Bring me the eyes of the oracle

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Bring me the eyes of the oracle

Thats what the mero says. He says that, then says "Then you can have your 'savior'" or something along that line. Who/what is the eyes of the oracle. I'm thinking it's Seraph, or something of the sort.

Hmm maybe Seraph.. or maybe it's literal and he wants her eyes! Mwahahahahahahaha :-|

my bro just had a good thought - bring me the eyes of the oracle -> who have we seen blind(fold)ed in the trailer (i.e. without (working) eyes)? neo! the oracle may have injected her 'eye' code into neo with the cookie/candy.

but <ero has Neo, and besides, the cookie was WAY before he had visions, and the candy was WAY after...

we don't know how long he had been having visions. trinity says 'still can't sleep?' near the beginning of reloaded. you're thinking the dream at the start of reloaded is neo's first, and you're probably wrong about that. and mero might not know what the oracle did, so he keeps neo prisoner in exchange for the eyes, not knowing he already has them.

but still, Neo didn't have visions until after M1, and Neo met the Oracle A LONG time before he became the one, months before...

Originally posted by JediHDM
but still, Neo didn't have visions until after M1, and Neo met the Oracle A LONG time before he became the one, months before...

no he didn't. what Matrix did you watch? right after he visited her, there was the deja vu ambush, after which they immediately rescued morpheus, after which they immediately ended up at the subway station, after which neo battled smith, after which he immediately ran off to the exit in the hotel, after which he became the one.

where is your LONG time? months before 🙄 ? no offense.

No, it’s not Neo. The Mero has him, so!
We know the Mero even had the termination code to the Oracles old shell.
Remember:
“You have the sight now. You see without time.”?

Rys> JediHDM is propbably referring to the second meeting with the candy. In both instances we don't see Neo eating neither cookie nor candy.

never heard of the strategy to hide things you don't want found in the least probable place?


Rys> JediHDM is propbably referring to the second meeting with the candy. In both instances we don't see Neo eating neither cookie nor candy.

this makes no sense. care to eleborate on how this explains what jedi said ("Neo met the Oracle A LONG time before he became the one, months before"😉.

Rys> Sorry. I misread JediHDM's sentence as being "Neo meet the Oracle a long time after he became the one, months after."
No, it doesn't make any sense 🙂

oki, thought i was going mad 😛

im sorry, you were right, rys...i dont know what i was thinking right there, i think i was thinking that it was months between Neo waking up and becoming the one...i dont know, that was a misstep on my part...I apologize.

no prob dude 🙂 my memory gets blurry all the time too 😄

why do you all think my idea sucks? it aint that impossible 😛

its possible, but there is no evidence that supports it, esp in that the Oracle doesn't act like she gave it to him; she acts like its natural that the ONE see the visions...

neo cant have the eyes, he is held captive in limbo.

how is the first part of your sentence a conclusion of the second?

If neo is the savior, then if they got the eyes from neo, they would already have the savior. So someone else must have the eyes.

Like saying, bring me a happy meal and i weill get you some food.

If you have the meal, you have the food. If neo has the eyes and you go get neo, you have neo.

But the thing IS.....

who even EATS a happy meal?

Back on topic, I still think that it is either Seraph, or even stronger beleif, That Mero Wants her dead and wants her eyes.

maybe because the recepy for the cookie is permently engraved in her retina.

who knows?

p.s. yes, i still am not off the cookie experience.

It is not Seraph. Seraph is with Trinity, Morpheus, etc. when the go into Club Hell. You can see him in the commercial (Help?) and the trailer. Look at the overhead shot where the gun is reaching the top of it's arc. (He is just to the left of the gun kicking someone.) If M. wanted him, he would have just tried to take him there (or demanded him).

As for Neo having/not having the Oracle's eyes, it is quite possible. The Oracle has the vision. She sees M. coming after her for this enhancement. She knows if he gets it, he will have even more power and be unstoppable. So, she gives it to Neo. To hide it. To safe guard it. To give the one person who can possibly defeat M., Smith, Archie, etc. more power and a better chance. Like any program, it might take time to activate. M. wouldn't know if she gave it away. And since it seems to be her biggest asset, wouldn't think that she would give it away.

Originally posted by tshirt
It is not Seraph. Seraph is with Trinity, Morpheus, etc. when the go into Club Hell. You can see him in the commercial (Help?) and the trailer. Look at the overhead shot where the gun is reaching the top of it's arc. (He is just to the left of the gun kicking someone.) If M. wanted him, he would have just tried to take him there (or demanded him).

As for Neo having/not having the Oracle's eyes, it is quite possible. The Oracle has the vision. She sees M. coming after her for this enhancement. She knows if he gets it, he will have even more power and be unstoppable. So, she gives it to Neo. To hide it. To safe guard it. To give the one person who can possibly defeat M., Smith, Archie, etc. more power and a better chance. Like any program, it might take time to activate. M. wouldn't know if she gave it away. And since it seems to be her biggest asset, wouldn't think that she would give it away.

interesting, sounds good to me