OK Guys, before you get all caught up in you're Ron and Hermione nonsense... many of those quotes are taken out of context. And shippy evidence on POA?!!! POA was the biggest H/Hr movie to date, were you all asleep during the time turner scene? Did you miss Harry and Hermione holding hands as they were running, her falling on him, Harry protecting her from Lupin. And oh, one more thing about POA: Harry and Hermione ride together on the hippogriff as they save it's life, a hippogriff is a symbol of love. And where is ron? in the hospital, nowhere near them. We all know how careful JKR is with her writing, she's not going to miss the fact that a hippogroff represents love. Harry and Hermione share a bond that I dont think Ron could ever have with hermione (dont get me wrong, i love ron, but i dont see him and hermione working).
And also, you say most of the Ron/Hermione evidence is on GOF, well why doesnt it progesss to more and being more prominent in OOTP? You'd think if it was important it would be going on in more then one book, and be mounting to more and more, rather then dying off. OOTP has a ton of Harry and Hermione moments and things. Maybe I'll post those, we'll see.
But, there's also a lot of R/Hr moments, too.
The hippogriff is a good point, the best I've heard so far, but does that mean that Sirius is in love with himself? After all, he rode Buckbeak by himself. And Harry and Hermione do have a very special relationship, one that is very platonic, as JKR has said herself.
And (I happen to be watching it right now) when Hermione falls on Harry, she apologizes, like if she fell on one of her girl friends. She never apologizes to Ron in a situation like that. And in the book when Hermione kisses Ron, he dwells on it. When she kisses Harry, he doesn't even think about it. And she's the one who always stays with Ron when he gets hurt. And, we know that in all the odd numbered books, Ron gets hurt. (That might lead to the whole "Ron's gonna die in the seventh book" thing.)
I can see why people think Harry and Hermy are going to hook up, but I just think that if you pay careful attention to JK's interviews and clues, you really see that Hermione and Ron are going to be together.
ok first of all 😮💨
Go KK dave, handling and fighting all these rhr shippers as if they surely know rhr will really end up w/ each other
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JK Rowling even said in an interview that harry and hermione only have a platonic relationship.
Jkr said that so long ago, and when she's asked again now she has a different answer, or she doesnt want to say wat will happen
And in an interview with Rupert and Emma, they were aksed if they were going to kiss in the fourth movie or something. (not even in the book, but you never know) and they said no, but they did have a scene where they hugged but it was clipped out for being too "foreshadowing". if that's not perfect evidence, I don't know what is.
All the movies really are so on with the rhr, isnt it obvious, all the handholding and all the tension
hey all ron fans, pay attention to Luna, its obvious in buk 5 that she likes ron, hmm. weasley is her king hahaha, wonder why Jkr made that girl in buk 5
And also, you say most of the Ron/Hermione evidence is on GOF, well why doesnt it progesss to more and being more prominent in OOTP? You'd think if it was important it would be going on in more then one book, and be mounting to more and more, rather then dying off. OOTP has a ton of Harry and Hermione moments and things. Maybe I'll post those, we'll see
youre the best, hahaha, right, immaturity and jealousy is not the best attitude on Ron,
Originally posted by KKdave
OK Guys, before you get all caught up in you're Ron and Hermione nonsense... many of those quotes are taken out of context. And shippy evidence on POA?!!! POA was the biggest H/Hr movie to date, were you all asleep during the time turner scene? Did you miss Harry and Hermione holding hands as they were running, her falling on him, Harry protecting her from Lupin. And oh, one more thing about POA: Harry and Hermione ride together on the hippogriff as they save it's life, a hippogriff is a symbol of love. And where is ron? in the hospital, nowhere near them. We all know how careful JKR is with her writing, she's not going to miss the fact that a hippogroff represents love. Harry and Hermione share a bond that I dont think Ron could ever have with hermione (dont get me wrong, i love ron, but i dont see him and hermione working).
And also, you say most of the Ron/Hermione evidence is on GOF, well why doesnt it progesss to more and being more prominent in OOTP? You'd think if it was important it would be going on in more then one book, and be mounting to more and more, rather then dying off. OOTP has a ton of Harry and Hermione moments and things. Maybe I'll post those, we'll see.
Well if you didn't care to notice Ron and Hermione were holding hands at the scene where harry tried to pet the hippogriff. get that. hippogriff, being near the hippogriff as well as on it would be a sign of love, as well. and who did hermione put her arms around when they thought Buckbeak's head was chopped off? Ron and there's that hippogriff, again. By the way, even the creators of the film think Ron and hermione like eachother.
Originally posted by KKdave
OK Guys, before you get all caught up in you're Ron and Hermione nonsense... many of those quotes are taken out of context. And shippy evidence on POA?!!! POA was the biggest H/Hr movie to date, were you all asleep during the time turner scene? Did you miss Harry and Hermione holding hands as they were running, her falling on him, Harry protecting her from Lupin. And oh, one more thing about POA: Harry and Hermione ride together on the hippogriff as they save it's life, a hippogriff is a symbol of love. And where is ron? in the hospital, nowhere near them. We all know how careful JKR is with her writing, she's not going to miss the fact that a hippogroff represents love. Harry and Hermione share a bond that I dont think Ron could ever have with hermione (dont get me wrong, i love ron, but i dont see him and hermione working).
And also, you say most of the Ron/Hermione evidence is on GOF, well why doesnt it progesss to more and being more prominent in OOTP? You'd think if it was important it would be going on in more then one book, and be mounting to more and more, rather then dying off. OOTP has a ton of Harry and Hermione moments and things. Maybe I'll post those, we'll see.
I was getting to the OOTP clues. just don't lose your head.
Originally posted by Ananbelle
But, there's also a lot of R/Hr moments, too.
The hippogriff is a good point, the best I've heard so far, but does that mean that Sirius is in love with himself? After all, he rode Buckbeak by himself. And Harry and Hermione do have a very special relationship, one that is very platonic, as JKR has said herself.
And (I happen to be watching it right now) when Hermione falls on Harry, she apologizes, like if she fell on one of her girl friends. She never apologizes to Ron in a situation like that. And in the book when Hermione kisses Ron, he dwells on it. When she kisses Harry, he doesn't even think about it. And she's the one who always stays with Ron when he gets hurt. And, we know that in all the odd numbered books, Ron gets hurt. (That might lead to the whole "Ron's gonna die in the seventh book" thing.)
I can see why people think Harry and Hermy are going to hook up, but I just think that if you pay careful attention to JK's interviews and clues, you really see that Hermione and Ron are going to be together.
I completely agree with you ananbelle.
here's an OOTP quote:
On their way downstairs they met Hermione. "Thanks for the book, Harry!" she said happily. "I've been wanting that New Theory of Numerology for ages! And that perfume is really unusual, Ron."
now why would ron not buy her a book as well? Everyone knows Hermione likes books, so why would Ron give her perfume? Maybe because he wants to show his affections for her by giving her something other than books for once.
Here's another quote that's one of my favorites:
"Don't let Ron see what's on those Slytherin's badges," she whispered urgently.
Harry looked questioningly at her, but she shook her head warningly; Ron had just ambled over to them, looking lost and desparate.
"Good luck, Ron," said Hermione, standing on tiptoe and kissing him on the cheek. "And you, Harry --"
Ron seemed to come to himself slightly as they walked back across the Great Hall. He touched the spot on his face where Hermione had kissed him, looking puzzled, as though he was not quite sure what had just happened.
hm. now how often do you see Hermione kissing ron on the cheek? She somehow knew that would affect him in some way that he wouldn't notice the badges. I have a feeling she might know Ron likes her, I also think she might like him the same way. and she didn't kiss harry on the cheek in that scene. but at the end of GOF she kissed Harry on the cheek, but he didn't seem to mind that. Ron got a kiss on the cheek, and he didn't pay any attention to anything for a while. Hermione was also worrying about Ron seeing the badges. She didn't want Ron to feel hurt by it. you know why? because she cares deeply about him, that's why.
Woah Woah..... man.. you guys are crazy... chill out for a second. 😖
First of all, it looks like at the moment it's me and Hermione7 against a clan of ron/hermione people, so im going to need you to back me up Hermione7! Ok, so someone made the point about how in the POA movie ron and hermione hold hands - wrong! Hermione breifly grabs at rons hand, and why does she do this? well, at the moment when she grabs his hand, the hippogroff is coming at harry- hermione did this because she is afraid for harry, not to show affection to ron.
Also, those quotes that you found, did nothing to convince me, ive heard them before. The problem with both of those quotes is they show that ron feels slightly differently for hermione then hermione does for him. He get her perfume, he's all "puzzled, as though he was not quite sure what had just happened" about hermione kissing him on the cheek. I'm nto denying that ron has a little crush on hermione, wyhich is understandable because up to this point (untill Luna that is) hermione is the only girl who is really his friend, its natural to develop a crush and not really know how to act around her. The problem is Hermione never show affection, concern, or the interest in ron like she does with Harry. I need to get all my quotes in order, because you all really need some help to see the truth 😉
Originally posted by KKdave
Woah Woah..... man.. you guys are crazy... chill out for a second. 😖
First of all, it looks like at the moment it's me and Hermione7 against a clan of ron/hermione people, so im going to need you to back me up Hermione7! Ok, so someone made the point about how in the POA movie ron and hermione hold hands - wrong! Hermione breifly grabs at rons hand, and why does she do this? well, at the moment when she grabs his hand, the hippogroff is coming at harry- hermione did this because she is afraid for harry, not to show affection to ron.Also, those quotes that you found, did nothing to convince me, ive heard them before. The problem with both of those quotes is they show that ron feels slightly differently for hermione then hermione does for him. He get her perfume, he's all "puzzled, as though he was not quite sure what had just happened" about hermione kissing him on the cheek. I'm nto denying that ron has a little crush on hermione, wyhich is understandable because up to this point (untill Luna that is) hermione is the only girl who is really his friend, its natural to develop a crush and not really know how to act around her. The problem is Hermione never show affection, concern, or the interest in ron like she does with Harry. I need to get all my quotes in order, because you all really need some help to see the truth 😉
You got to be kidding me! How in the world do you possibly think Hermione doesn't like Ron! she grabbed Ron's hand because Buckbeak scared her. people do that when they're scared. she wasn't scared for harry she was scared because the sound buckbeak made scared her. and she wanted to grab the first person around her that she was most comfortable with, that she thought would make her feel safe. And that was Ron. Just like what some girls do when they see a movie with their boyfriend, and a scary scene comes up. they grab their boyfriend's hand. Then who did Hermione put her arms around during Buckbeaks "Execution"? Ron! She could've hugged harry, but she didn't. And if you didn't care to notice that in the book, JK Rowling has the book in pretty much Harry's point of view. I'm don't quite remember what number person view it is that they call it (First, second, Third person view.) but whatever person view it's called, JK Rowling tells us harry's thoughts (and he's the only character with thoughts), but in those thoughts, I never read even one little thought that gave a clue to harry liking Hermione. There aren't even actions or moods that indicate he loves hermione. I have a feeling he's even starting to think Ron likes Hermione by these Quotes in book 4:
"Well, if you don't like it, you know what the solution is, don't you?" yelled Hermione; her hair was coming down out of it's elegant bun now, and her face was screwed up in anger.
"Oh yeah?" Ron yelled back. "What's that?"
"Next time there's a ball, ask me before someone else does, and not as a last resort!"
Ron mouthed soundlessly like a goldfish out of water as Hermione turned on her heel and stormed up the girls' staircase to bed. Ron turned to look at Harry.
"Well," he sputtered, looking thunderstruck, "well -- that just proves -- completely missed the point --"
Harry didn't say anything. He liked being on speaking terms with Ron too much to speak his mind right now-- but he somehow thought that Hermione got the point much better than Ron did.
And I bolded it for you guys. sorry that I went back to writing quotes left from the fourth book, but I just wanted to prove that Harry has none of those kinds of affections for Hermione, or else he would've thought something out of anger. but instead, he thought Ron was wrong about Hermione missing the point, and that Ron was missing it even more. He is probably starting to think that Ron does like Hermione, and wanted to go to the ball with Hermione, but he doesn't seem upset about any of it, does he? If he had any kind of love interest for Hermione, he would have been bugged by the fact that Ron liked Hermione, because he'd have competition. He only thinks of her as a good friend. Nothing else.
And JK Rowling said in an interview after being asked "Does Hermione like Ron as more than a friend?" and she replied, "The answer to that is in Goblet of Fire!" and guess what! the answer's right there! in the second task! Fleur kissed Ron on the cheek, and Hermione became furious!
By the way, Angelflames. those pics were pretty funny. 😄
Originally posted by Ananbelle
Yup! Those were quite a laugh 😂
Yes, I agree, when she said that, that doesn't mean it has to trail into OotP, it just means that whatever apparent signs of a potential relationship are present in GoF. (And, they are! R/Hr, R/Hr.......)I'm hoping, anyway.
I know what you mean. I'd be kind of upset if Ron and Hermione don't get together. Plus, I'd probably feel ripped off. There are way too many clues of hermione liking ron. I'm surprised some people still think harry and hermione are in love, after all those clues.
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ok all done
Originally posted by angelsflame265
Well you guys do have to admit that Harry and Hermoine understand eachother a whole lot better then Ron and Hermoine
True, but it's totally platonic and a friendly kind of understanding, but Ron and Hermoine's "mis"-understandings are part of what makes them so cute together. Harry and Hermione are comfortable around each other, they don't like each other like boyfriend-girlfriend, but Ron and Hermione sort of do so there's that feeling of akwardness around them.
Ah, Ron and Hermione........
hehe 🙂
actually I think Luna has a crush on Ron, Ron has a crush on Hermione , BUT Hermione we really dont know hu the hell Hermione likes and apparently I really to me its not Ron Or what we think it is
You got to be kidding me! How in the world do you possibly think Hermione doesn't like Ron!
reall sure about that huh 🙄
To start with this, READ THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
"Does Hermione love Ron or Harry ?
I can't believe that some of you haven't worked this one out yet, but I'm not going to answer because that would spoil the arguments, which I enjoy."
So Lets get it ON KKDave got to do the full load on these 😮💨
here's an OOTP quote:
On their way downstairs they met Hermione. "Thanks for the book, Harry!" she said happily. "I've been wanting that New Theory of Numerology for ages! And that perfume is really unusual, Ron."
thats obvious for ron giving that perfume but 2 hermione, hmmm she had more like wat harry have given her, and in fairness to Harry he knows wat hermione like
on OOTP Scenes that don't make sense from the Ron/Hermione viewpoint
a) Why the hugely extended hug from Hermione to Harry at 12 Grimmauld Place?
So the boy has been in danger and threatened with expulsion. But at the time they meet up, all three are aware he's okay and the only emotion all three are experiencing is pleasure at seeing each other again. Hermione isn't grabbing Harry out of great relief from fear for him. JKR is emphasizing the joy Hermione feels at this meeting. Why? The hug nearly knocks Harry flat, Hermione rambles uncontrollably and Ron has to intervene to actually end the hug. Is it really just platonic feeling on Hermione's part? I don't think so.
b) Why isn't Hermione overjoyed at Ron being made prefect?
This scene is completely illogical from the Ron/Hermione viewpoint. Think about it: Ron, supposedly Hermione's crush, has gained an honor - a big event for someone usually overshadowed by Harry. Yet Hermione rushes in expecting Harry to have received the badge and shrieks with joy when she thinks Harry has been made prefect.
There are two things here: Firstly, JKR directly compares Hermione's shriek of joy over Harry with Mrs. Weasley's reaction to Ron's getting the badge. "Mrs Weasley let out a shriek just like Hermione's." JKR is showing the intensity of Hermione's response with that comparison. We know Mrs. Weasley loves Ron - he's her son. What does that imply about the strength of Hermione's feelings for Harry? Secondly, in the moments after Hermione bursts in, she is completely oblivious to Ron's feelings. Say Harry HAD been made prefect, shouldn't she have spared a thought for Ron's disappointment, seeing as he's her crush? Shouldn't she have felt disappointed she wouldn't be getting to spend time with Ron as prefects together?
Hermione is completely shocked that Ron could possibly warrant being made prefect and then can't think of anything he's done to justify it. She doesn't show ANY joy at Ron becoming prefect. For two whole pages of text she and Harry stand silently looking on while the Weasleys discuss it. This is not the behavior of a girl whose preferred guy has just achieved something important to him. Something, furthermore, that means she'll get to spend time alone with him.
c) Why does Hermione suddenly appear to lose interest in Quidditch as soon as Harry is off the team? And why is she so underwhelmed at Ron making the team?
She says, "it's only a game," and, "at least my happiness doesn't depend on Ron's goalkeeping ability." This from a girl who, with Ginny, was wearing "red and gold scarves, gloves and rosettes" for Harry's last game; a girl who, in PS, was watching Harry play so intently she didn't notice Ron was fighting Malfoy under her chair. When Ron makes the Quidditch team, Hermione falls asleep and only sticks around out of politeness. This is a big thing for Ron - possibly the biggest thing, in a personal sense, to happen to him at school. Compare that to the joy she feels for Harry when Rita's article comes out. It was her idea and yet she gives Harry all the credit.
ANOTHER ones
a) Hermione tries to get Harry to spend time alone with her making elf hats.
b) Hermione gives up a skiing holiday with her parents at Christmas in OoTP to come to Harry's aid.
c) Hermione grabs hold of Harry for physical and emotional support, including when the fat lady is slashed in PoA and in the DoM... when Ron is THERE both times.
d) She goes with Harry to find out what Hagrid wants instead of watching Ron play in the Quidditch final, when Harry could easily have gone on his own. Neither of them even considers that possibility.
e) Hermione is shown to have given thought to and discussed Cho's problems and love life, Ginny's love life and Harry's love life. She writes a long letter to Viktor. She is also forthright in many of her opinions to Ron and Harry. The idea that she somehow has romantic feelings for Ron and yet is too nervous and shy to broach the subject with him, or is unaware if he is interested in her or not and so doesn't broach the subject with him, simply doesn't equate with the Hermione of OoTP. (Hermione is generally confident and shows leadership in OoTP). She knows, on the other hand, that Harry has a crush on Cho, and that he has to get over that before anything else can happen.
f) Hermione tries to behave as a good friend would to Harry over Cho, but she is clearly bothered when she finds out Harry has kissed Cho.
- she keeps very close tabs on their relationship
- she finds out the gossip on Cho
- she keeps bringing the subject up with Harry to find out how he's getting on and how he's feeling
- she asks Harry to meet her on Valentine's Day even though Harry's having his first date with Cho
- she only gives Harry advice after he's had trouble with Cho
g) Nothing happened between Ron/Hermione while they were spending time together over summer.
- they said nothing happened
- Ron said Hermione was "going spare" over Harry
- there were no embarrassed looks when Harry turned up
- they didn't discuss their relationship (if they had, why is Ron surprised when he finds out later that Hermione is in touch with Viktor?)
Harry's feelings
For the past three years Harry has had a crush on Cho while, unanalyzed by himself, his friendship with Hermione has been steadily developing. In OoTP, JKR not only resolves Harry's crush on Cho (Cho's feelings are less certain), but for the first time she starts to bring Harry's feelings for Hermione closer to the surface.
a) For the first time, Harry feels extreme disquiet at Ron and Hermione getting together without him over the summer and spending time together without him.
b) For the first time, Harry starts to connect the voice he hears in his head as his conscience with Hermione.
c) Harry has a dream where Cho, his crush, turns into Hermione.
d) In the forest scenes with Grawp, Hagrid and the centaurs, Harry shows a strong instinct to physically protect Hermione. This did not happen during the Shrieking Shack and time turner scenes in PoA. JKR is showing a clear change, a clear progression in Harry's feelings. In the PoA scenes, Harry allowed Hermione to grab hold of him for emotional and physical support. Yet they were facing equally scary foes as in OoTP: the Whomping Willow, the dementors, Lupin as a werewolf, Sirius as a big dog. Harry also instinctively looks to protect Hermione when the group of six is escaping the Death Eaters in the DoM.
e) There are examples of uncharacteristic behavior by Harry towards Hermione that show her opinion has become more important to him. He helps her with revision, he hides his bad marks from her and he responds badly when she doesn't get angry on his behalf when he thought she would. JKR shows another progression: in PoA, Harry lied to Hermione about Hogsmeade without remorse. In GoF, he felt guilt about lying to her over the egg but ignored it. In OoTP, when he lies to her over Occlumency, he can't meet her eyes.
f) He spends a lot of time staring at Hermione in OoTP. There are constant descriptions of what she's doing. Noticeably, for the first time there are descriptions of her "eyes shining" and "face glowing."
g) He sticks up for Hermione to his crush, Cho - even after Cho has made it clear she's suspicious and jealous of Harry's closeness to Hermione.
h) Ginny is given a literary makeover and Harry still doesn't show any attraction to her. What's going to make him become interested if she's 'Super Ginny' now and that's not enough? How and in what ways is would she have to change?