"Either Must Die in the Hands of the Other". The Lost Prophecy

Started by ladygrim59 pages

to me harry potter defintly shouldnt be compared to God for obvuos reasons but to me he sounds more like a tragic hero .. (kinda like hamlet) . father is killed . he wants/ needs to kill voldy in revnge for his fathers/mothers murder ... many many obsticles in his way

Well... the title of this thread isnt correct..is it?
see my sig 4 correction 🙂

Originally posted by Scar
but dan thinks harry will die...

lol, you say that as if dan thinks it...then it must be true. 🙂 But i still think harry's gunna live in the end...it'll be bitter sweet, but he'll be alive

Originally posted by Lianslo
Lots of ppl try to find symbolism in everything...and i don't think its necessarily wrong, i just think its a matter of opinoin. My Bible teacher thinks that "The Matrix" is very symbolic (which it kinda is) and even showed part of it in our bible class in order to explain the doctrine of election...

Yeah strangely enough, my youth leader thinks the same about Matrix. If u look at the symbolism of 'The One' and 'Trinity' and how the matirx has been pulled over our eyes to hide the truth of the real world and that kinda thing . . . . . . .
Unfortunately, i must admit, i dont see the same sort of symbolism for HP. 😛

And im going on hols everyone *waves* cya when i get back!

Originally posted by jcbernier
Love is what took down Voldemort in the beginning, but hasn't he now gotten around that? He used Harry's blood in his rejuvenation bath when he got his body back in book four. I wonder how JKR will handle that issue?

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Hi!! I'm new. I was just reading these an saw this one. I think its more the fact that Harry can love that will save him. See, remember in the fifth book, when Voldy posessed Harry and told Dumbledore to kill the boy (meaning Harry), well, when Harry thought about Siriius, he was filled with love, and that was enough to drive Voldy away. In the end it didn't matter that Voldy now shared Harry's blood and the protection his mother left him with.

Originally posted by KC13
It cant be Neville though cos they say that only the person who the prophecy is about can read it or else they would die. So harry would of died if the prophecy wasn't about him.

Thats true, except it was picking it up that only the people it was about could do. If it was Neville's Harry would've gone mad like Bode did, wouldn't he?? 🤨

Originally posted by SAtown_punk
Here's the deal...the prophecy says "Neither can live while the other survives". That DOESN'T MEAN they are both going to die. It means one of them will be dead in the end. I don't believe it will be Harry dying when all is said and done because we can't have Voldemort in power again. However, Harry may die in the end only if somebody steps up and kills Voldemort afterward. I believe Snape may end up being the one to kill Voldemort because J.K. is building up the suspense of the hatred of Snape.
Also, in Order of the Phoenix, Dubledore says that the prophecy is Harry's. How can it be Neville's? Think, people! Oh, and J.K. hasn't even written the 6th book yet, so how can anybody know what the 7th one is or how it is going to end!?!

totally. except for one thing. well, i dont think Harry will die either,(least i hope he doesn't), and JKrowling has already written the least chapter of book seven. she wrote that so she would kno exactly how she was going to have it end b4 filling in the rest. 😄

I think that IF JK wants to get rid of the already imposed reputation of " not -so good wirter" as the evil tongues continue saying around, she would give a tragic end of the serial, so the books would become sort of classics. So our dear HP will have to leave us....
But wait with the tears.... she , Jk could always contniue giving us more books about Hogwarts, stories , perhaps even using the oldcharctes for her new boooks
I Love JK

okay. sum of you were complaining about the thread dying. well, i've been researching the 6th book a lot lately (dont know when its coming out), and there are sum odd rumors. What do you hink of Harry being related to the Weasley's?? or of Aunt Petunia having magical powers bue denying them b/c of her love of muggle life??Sum odd ppl saying that Harry's mum was related to the Weasley's (she had red hair). i dunno. what do you all think?? 🤪

lol, that was prolly me complaining about the thread dying 😮 and i've heard a couple of those claims b/f...and i don't know, the one that i see some possibilities in is the one about aunt petunia...when she knew about dementors in book five, it showed a different side of her, one that didn't bluntly deny there was a magical world...shes a rather mysterious character...so perhaps we will find out more about her later, about her past and such.

Yeah, i hope so. It was kind of odd, the way she knew about the dementors. Oh, and there is supposed to be a HUGE revelation about Lily in the next book. Ne idea what it could be??

Originally posted by Scar
Well... the title of this thread isnt correct..is it?
see my sig 4 correction 🙂

OH NO! sorry, i changed the word "at" for "in" 😑 🙄

Originally posted by padfootluver
Yeah, i hope so. It was kind of odd, the way she knew about the dementors. Oh, and there is supposed to be a HUGE revelation about Lily in the next book. Ne idea what it could be??

hmm...i really don't know...except for the idea about Lupin being in love w/ her...but that doesn't really seem "HUGE"...but is it true that the next book's title is "Harry Potter and the Column of Storge?"...cuz if it is, the thing w/ lily would kinda make sense...cause storge means parental love (or at least thats what i read in another thread 😛)

Yea, i heard that, too, but supposedly that was just filler. Thats what JK said on her website. Well, actually, she said that the info behind the locked door on her website was filler, and thats where the title was found. It's going to be officially announced (supposedly) on July 1st. We'll just have to wait and see. ❌ I hate waiting!!!

Originally posted by padfootluver
Sum odd ppl saying that Harry's mum was related to the Weasley's (she had red hair). i dunno. what do you all think?? 🤪

Well, ah, that cant be because remember in OotP when Sirius says all pure blood families were distantly related? Well Lily coodnt be related coz her parents were muggle born, only James cood b distantly related to the Weasleys as he was pure blood. . . . . . . . . . . c what i mean? 😎

Yeah, I see. That makes sense. But what if, a few generations back, the Weasley's had a Squib realtion who married a muggle, and they never produced any magical generations until Lily. Did that make any sense?? It was kind of hard to put into words.

good point Rina....RINA?!?! 😱 i thought i wasn't gunna talk to you for a month! 😄

anyways...after i posted that...i actually went to JK's website 🙂 and read that stuff too...but july 1?!?! thats awesome! 😄

Okay this confused me about the Prophecy.
Dumbeldore said that becuz the prophecy could have been for Neville, but Voldermorth chose him and marked him as his equal.
I'm trying to figure out why Voldermorth chose Harry?? Does this sound strange?? I mean, how did Voldermorth know that Harry was the one? What did Harry have that Nevilled didn't?? Both parents had defeated 3 times, and both Harry and Neville were born around the same time? So why did Voldermorth go after Harry and not Neville??

Originally posted by Lianslo
good point Rina....RINA?!?! 😱 i thought i wasn't gunna talk to you for a month! 😄

blushing Hey Li! Im at my b/f's house 😮 And i thot it was a good point too .. . . . . . coz i made it! 😛 *ducks all rotten vegetables* 😉

Originally posted by RoguePw25
Okay this confused me about the Prophecy.
Dumbeldore said that becuz the prophecy could have been for Neville, but Voldermorth chose him and marked him as his equal.
I'm trying to figure out why Voldermorth chose Harry?? Does this sound strange?? I mean, how did Voldermorth know that Harry was the one? What did Harry have that Nevilled didn't?? Both parents had defeated 3 times, and both Harry and Neville were born around the same time? So why did Voldermorth go after Harry and not Neville??

Well i would hafta say its coz Harry's parents were closer to Dumbledore . . . . . . or maybe its coz they were going into hiding or something. I dunno 😮 sorry!