what is going on here??????? look juggie is as powerful as some heros that have given hulk a good kicking, or a good match etc, but the difference with a major fight is hulk alwys hs the advantage as he can be written to be as powerful as is required to do the task, in this case beat up on juggie, yet still remain true to his character. all this infinite power for juggie rubbish is just that rubbish, he only has access to a small fraction of cyttoraks limited power. hulks rage/power/strength is unlimited, characteristically he is made to have enough power to do what is required. that being the case anyone stepping into a brawl with hulk without something else up their sleeve is in danger of getting whooped should the story require it. and before you idiots out there start saying you could write spiderman being powerful enough, that would be outside spiderman as a character and therefore very unrealistic, with hulk, it wouldnt be. also what makes anyone here think juggie can knock out savage hulk????????????
Originally posted by Tough Guy
what is going on here??????? look juggie is as powerful as some heros that have given hulk a good kicking, or a good match etc, but the difference with a major fight is hulk alwys hs the advantage as he can be written to be as powerful as is required to do the task, in this case beat up on juggie, yet still remain true to his character. all this infinite power for juggie rubbish is just that rubbish, he only has access to a small fraction of cyttoraks limited power. hulks rage/power/strength is unlimited, characteristically he is made to have enough power to do what is required. that being the case anyone stepping into a brawl with hulk without something else up their sleeve is in danger of getting whooped should the story require it. and before you idiots out there start saying you could write spiderman being powerful enough, that would be outside spiderman as a character and therefore very unrealistic, with hulk, it wouldnt be. also what makes anyone here think juggie can knock out savage hulk????????????
So characteristically Juggernaut doesn't have enough power to do what's required of him?
Since when?
juggernaut beat the professor hulk.savage hulk and juggernaut fought to a draw. warhulk kicked the shit out juggernaut. onslaught beat juggernaut and hulk beat onslaught. Juggernaut no longer has the jewel anymore so his power has dropped, he is second to colossus in strength. Juggernaut got his ass kicked by gladiator who got his ass kicked by the hulk. Todays Juggernaut will get his as kicked the hulk right now, all day everyday of the week.
sigh again i have to repeat myself. We are talking about old school juggernaut, not the current one. The current one is not second to colossus, he still has class 100, but probably peaks at 200 tons im assuming, collossus is level 100 right now, jobbernaut was in the danger room, and he was pushing some machine, and havok come on cain ur not at collossus level strength yet, he said keep on putting more juice to the machine.
secondly tough guy i dont know how many times i have to say this. HULK cannot HURT juggernaut, no matter how strong he gets.
i posted up all 4 fights they had wanna recap cause u seem not to understand facts?
fight number 1- savage hulk and juggernaut fought, to the point where savage hulk got tired and started losing strength. the x-men show up and xavier and jean knock him out with telepathy not the HULK
fight 2 - Juggernaut knocks out the hulk.
fight 3 - Juggernaut gets knocked out by a psychic backlash, not hulk.
fight 4 . war hulk beats juggernaut, but fails to knock him out, cause with all his power he cant.
so Hulk has never knocked out Juggernaut ever! nor he cannot knock him out, But juggernaut has.
here are the fights, see for urself.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15217&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=174
try being less ignorant to the facts next time.
linkasaurus re read my post and dont answer with such rubbish, im saying juggies character is not one who has a limitless amount of power ( in hulks case strength) to rely on to accomplish whatever task he is set with. im only talking about the actual characters here. hulks limitless strength only requires anger to happen, juggie only has access to a small amount of cyttoraks power, and cyttorak himself is not limitless in power so hulk theoretically can overpower him given long enough, he has the ability within his character to do this its whether the writers would use hulk to his full capacity or not
doesnt matter he still cant hurt juggernaut, dont u get it. Hulk can overpower juggernaut, whoopty doo, he still cant hurt him man. Full capacity or not doesnt matter.
And ur wrong, Old juggernaut is power is not limitless, no one has seen his extent of his powers, so that argument is flawed. come on now cyttorak, lol this is getting silly
Hulk isnt limitless in power, he is limitless in strength thats all. big difference between strength and power.