Holes in The Matrix Movies

Started by DARKVIRUS41 pages

Hehehe!!!

Look meta im gonna save you some aggravation ok?. Look back at my post and read them again this is the second time you have replied to me and I was not even talking to you.

Anything having to do with me and you was over when i asked you a simple question and you bored with with countless stat's and double posting. I mean it leads me to belive that you dont see the edit button or something but, that's beside the point.

The you and me thing is over, been that way for a while, so talk to someone who is actually listening to you and finds your triple posting amusing. 😄

Originally posted by DARKVIRUS
Hehehe!!!

Look meta im gonna save you some aggravation ok?. Look back at my post and read them again this is the second time you have replied to me and I was not even talking to you.

Anything having to do with me and you was over when i asked you a simple question and you bored with with countless stat's and double posting. I mean it leads me to belive that you dont see the edit button or something but, that's beside the point.

The you and me thing is over, been that way for a while, so talk to someone who is actually listening to you and finds your triple posting amusing. 😄

You say you weren't talking to me, yet you quoted me? Hmmm..disturbing.. I only reply to you when I see my name in your post, but rest assured I'll ignore even that from now on.


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Originally posted by Metamorphisis

And he can be cleaver - if you're a nimrod who can't tell the difference between opinions and fact, or sort through over elaborated propoganda and vocab. But it gets old quick and he constantly repeats himself when you sort it all out! [/B]
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And im the only one that deserves a warning....

I sit back and read these latest post...and something about this does not sit right with me, anti-fan. Is that what you would call somone who watched The matrix and reloaded more times than I thought humanly possible. Is that what you would call someone who has the whole series one and two (minus the mifune APU) macfarlane figures, movie posters, twins poster, and the animatrix.

Look if you dont agree with me that revo's fell short then that's fine but, do not label me an anti-fan because of that. Im just a big a fan as anyone else...I was just let down by the last movie. Jee I wonder if the ppl at the holloween party I went to thought I was an anti-fan when i was dressed up as neo .

Read it again..I did quote you but, I was not talking to you.

Anywayz back to the subject of this thread.

heyyyy...the source was able to kill Neo then why not smith?

Because Neo was jacked into the Matrix through their machine, and Smith was an unstoppable virus.

Here are some holes:

-Neo has been in the pod his entire life, yet when taken out, no operations or anything are done to his ligaments. It's pretty much impossible for him to have been able to walk after being taken out of the Matrix w/o surgery and rehabilitation.
-Morpheus says that he's been looking for Neo his entire life, but he got out of the Matrix probably as a teenager and wasn't allowed to be on a ship till about 17. So that means he's been looking for Neo for at least half his life.
-Link says that Neo's "doing his Superman thing", but Link is from Zion, not the Matrix, and though he may have been told about him, how does he know who Superman is?

Originally posted by The Unknown
Because Neo was jacked into the Matrix through their machine, and Smith was an unstoppable virus.

Here are some holes:

-Neo has been in the pod his entire life, yet when taken out, no operations or anything are done to his ligaments. It's pretty much impossible for him to have been able to walk after being taken out of the Matrix w/o surgery and rehabilitation.


Actually, if you remember correctly from the first movie - they did rebuild his ligaments. Neo asks what was going on when he very first woke up and had all the pins stuck into him. Morpheus told him he never used his eyes and that his muscles were atrophied, and to rest. We do not have an exact time frame that Neo was worked on medically like that.
-Morpheus says that he's been looking for Neo his entire life, but he got out of the Matrix probably as a teenager and wasn't allowed to be on a ship till about 17. So that means he's been looking for Neo for at least half his life.

Morpheus, like Neo, had been looking for an answer his whole life - even before he was outside of the Matrix. When he was freed from the Matrix and heard of the prophecy, he believed that his purpose was to find "The One." He believed that "The One" was the answer he was always looking for, so, in effect, it was looking for Neo his entire life - whether he knew it or not.
-Link says that Neo's "doing his Superman thing", but Link is from Zion, not the Matrix, and though he may have been told about him, how does he know who Superman is?

Do you not think that growing up in the real world, Link wouldn't have had old comic books, tv programs downloaded from the Matrix in the same way they download other things like the drop from the Osiris? Link was a little kid at some point, and he was a decendant from someone who was inside the Matrix, so, it is to far fetched to say that he could've grown up with stories, comic books, or even old TV shows of Superman...

They'd have to surgically lengthen his ligaments, and he'd need A LOT of rehabilitation. The first time he fully woke up after being taken out of the pod, he could walk and was perfectly fine.

Originally posted by The Unknown
They'd have to surgically lengthen his ligaments, and he'd need A LOT of rehabilitation. The first time he fully woke up after being taken out of the pod, he could walk and was perfectly fine.

True, but consider that the movie is on a truncated time scale. There ARE events that happen that we do not see...or does it bother you that we don't ever see them piss, shower, brush their teeth, etc? We also cannot say definitively that the first time that we see Neo wake up is the first time that he DID wake up. Throw into the mix that they obviously have far superior technology than we do today, and that medical recovery time is being drastically reduced today as opposed to 20, or even 10 years ago...you can't make that arguement. Time was sacrificed for the sake of a movie, who would want to see a patient recover for 12 to 18 months from ligament surgery? That would be one long and boring movie..don't call it a hole when it's not. To make my point on a smaller scale - when they step into the elevator in Reloaded on their way to see the Mero, you don't see them through the whole ride. Video editing and scripting to keep the story moving does not constitute as a hole. I'm sorry.

According to a site I found, hair for someone Neo's age grows at 0.30 mm a day. If you look at Neo's hair when he fully wakes up, it's probably half a cm or a little longer. That would mean that he's been out of the pod for about 20-25 days. It would be impossible for him to have his ligaments lengthened and physically rehabilitated in that short time period, and don't say they shaved his head, because that would make no sense for them to do that...

And that is most likely the first time he wakes up. He sits up in bed, looking around in wonder, and then notices the thing in his arm. That's when Morpheus comes in. He asks "Morpheus, what happened to me?" So this is the first time he's been fully awake, for he would have asked the question earlier...

Originally posted by The Unknown
Because Neo was jacked into the Matrix through their machine, and Smith was an unstoppable virus.

Here are some holes:

-Neo has been in the pod his entire life, yet when taken out, no operations or anything are done to his ligaments. It's pretty much impossible for him to have been able to walk after being taken out of the Matrix w/o surgery and rehabilitation.
-Morpheus says that he's been looking for Neo his entire life, but he got out of the Matrix probably as a teenager and wasn't allowed to be on a ship till about 17. So that means he's been looking for Neo for at least half his life.
-Link says that Neo's "doing his Superman thing", but Link is from Zion, not the Matrix, and though he may have been told about him, how does he know who Superman is?

the second one can no way be a hole

i agree. so wut if some time was spent, o i dunno...being born and maturing? come on.
one hole in the matrix movies is seraph...basically his existance, cuz he wasnt in the first, and jus shows up like the oracle's best friend. and he wasnt met in the 6 months between M1 n M2, cuz neo didnt know him.

Seraph may have been still working for the Merovingian, but helping out the Oracle.

Unknown>

“-Neo has been in the pod his entire life, yet when taken out, no operations or anything are done to his ligaments. It's pretty much impossible for him to have been able to walk after being taken out of the Matrix w/o surgery and rehabilitation.”

Remember the acupuncture-looking needles? This is the future, so said needles are the “operation” done to work on his muscles and ligaments.”

“-Morpheus says that he's been looking for Neo his entire life, but he got out of the Matrix probably as a teenager and wasn't allowed to be on a ship till about 17. So that means he's been looking for Neo for at least half his life.”

It’s a figure of speech. Of course Morpheus wasn’t born in a pod and went “MUST… Find… Neo.” And Morpheus does say “There are those of us who’ve spend our entire lives…”

-Link says that Neo's "doing his Superman thing", but Link is from Zion, not the Matrix, and though he may have been told about him, how does he know who Superman is?

True. Link is Zion born. But hanging around with freed humans could rub off. Every western pod-born would know about Superman.

Originally posted by The Omega
Unknown>

Remember the acupuncture-looking needles? This is the future, so said needles are the “operation” done to work on his muscles and ligaments.”

He'd still need rehabilitation and stuff. He couldn't just stand up and suddenly be able to walk.

Unknown> We don't really know for HOW long Neo's in "needle-surgery". Let's say it's about a month. Today, after having been in a pod for 30 years, no surgery could. But this is sci-fi so their tech can do it ✅
It did, didn't it 😄

Originally posted by The Omega
Unknown> We don't really know for HOW long Neo's in "needle-surgery". Let's say it's about a month. Today, after having been in a pod for 30 years, no surgery could. But this is sci-fi so their tech can do it ✅
It did, didn't it 😄

Thats a nice reason. meta already stated that. afterall it was a movie of some small duration. they didnt have time 4 doing all that stuff or to show it. we can simply take it ourselves

Matrix revolution is so boring 🙁

Originally posted by Leon s.kenedy
Matrix revolution

Is that even a hole?!?!?!?

Originally posted by Leon s.kenedy
Matrix revolution is so boring 🙁

heyyyyyyyyy
thats not a hole
point out any incident from the movies with acceptable reasons