other ideas would make sense, OR it would seem like a cheap cop out. (I'm only asking because for a long while I felt that way about the MWAM theory). BTW I asked you specifically because you seem to explain your arguments well, and you seem like you have given them a lot of thought.

SimplePriest> The point of the ONE was that he could change the PROGRAMMING of the Matrix, no just use telepathy. If the Wachowski brothers do not go the way i see it, but they do it better than i have thought the MWAM theory out, then i will think, man these guys are geniuses. However, if it is poorly thoughtout, (which seems to be the general explanation of the reverse), then yes, i will be disappointed. However, i do not think the Wachowskis able to think simply, so i believe i will be amazed either way. Also, thank you, i try my best to explain myself in such a way as to "convert the masses".

VenomVA> We have seen two clips, one is where Bane says "Look past the flesh to see your enemy"and turns into the fiery,glowing Smith , and the other is the Fiery, glowing-code Smith turning into SMITH persona. My mind sees these two clips and thinks, well, the first looks like it is the first part of the second, and i put them together. Therefore, i think Neo looks at BAne, sees the code of Smith, which then in turn Materializes into Smith.

JediHDM> "Seems like every time we meet I've got nothing but [questions]. I'm sorry about that, I surely am. But for what it's worth, you've made a believer out of me."

SimplePriest> "Thank you"

(Every time i think of this, it changes the way i think, so i may change my mind, but i thought of this, so i am posting) When Neo and Trin are flying (supposedly towards 01), Neo puts the blindfold on, but it appears that he can see Trin, meaning he has not been blinded by Bane (as of yet) But when Neo talks to the "SPEAK"-machine, he looks like his face has been scarred/bruised (his face around the eyes, it is red). This means either it is not Bane who causes him to go blind(if he does indeed go blind) or that Neo goes blind on the way to 01, after beating the squidy bombs. This new information changes my format of thought, but the thought is still there, until new info. discredits it.

can someone give me a direct link to the BRAND NEW TRAILOR that everyone is talking about. a direct link meaning a link right to the download of the trailor. that would be great if someone could do that. thanks.

JediHDM> Well, if standstill never saw the M3, and said that she did, that IS lying. Not to be a pain or anything, but it is. But let’s just leave that behind us for now, and yet another weekly “I know it all”. You guys and gals out here DO know we’ll get even more now, when there’s only 50 days left, right?
Be vigilant! 😄

I’ve watched the new trailers backwards and forwards, and from side to side (well, ok, not the latter). I already said we should take them with a grain of salt. Some of the scenes are clearly NOT done yet, but are raw animation sketches.
So the blue sky behind the Logos: Well, let’s just wait and see. However, it may be, that after hundreds of years, the scorching went away? Or did that in SOME places? It doesn’t look as if the Logos is above some blackened level of the atmosphere, but we shouldn’t discount that idea altogether.

The biggest “noodle-baker” is the image where Neo seems to “SEE” that Smith is hiding in Bane through that golden light, and the scene where golden-looking tentacles lash out at a blindfolded Neo.
Something struck me, that we haven’t discussed before. It could be a solution. I adhere to Zion being real, so Neo stopping the sentinels has been the biggest mystery for me since May. With the new trailers we see, really see, Neo stopping more sentinels while he’s blindfolded. And he’s obviously able to SEE machine-code in the real world. HOW is that possible? And WHY is he blindfolded when confronting the SPEAK-machine?
We’ve eliminated countless options, so in Sherlock Holmes style, what is left, however improbable, must be the truth. Neo somehow downloaded a copy of the Source. Or parts of it.

Before you discount it, consider this: Smith downloaded a copy of himself into Bane. Bane was NOT the One. Now imagine what you could download into the MIND of the One. Essentially a part of the Matrix has been IN Neo since M1, namely the anomaly code. It doesn’t go away just because he disconnects from the Matrix, because WHERE would it go. Look at what exactly Neo DID when he flew from the building leading to the Architect to catch Trinity, and what he was able to do.

Neo now has double-vision, hence the blindfold. And that is why he can see the machine code in Bane.

Omega> i agree that if we discount all other possibilities, then the last one must be true, but all other possibilities have NOT been discounted, and we dont know if the one that is left is the only one that is left. I still have not recieved valid proof for why the MWAM theory is invalid.