Oh and the slavery thing doesn't just go 2 ways either. We created machines to be our slaves but machines didn't create us. But in turn, the machines created programs and enslaved them. Hence the reason we get exiles etc.
I am not saying their lack of emotion makes them inferior. What I AM saying is that they WANT it. They don't know what it feels like and they want to.
What I want, being human, has zip to do with this.
Who's being evasive now...
Sifer> We know from “The Matrix” that the machines have mastered “a KIND of fusion.” Main-source is MAIN-source. Namely the sun.
So, a few sun-rays aren’t shown in the ANIMATED movie to filter through the scorched blackness. That doesn’t prove anything. It might as well mean, that the animators of Second Renaissance wanted to show how mankind scorched the sky, and didn’t bother with small effects, you know?
“And yes I have looked at the size of the power plants. Mighty tall for a species without enough energy the energy to build things that high.”
But they are ALREADY there. The battery-plants were built at the beginning of the machine-rule and have been there for probably hundreds of years. If the machines deduced they could get a renewable energy source from ONE project on the ground, why not make ONE effort to do so?
“If you also didn't notice, it was machine created aircraft which let us smoke the sky. Well, errm, if the machine created aircraft can be used to get that high, I am pretty darn sure the machines can also get that high.”
And what if said machines ran on solar-batteries? I don’t know if you’ve noticed that the crafts in the Matrix Movies fly close to the GROUND. Sentinels, hover-crafts, the big machines from the revolutions trailer. Even the shot of a hovercraft and a blue sky, seem to show a craft that goes up, then looses momentum, and falls again.
And machines didn’t create programs and then enslaved them. They created programs, which then became OBSOLETE or replaced by better or newer programs. That’s why we get exiles.
“Who's being evasive now...”
You are. What I as a human being want from MY biological parents, while I grow up has WHAT to do with all of this? Has what to do with your “machines want love” theory?
I’m still to get answers for:
1) Why do you think, that the machines deduce, that learning about human evil, would teach them about human love. It would be easy for you to simply point to the thread in question.
2) Why you think the machines build the Matrix so the humans can rebel.
3) How "Man endowed the machines with the very spirit of man" proves your idea of machines thirsting for love?
Omega: Go look up the word "Spirit" on Dictionary.com. You will notice, that if the machines are endowed with the spirit of man, they are missing one vital element: FEELINGS.
I DON'T think that the Machines built the Matrix for them to Rebel, you misread many things. But the fact is, we did, and we know for a fact that they CAN survive without us - "There are levels of survival we are willing to accept". So if they can survive without us, why bother with us? Why bother reloading the Matrix everytime? Why not let us all die? Why do they bother using up energy to grow us?
What I as a human being want from MY biological parents, while I grow up has WHAT to do with all of this? Has what to do with your “machines want love” theory?
FFS: It isn't literal - It was a ****in' question based on something that HASN'T happened, so why the difficulty in answering it? Now seeing as you can't see the point of the question - Imagine, we create a machine and apparently endow it with the very spirit of man but forget to give it 1 thing which IS part of the spirit of man. How would you feel IF it happened to you? How would any of you feel? Wait a minute...you couldn't.
I point my finger to Data from Star Trek: His creator gave him everything but emotions. Even in the simplest form, he did not have them. But what did he long to have, and strive to become? MORE HUMAN - He wanted to FEEL.
It would be easy for you to simply point to the thread in question.
Well if it's easier, go ****in' read it then.