Veteran Forum

I agree with BF and Ush

altho I sure like the idea. I fear it would cause an only (bigger) problem with some members who consider themself veteran. Cause as Ush said it would be hard to define cause just postcount aint it

heck even I wouldn't consider myself a vet

you are a n00b dude 😛

Originally posted by Fire
I agree with BF and Ush

altho I sure like the idea. I fear it would cause an only (bigger) problem with some members who consider themself veteran. Cause as Ush said it would be hard to define cause just postcount aint it

heck even I wouldn't consider myself a vet

It could be resolved by using the time you have been here, as oposed to post count, like 1 year would be good.

maybe tho that would leave semi-active ppl to become vets and semi-noobs who are active, in more than one section, to be left out

well if they've been here over a year they probably have put in a significant amount of effort to the forums.

🙂 if they are still active yea, but then again how do you register activity

hmmm, i see your point....

whiiiiii

Indeed, time based is no good, it would exclude Kes but let in lots of people that were barely here at all but might pop back.

maybe a combination of posts and time.

or maybe just no veteran forum

That would mean kes is a newbie... 😑

technically she is

good point, so I'm I also, damn.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
The purpose of the OTF was to create a calmer GDF, of course, so if that is the effect then it is working just fine.

And we know forums evolve, Lindsay- I have seen it plenty of times- but on the other hand no-one has the right to come along and say that the established members who have made it what it is now have to be in a place that is run like the new people want it. Besides, the people who say that the oldies should change to like how the new people have made it now are normally the first to complain when a subsequent wave of posters wants to change it again. I've seen THAT several times as well...

Also, no offence, Lindsay, but you barely leave the OTF, so you can't really say you know how this place 'works'. You know how one section works- sure. But not the whole place.

However, I think this all demonstrates the big problems that would be caused by trying to tie down who is and who isn't a 'veteran' member. It really would cause resentment.

Although I may post in the OTF on a constant basis, doesn't mean I don't go into the other forums. I browse the other forums all the time but I rarely find anything worth posting about in there. Usually just because all the threads have gotten so off topic by the time I get to them or just because what I wanted to say has already been said.

Also I never said that I knew how KMC worked, being as I have only been here for a few months I don't think it is possible for me to know that much information.

Another thing, just because I post in the OTF all the time, doesn't mean that my posts are meaningless and have no substance. Granted not all my posts may mean something, but many of them do have a point to them. OTF or not.

On a final note, I never said I was totally against the veteran forum, just that it is proof that there is a line drawn between the vet members and the newbies. Realistically I can understand why the vet members would want a forum of their own, and I really wouldn't have a major problem with it, I would just feel somewhat left out.

well it's not happening, obviously there would be to many problems, so it doesnt matter.

True and I still believe there to be a somewhat subjective line in the minds of the "veterans" not that it is very visible or something. And I know ppl might deny this but from talks I had with "veterans" it seems that they all have that imaginairy line in their head (inc me). There are a few exceptions on the rule a few newer members who are (atleast for me) on the same side of the line as the "vets" but those are rather few.

PS: for me a veteran is someone who has been here a while, atleast almost a year, who posts in more than one section, who helps to keep thread On Topic, helps out other members, welcomes noobs, doesn't get offensif or defensif, doesn't go Off Topic in every thread and who spends time socialising with other members.

That is a lot of different things and requirements a person has to meet to be a veteran member but I think it is good basis to judge whether or not a person is a newbie. I think that having all of those different factors makes a person have to earn their right as a well repsected member of KMC. I myself am willing to earn that title and I know that it just takes time.

I think it just depends on the member on whether or not a vet likes them or not. I am friends with quite a few older members who I was never friends with from the start. Frienship is an earned thing no matter what the circumstances are, and I think that each newbie has to earn that with all the members here, including myself.

Fire said it, there is indeed an invisible line in the minds of every veteran member (whether they admit it or not, its there) that seperates them from newer members. And all the aspects that fire said taht make a veteran are right on.

Thx Linds and BF