Holes in The Matrix Movies

Originally posted by ITALIAN926
In Reloaded, in the flipping car that the agent jumped on, the whole underside is empty, no trans, fuel tank, exhaust nuthin!!! It was pretty obvious to me !! Dont think it was to cut costs though

If this user even comes here anymore, go back to freakin' movie school.

Try flipping a real Caddy Escalade as high as it goes in the film, with the full stock body. They have to take out most of the inside, most of the underneath, anything that will lose the thing weight.
It doesn't mean anything in the film, it was purely to help acheive the affect.

May be this question is stupid, but please answer if u know.
in the architect scene, one door is to save the world, another is to save Trinity, rite? so which door did Neo chose?

the door to save trinity

I heard that the matricks's religon might be christen because of the meaning of each of the names and the word zion that apears in christen bibles.
Not sure through but thought it would be interesting to think about.JM

Originally posted by JediHDM
the door to save trinity

huh? neo choose the door to save trinity? Is it posible that neo is actually choose the door to save the world, but wachowski show the screen that lead us to thought neo wasn't? My fren told me the direction of the door that neo move towards was to save the world, is that correct?

You're friend is wrong. Directly...That is.

Eventually, it does save the world and ends the war.

Originally posted by xeous
Eventually, it does save the world and ends the war.

if so, the door to save trinity can eventually save the world, then what is the purpose of another door? Is that mean both door also can save the world? What will happen if neo choose another door?

If Neo choose the other door, Trinity would have died and the Matrix would have been reset. Zion would have been destroyed and the 23 individuals(wow, I'm not even sure that's the right number...Been so long since I've seen these movies.) would have been selected to rebuild.

The whole choice revolves around Trin.

OoOOooo!!! I found a hole!! Speaking of Trinity......if she knows that the French guy and Persenophe are only programs.....why would she display signs of Jeaously when Neo Kisses Persenephoe? You would think the kiss wasn't real....right? So why would she be jeaously of a program?

well, even because she knows peresphone is a program, she just loves neo so much that she gets jealous at the sight of him kissing another chick. like, thinkabout it. i have a girlfriend that i love a whole bunch. and if their were like, human robots, and i saw her making out with one, i'd be sooo pissed even though i knew the robot didnt feel emotion or anything. same with peresphone. her love for him is just so much that even though peresphone is not real, she becomes jealous. ya know?

If Neo does save the world, why the matrix still exist?

because the machines still are using the humans as energy, they just rn't at war nemore, as in they dont have to worry about sentinels nemore. at least i think. and if i'm wrong, then i think taht the matrix exists only for programs like the architecht, the oracle, the merovingian, seraph, etc. because im the end of revolutions, u see no people at all except seraph, the little girl, the oracle, and the architecht. or maybe it doesnt still exist, and it only exists until they "unplug" all th epeople in the world. then after they are all unplugged, the matrix program will be destroyed?

Originally posted by bazooka
If Neo does save the world, why the matrix still exist?

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bazooka:
Neo didn't save the world. Common misconception. He saved Zion and brought a virtual end to the war. The people in Zion know that you cannot just unplug everyone. To do so would first and foremost kill all the AI - which they would not allow. As powerful as Neo was, he could not stop all the machines alone. Second, consider the human cost and what was mentioned in the first movie. After Neo "Popped" from being in the construct when Morpheus told him what the Matrix was - Morpheus stated something close to:

"I must apologize, we have a rule. We do not free a mind after it has reached a certain age; the mind has trouble letting go. I'm sorry. I only did what I did because I believe I had to."

That's not just saying "I believe you're the one," but also that older minds most adjusted to the world of the Matrix are not freed unless absolutely necessary.

After the 3rd movie you would expect to see the Matrix allow the release of those who "wished to be freed" as stated by the Architect at the end of Revo - but the Matrix would continue on. Possible other scenarios include humans and machine working together to solve the scorched sky, or find another source of power for the AI so they could phase out the Matrix - not just unplug it.

If it were just unplugged to many people would reject their new surroundings and mass panic, suicide, confusion, and a whole host of psychological problems would ensue. I think it would be agreed in Zion to let the Matrix stand while they rebuilt the world around them.

Originally posted by WindDancer
OoOOooo!!! I found a hole!! Speaking of Trinity......if she knows that the French guy and Persenophe are only programs.....why would she display signs of Jeaously when Neo Kisses Persenephoe? You would think the kiss wasn't real....right? So why would she be jeaously of a program?

Because, if you're a girl and you're in love and the guy you're in love with is kissing someone else, particularly right in front of you, you're GOING to be jealous even if you know it means nothing or isn't real 😛

I'm pretty sure that if it were a reverse situation, if Trin had to kiss someone, Neo would be pretty pissed off, too.

Originally posted by oxymoron_02
If this user even comes here anymore, go back to freakin' movie school.

Try flipping a [b]real Caddy Escalade as high as it goes in the film, with the full stock body. They have to take out most of the inside, most of the underneath, anything that will lose the thing weight.
It doesn't mean anything in the film, it was purely to help acheive the affect. [/B]

OoooOOo!!! Found another plothole 😛

When Morpheous mentions to Neo about the truth during the blue pill and red pill scene in the original film......Morpheous lied! He didn't really know the truth! He only knew certain parts of the truth. The real truth was revealed by the architect in Reloaded. 😄

Morpheus believed, to the point of knowing, and deluding him self to everything else, that the prophecy was true, so he believed it

yes, morpeheus was so hung up on the fact that the propehcy was true, that he wouldnt believe in anyting else. so he was so hung up on this for such a long time, that he finally just thought that it was 100% right, cuz it's the way he's always thought

In reality we all have Neo's power. none of us believe it strong enough for it to be shown. just like in the beginning, Neo didn't and couldn't exhibit any kinds of power....until he practiced within the training programs. of course we have no training programs...but if we did - we would be able to do the same things.