forget the pyhthon rubbish it was in some or other annual, same as hulk getting winded by batman and force fed sleeping pills in another, this shows the inconsistancies with hulk in the amount of comics he is in. i mean , shatters an object twice the size of earth yet gets winded by batman.hmmmmmmmm.
hulk would get strong enough as to be too powerful for cyttoraks enchantment, end of story, thats what the hulk is about.
war hurt juggie, he looked in pain, also in fear also was about to be beheaded, he was thrashed, end of story.
maestro v juggie would be over b4 it began.
savage v juggie would be over once hulk went psychotic and thats well within his character to do so
juggies unlimited strength factor seems to have originated along this thread, he is ludicrously strong ( too strong for the x men etc) but is not without limit as cyttoraks power itself is not limitless.
Being the son of Gaea allows you to have certian perks, like casting nearly unbreakable spells.
A spell directly from Cyttorak can not be broken by anyone under basically celestials. Hulk has no chance to break it.
Cyttorak is the only few Gods to be considered a god and a demon at the same time.
Cyttorak>Odin(yes, he is)
Odin>thor
Thor=Hulk
And who the hell said Cyttoraks power is limited?
When was Cyttorak referred to as a god?
Juggernaut has a portion of Cyttorak's power as an exemplar. The Savage Hulk has met and exceeded the strength levels of low order Celestials; he has no limit, and this notion has been reiterated by narration, writers, and characters alike. Juggernaut does have a limit to his strength. Throughout his comics, his strength has never been said to be limitless, thus it must have limits. The fact that he hasn't demonstrated a maximum output doesn't prove his strength is limitless.
Which annual does Hulk get knocked out by python in?
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
When was Cyttorak referred to as a god?Juggernaut has a portion of Cyttorak's power as an exemplar. The Savage Hulk has met and exceeded the strength levels of low order Celestials; he has no limit, and this notion has been reiterated by narration, writers, and characters alike. Juggernaut does have a limit to his strength. Throughout his comics, his strength has never been said to be limitless, thus it must have limits. The fact that he hasn't demonstrated a maximum output doesn't prove his strength is limitless.
Which annual does Hulk get knocked out by python in?
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
When was Cyttorak referred to as a god?Juggernaut has a portion of Cyttorak's power as an exemplar. The Savage Hulk has met and exceeded the strength levels of low order Celestials; he has no limit, and this notion has been reiterated by narration, writers, and characters alike. Juggernaut does have a limit to his strength. Throughout his comics, his strength has never been said to be limitless, thus it must have limits. The fact that he hasn't demonstrated a maximum output doesn't prove his strength is limitless.
Which annual does Hulk get knocked out by python in?
Are you serious? Odin refers to Cyttorak as a god and a demon.
Everytime Cyt is in a comic he is referred to as a god/demon or deity.
Throughout his comics, his strength has never been said to be limitless,
The fact that he hasn't demonstrated a maximum output doesn't prove his strength is limitless.
The python attack happend in the mid 70's, Hulk has went thru a few upgrades since then so I dont know if i consider it applicable.
Met the STRENGTH level of low grade Celestials, not the POWER.
Hulk could theoretically become as strong as Galactus, but it still would mean shit if Galactus faught him.
No matter how strong his physical, Hulk can't break a spell made directly by Cyttorak. He isn't going to hurt Jugs or K.O jugs, as long as Jugs is powered by a spell from Cyttorak he can not be hurt physically. Even Galactus has been takin down my Cyttoraks magic.
Originally posted by long pig
Are you serious? Odin refers to Cyttorak as a god and a demon.
Everytime Cyt is in a comic he is referred to as a god/demon or deity.Well, it's never been said he strength had limits either, or even hinted to the fact he has limits.
Doesn't prove it has limits either. Even so, if it were limited, it's limits would be so high Hulk would never have time enough to reach it via his own means.
The python attack happend in the mid 70's, Hulk has went thru a few upgrades since then so I dont know if i consider it applicable.
Met the STRENGTH level of low grade Celestials, not the POWER.
Hulk could theoretically become as strong as Galactus, but it still would mean shit if Galactus faught him.No matter how strong his physical, Hulk can't break a spell made directly by Cyttorak. He isn't going to hurt Jugs or K.O jugs, as long as Jugs is powered by a spell from Cyttorak he can not be hurt physically. Even Galactus has been takin down my Cyttoraks magic.
Juggernaut's strength has never been said to be limitless, hence it's assumed to have some limit. People often mistakenly think that all people in Class 100 have strength level that falls between 100 and 199. Juggernaut's strength is easily in the 100,000's; simply gauging his feats makes this evident. However, this strength has never been said to be limitless, thus we must assume there is a limit.
Hulk matched the strength of Celestials, not the power. The Hulk can match the physical strength of anyone below The One Above All.
Hulk doesn't feel pain either, and it takes something more than punches to seriously harm him. Don't forget that the Hulk's durability and healing factor increase dramatically as his rage does. Any chances Juggernaut has of winning will be in early in the fight.
You may be right. Maybe Juggernaut can't be knocked unconcious. Knockout isn't the only way to win a fight.
Galactus harmed by Cyttorak's magic? When?
Jug's limit is Cyttoraks limit, Cyttorak is above anything Hulk would ever be able to do.
Strength has no meaning against jugs. Never has.
Yes, hulk does get more durable...and yes Jug would K.O him before he gets more durable....now if you're relying on the fact Hulk could somehow get a Ring-Out win, then it's different. Most of us aren't going for a ring out.....if we wanted that we'd read the hulk vs jug battles in comics. thats the only way Hulk wins.
Galactus was unable to free himself from the Bands of Cyttorak.
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Cyttoraks bands are only as powerful as the person who uses the spell, that's how Hulk broke it once. But by someone with greater magic i.e Cyttorak himself, they are unbreakable.
Hulk has no logical chance of beating Jugs other than wuss way i.e ring out.
Originally posted by long pig
hmm -edit- messed up.
Juggernaut is not Cyttorak. He is an exemplar. That's like saying the Silver Surfer's limit is Galactus's limit.
How would Juggernaut knock Hulk out first? He hasn't suceeded in the past. A ring out isn't the only other option. Juggernaut's durability is still in question.
-edit- When did Cyttorak fight against Galactus?
Big difference between SS and Jugs.
SS was only a TOOL for Galactus, Jugs was a way for Cyttorak to be WORSHIPPED. So by common sense he would have more power from Cyttorak than SS would have from Galactus, seeing SS is a despensable tool, and Jugs being Cyttoraks way to be worshipped.
I can't tell you the exact time and issue Galactus was held by the bands, so you can call it a lie if ya want.
Galactic Storm may know, I think he brought it up once before....and I've seen the scans from a dr. strange website.
Either Steve cast the bands or Cyttorak did....I assumed Cyttorak due to the fact Galactus couldnt break free.
Originally posted by long pig
Big difference between SS and Jugs.SS was only a TOOL for Galactus, Jugs was a way for Cyttorak to be WORSHIPPED. So by common sense he would have more power from Cyttorak than SS would have from Galactus, seeing SS is a despensable tool, and Jugs being Cyttoraks way to be worshipped.
I can't tell you the exact time and issue Galactus was held by the bands, so you can call it a lie if ya want.
Galactic Storm may know, I think he brought it up once before....and I've seen the scans from a dr. strange website.
Either Steve cast the bands or Cyttorak did....I assumed Cyttorak due to the fact Galactus couldnt break free.
They are very similar as well. Both are avatars of a greater power. Silver Surfer was created to find planets for Galactus to devour, and announce his coming. Juggernaut was created to exemplify Cyttorak's power. Juggernaut is not Cyttorak. He has a fraction of Cyttorak's power.
Not calling you a liar, you've never lied to me in the past. I doubt Cyttorak cast the spell. Cyttorak doesn't act independently of sorcerers or exemplars.