The Official Shipping Debate Thread [merged]

Started by pumpkinpie4ever191 pages

kk as usual is right and rouge is defiantly right hermione treats ron as her inferior and hermione treats harry like her equal and at times her superior. therefore rons simple little crush is only a mere crush its defiantly not love hiding behind the bush. and to be quite frank i think hermione is getting sick of ron, the way she talks to him in book five i wouldnt be amazed if she was but i know i am. also hermione is clinging to harry all the time and cares alot about weather he kissescho and that ends my speech thank you and bye~pp4ever

Found another Ginny/Harry supporting thread that deals the books like a pyramid. I am not going to post it here but here is the link to the essay.

I'm telling you, the essays from this site that I posted and the essay from this link to the site is making a lot of H/G sense.

Edited: I read the essay.... completely.... I think I will keep that one out. I'm confused on it a bit on where it is leading.

Reasoning and Proof page of that site for Harry/Ginny. Enjoy.

http://www.as-always.org/onlyyou/Support.php

Interesting stuff to think about for H/G Shippers.

Ginny is often associated with fire because of her red hair and spunkiness. Harry has a lightening bolt on his head. Both have to do with fire, heat, that sort of thing. Put the two words together, and you have firebolt. What's A Firebolt? A broom. Not just any broom, but the fastest, best, near unbeatable broom. Put Harry and Ginny togehter, and you have an unbeatable pair.

Another Weasley
For predictions for book 6, I think it is very interesting that out of all the positions Ginny could have played on the Quidditch team, she took Harry's place. This does two things at once. It shows that they are equally talented (ie partners), it will provide them more time to spend together on the field, assuming she stays which I think she will. I think Rowling has set it up perfectly for Ginny to have "held" Harry's position for him on the Quidditch team and then she will step aside next year, to another position, so Harry can have his old position back. I don't think Harry could be anything but touched by that gesture.

Other shippers, i'm sorry, but I have to back the H/G thing up... even if most of theses things aren't my ideas, they are points to go by. I know your probably against me posting me, probably saying why can't he come up with his own ideas, well, after reading these stuff they become my ideas. But I want to keep credit to the people that first came up with the ideas... though for the two above I don't know who did those. Hell, I might get lucky and actually change someones opinion. O.O

nightcrawler , I dont deny the fact that it can be H/g but I'm all for Hhr now and forever. I have my reasons on why I support them

(5) I like it. This is probably my most simple reason for supporting this pair but honestly, isn't most persons
ship preferences really about personal taste? What exactly appeals to you? The fact is many persons say that
Harry and Hermione is clichéd hero gets the girl; but that's where I disagree. Hermione is not the typical "girl"
in that cliché. She is not stunningly beautiful; she's not the super-popular, perfect girl. She's a bookworm and
in many ways a plain-Jane and that appeals to me. Why shouldn't she get the hero? Score one for bookworms
everywhere. I like that at the same time he has been HER hero. It's not everyday a guy jumps on 12-foot troll
for a girl. While he's been her hero she's never been a weakling and her strength is appealing in a female lead.
I am not close-minded to all other pairings. It's just that I read a scene like Hermione and Ron bickering over
who stunned who and it's mildly cute but that's it. Plus, they've been doing this since the first book and it has
really gotten rather tired. The fact is I like the idea that two people can get together without there being forced,
petty, non-sensical bickering added to them under the veil of some so-called "tension". I like the idea that we
can see two teenagers get together without the old girl likes boy-boy doesn't notice her-girl gets over boy-boy
realizes how truly amazing girl always was. I like the idea that we can see a popular source of entertainment
that shows two teens respecting, loving, supporting each other and that yes, they can fall in love. It is possible.
Finally persons always use to say how Harry gets everything and Ron deserves Hermione. I guess JK threw that
out by giving Ron Prefect and Quidditch Cup but I'm sure some will still see Ron as the poor, pathetic guy who
deserves to win the girl. Personally I hate that because it objectifies Hermione as some kind of consolation
prize, however I can argue that HARRY deserves Hermione. Many persons want to make Ron out to be some
poor guy and Harry as getting everything; but that really isn't the case. It astounds me when persons have this
view after reading the books and you take a scene like when Mrs.Weasley was reacting to Ron's being made
prefect. I'm sure in persons bid to believe poor Ron was finally being vindicated, no one stopped to think how
Harry might have felt in that moment. Now don't get me wrong, Mrs. Weasley had EVERY right to be proud of
her son but imagine Harry, orphan as he is, had to stand and watch Mrs Weasley fawn and be so proud of her
son; knowing he will never have that. Because the truth is no matter how much Mrs. Weasley loves Harry and
supports him and takes care of him, because she's naturally a mothering woman, essentially Sirius was right;
she's NOT his mother. She will never love him like Lily did and judging by how much people love Lily, she was
pretty ****ed amazing; but Harry'll never know that personally and I just shake my head at persons acting like
Harry gets everything. Right. That's why when it's all said and done, I think why shouldn't he have Hermione in
the end? Why shouldn't he be with the ONE person who has supported him, stood by him, loved him, defended
him, unwaveringly throughout?
Before I end I wanted to comment on persons attacks on Hermione's character for her disapproving of Harry
wanting to talk to Sirius. Need I remind persons who it was who convinced Harry to write to Sirius about his
name coming out of the Goblet? Hermione. Who was it again who helped Harry make sure the Common Room
was empty so he could speak to Sirius? Hermione; and while Harry outrightly didnot like the idea of Sirius being
so close to Hogsmeade, we NEVER heard Hermione going on about how risky it was or criticizing Sirius' being
there. Yet, just because the girl realized that it was indeed dangerous for both Harry and Sirius to
communicate, she's suddenly become this cold, emotionless person who doesn't want Harry talking to his
godfather? I wonder if some people conveniently forgot that Sirius was still technically a wanted criminal? And
I'm sure Fudge would have LOVED that; convince the public how much Voldie isn't back by bringing in one ofthe most dangerous criminals and his supporters. Besides that, you have Umbridge who was beyond insane,
Voldemort and his DE's on the loose and Dementors working on Voldemort's orders. Yet despite all this,
Hermione is cold because she merely told Harry that he couldn't put revealing information in a letter that could
be intercepted? She is cold because she tries to discourage him from talking to Sirius in a fireplace considering
a fireplace was where they'd almost been caught and where he was now planning to use the office of the
woman who was certifiably diabolical? She is annoying and motherly because she tells him the truth? That of
course being, that what he wants to do IS crazy and stupid but Ginny is the better partner because she voices
NO objections, simply goes running to her big brothers and gets THEM to solve the problem, giving him what he
wants, regardless of the risks? It amazes me that it hasn't occurred to anyone that this isn't all about Harry.
Some of his risky decisions and rash judgments; they affect more than just him. What was his thought when
Snape threatened to use the truth potion on him in GOF? That the things Snape would find out and the number
of persons that would get in trouble. I mean who was it again who used a time-turner illegally, helping Harry
EVERY step of the way to save Sirius? Oh yes, Hermione. As Lupin pointed out MANY people love Harry and as
such MANY persons lives do become affected by his foolish decisions. That's why I agreed wholeheartedly with
Hermione reminding him of DD running away from Hogwarts to save HIM; yet he was going to throw that back
in DD's face by taking such a silly risk. The fact is there are times when Harry needs someone to knock some
serious sense into his fool's head and it's a little sad that the ONE friend strong enough to do it, gets criticized
for it.

one of it is these, others are in the h/hr corner thread but pls. no arguing there.

Well what can I say, everything that could be said has either been said by pumpkinpie, hermione7, or repeated by myself. Saying it again would just be making more circles then I already have 😄 Very good points. I don't believe there is any other character that has stood by Harry like Hermione has or that understands Harry like Hermione does. Any other girl in Harry's life would be forced to play second fiddle to Hermione (as Cho already has) and no relationship can work that way. Hermione is the one and only.

*feels awkwardly ignore.*O.O

You can't be H/Hr forever if it turns out that they don't get together.

Remember people, he is the boy who lived, and she is the girl who survived.

You can't be H/Hr forever if it turns out that they don't get together

No matter what happens even if they will not be the one , I'll stay true 2 what I believe, forever

[wat the heck was that am I on poetry action] lol...

Now that is good to hear. True to what you believe even beyond when the truth is told.

hehehe tnx, hey you too with h/g,

we still got a threat , Luna is the name she might be also the one,

CHO CHANG out of the picture, why do I dont like this girl?

She evil.... EVIL *pokes Cho with sharp stick.*

hahahaha....

also slapping cho hard in the face

At least we think something alike.

Originally posted by NightCrawler341
by Cressida (<<<<<<< This person wrote it. HER!)

I love that girl! Never heard of her before, but I read and loved every bit of that essay!

I would also add that maybe one of the reasons Ginny can now speak freely to Harry is that she has matured from her crush - after all, you can't talk to someone you have a crush on, but you can quite happily talk to the person you love...

Originally posted by TheSun
You can't be H/Hr forever if it turns out that they don't get together.

People still can in fanfiction if they want to. thats why i like fanfic so much - it is an unlimited medium

^^^ Mmhmm.

Originally posted by hermione7
hehehe tnx, hey you too with h/g,

we still got a threat , Luna is the name she might be also the one,

CHO CHANG out of the picture, why do I dont like this girl?

I think Luna and Ron would be sooo cute together!!! To me it makes sense for them to be together. I as well will stand by my belief that Harry and Hermione would be perfect together, and I'll have to give JKR a harsh talking to if it doesn't end up that way disgust
Oh and I agree Cho is slightly evil, I never liked her character....

Hey, let JKR do what she wants. Its her story, not yours. Not everything can happen to your liking.