Veteran Forum

Not really, because the off-topic implies a predefined topic.
It should have been name the "free forum", "anything goes forum" or "No rules forum".
(I don't think this really matter, eventually. Let's not argue about such trivial matter).
What about a little regulation ?

I think yerss his idea is a good one
make a few general threads like jokes and so
and then have everyone who enters make 1 thread and no more after that

With regulation it would turn into the GDF.

Also, this thread is a good example of how the mentality of the otf has spread too the other forums on the board. This thread has gone way off topic since it's start, and should be closed according to the rules of the board. But, because of the menality of those who post on the off topic forum, and because many are used to the freedom to post anything in any thread, it remains up and it's complete irrelevence to the original topic goes unnoticed by all (except mods, and members who were here before the OTF). Thus, the otf is kinda hurting the other boards, because its made people used to the allowance of a thread going off topic, and thus they dont even attempt to keep it on topic.

or, .. bf, mods haven't checked this thread since it went off-topic

i know, it was merely an example of how the oft menality has kinda caused the members to get used to the complete freedom of that board.

I think we're not really off-topic... The question of the Vet forum was related to a disappointement caused in some ways by the OTF.
Our discussion about this topic that your question has raised is just evolving... (except fo the matter of the title, maybe...)

To me allow the off-topic and not to intervene at all are two different things...You can regulate with allowing off-topic.
Actually it is slightly regulated (bad language, racism,...).

yes, because no matter how you twist and turn it,
the server is in texas, so we abide by texas rules and regulations about the net

Originally posted by BackFire349
With regulation it would turn into the GDF.

Also, this thread is a good example of how the mentality of the otf has spread too the other forums on the board. This thread has gone way off topic since it's start, and should be closed according to the rules of the board. But, because of the menality of those who post on the off topic forum, and because many are used to the freedom to post anything in any thread, it remains up and it's complete irrelevence to the original topic goes unnoticed by all (except mods, and members who were here before the OTF). Thus, the otf is kinda hurting the other boards, because its made people used to the allowance of a thread going off topic, and thus they dont even attempt to keep it on topic.

True BF True

that's why I say close the damn thing down and seriously reenforce the rules

Personally I don't care much whether the OTF stays open or not. Granted I may be in there a lot, but I can live without it, and it isn't the reason I joined KMC in the first place. I also wouldn't mind it being closed for the simple reason that a lot of members who aren't really here for the right reasons would leave, making KMC a lot calmer and a more positive place.

anyways, this thread isnt about the OTF, we should make a new thread for that to be discussed, this thread is for the discussion of a veteran forum (which we now know to be an impossible dream 😛)

Nonononononoonononononono no closint OTF!! It so happy and fun!! Maybe close the threads that are just bashing or wude, but not funny fun fun threads!!!

*has a tantrum*

well I think this thread can be closed, not much useful can be added anywayz

I still don't get why people discuss it here 😖
if a decission has to be made about a new forum it's Raz and the JC that makes it, not a few random members who stumbled upon this thread

discussion is usually a direct result of boredom, at least for me.

Originally posted by yerssot
I still don't get why people discuss it here 😖
if a decission has to be made about a new forum it's Raz and the JC that makes it, not a few random members who stumbled upon this thread

Well why not talk about it? Maybe Raz and the JC members will read this thread and think some of us have made a valid point. Or maybe not, maybe we just like sharing our opinions with each other.

Ok...

1. The existence or otherwise of the OTF is under discussion still

2. Trying to restrict the subject matter allowed in the OTF (beyond not allowing the offensive) is pointless. The main objective of the OTF was to allow the posting of nonsense but keep it out the GDF, As BF says, if we start to restrict that we would simply have two competing GDFs, whatever their names are. For all its failures, the OTF HAS returned a certain sense of stability to the GDF. IF the OTF is closed it has nothing to do with the mods- or anyone else- not liking it, it would simply be a matter of judging whether it is worth the hassle or not, considering its various disadvantages.

3. It might be called the OTF but that is only because that was its main purpose. It was always described as the place with no rules- a statement we expected common sense to be applied to.

4. A newbie only area is simply conceptually untenable. Newbie interests are perfectly well served!

5. A veteran forum is not, in my opinion, worth the hassle

Now that has all been commented on... ideas on a Vet forum only or nothing, please...

well I don't think there is much more to say
as you said it would take quite a lot of hassle and a second forum, the easy way out wouldn't be the same

yeah, close this thread ushy baby.

Originally posted by Fire
True and I still believe there to be a somewhat subjective line in the minds of the "veterans" not that it is very visible or something. And I know ppl might deny this but from talks I had with "veterans" it seems that they all have that imaginairy line in their head (inc me). There are a few exceptions on the rule a few newer members who are (atleast for me) on the same side of the line as the "vets" but those are rather few.

PS: for me a veteran is someone who has been here a while, atleast almost a year, who posts in more than one section, who helps to keep thread On Topic, helps out other members, welcomes noobs, doesn't get offensif or defensif, doesn't go Off Topic in every thread and who spends time socialising with other members.

😕
what's a JC member?? 😄