Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by long pig486 pages

Some folks here assume you're lying if you don't show them perfect proof.

Actually, Cyttorak does act independantly in his own universe The Crimson Cosmos.
Ever wonder why Galactus never tried to eat his world? It's surely filled with energy....more than any other planet.

I agree that Jug is only a exepmlar of Cyttorak, but still....which would get more power?
A tool you use for food or your exemplar that you wish to be worshiped through? Jug has more of Cyttoraks power than SS has of Galactus, it's only logical to believe that.

There would only ever be ONE Juggernaut, Heralds are to be replaced. ie. terrax/firestorm/destroyer/ and the rest of the many Heralds that replaced SS.

Originally posted by long pig
Some folks here assume you're lying if you don't show them perfect proof.

Actually, Cyttorak does act independantly in his own universe The Crimson Cosmos.
Ever wonder why Galactus never tried to eat his world? It's surely filled with energy....more than any other planet.

I agree that Jug is only a exepmlar of Cyttorak, but still....which would get more power?
A tool you use for food or your exemplar that you wish to be worshiped through? Jug has more of Cyttoraks power than SS has of Galactus, it's only logical to believe that.

There would only ever be ONE Juggernaut, Heralds are to be replaced. ie. terrax/firestorm/destroyer/ and the rest of the many Heralds that replaced SS.


I'm sure there have been Juggernauts before Cain Marko.

The Crimson Cosmos is Cyttorak's realm. It's another dimension, not just a planet.

I see what you're saying, but comparing a fork to an alter isn't really how I percieved this. Juggernaut doesn't have all of Cyttorak's power, as an exemplar, he has a portion of it.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I'm sure there have been Juggernauts before Cain Marko.

The Crimson Cosmos is Cyttorak's realm. It's another dimension, not just a planet.

I see what you're saying, but comparing a fork to an alter isn't really how I percieved this. Juggernaut doesn't have all of Cyttorak's power, as an exemplar, he has a portion of it.

Well, Juggernauts are Immortal, so it makes sense there would only be one real juggernaut to last forever.(unless Cyttorak doesn't like the person, and he doesnt like Cain anymore, thats why he took back his powers)

I don't think Jug has all of Cyttoraks power, but I do think he has a large portion of it.

Compair this to something common like... jesus having some of gods actual powers.

Jug is Cyttoraks "jesus" Jug is supposed to get the word out about Cyttorak so he may be worshipped, therefore Jug would be very powerful to show humans the power of Cyttorak.

You're not going to make your "jesus" vulnerable to being punched to death unless thats what you want, obviously Cyttorak doesn't want that. Therefore logically Jug is a major portion of Cyttorak's power.

I wouldn't go so far as to compare Juggernaut to Jesus in power ratio. Jesus had all of God's power, and he was a tool.

HOLY HWFF!

Hwff.

Jesus had all of God's power, and he was a tool.

lol how dare you?

long pig your arguments have been dealt with time and again on here, if u read back a few pages you will see . it seems as soon as a few juggie fans pop up we get the same old arguments coming through, juggie is indestructable, juggie is stronger, juggie has more of cyttoraks magic etc etc, hulk ismore than capable of exceeding the level of physical power that would harm juggie as he has no limits, juggie only has a portion of cyttoraks power, and cyttoraks power is limitless, and hulk has demonstrated over and over again he is a match for anything physically, and that includes juggie im afraid.
now u can bring up inconsistancies with hulks characters in the comics as has been done, ie being knocked out by namour, a python, tripping over a daisy if u like , but thats not hulks character at fault, but writers who chose to ben hulk this way or that for a particular story, or to highlight hulks vulnerable side which is one of his appealing qualities as a character. but these dont detract from a character that was created to raise his level of strengtghh to whatever level is required, overpowering enchantments, lifting, smashing etc just by getting madder, also healing quicker to the point of instant healing, now that is hulk, and as a character u need to come up with more than fighting him on a physical level to beat him as his character is there to be the peak basiclaay of physical power. juggie would only be protected for a while in a fight. juggie in nature is more of an unstoppable object when in motion, who happens to have class 100 strength and very high durability, this thread seems to be adding way to much to his character, as u also must remember he is a bit part player , not on the same level as hulk in comic appearances so therefore wont have to be shown with so many inconsistancies

i meant cyttoraks magic is limited earlier sorry

Originally posted by Tough Guy
your arguments have been dealt with time and again

Hehe, when I read this part I was thinking "Someone finally said it" but I thought they were talking about you.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Hehe, when I read this part I was thinking "Someone finally said it" but I thought they were talking about you.

Damn, I thought they were talking about you.

Now it's someone elses turn to post and say the same thing about me.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Damn, I thought they were talking about you.

Now it's someone elses turn to post and say the same thing about me.

i thought they were talking about you 😉

dont worry i'll be here all week...

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Actually, you're wrong. Savage Hulk destroyed a machine built to destroy Celestials, and he destroyed a device built specifically to restrain deviant Celestials.

Don't be decieved. War Hulk didn't have the strength of a Celestial. Hulk matched the strength of Celestials, not the power. The Hulk can match the physical strength of anyone below The One Above All.


That's was I was saying.I putted the "" before the Celestial word just to intend what you've said.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I wouldn't go so far as to compare Juggernaut to Jesus in power ratio. Jesus had all of God's power, and he was a tool.

Is Jesus the only tool round here cuby 😆 I guess it takes one to know one you don't want to offend anyones belief system 🙁

Ok. It comes down to magic vs muscle. I firmly believe that magic prevails.

According to the Hulk Incredible guide this is a quote.

"BITTER RIVALS"

Though the juggernaut is the hypothetical irresistible force, the hulk is equally theoretical immovable object. no matter how many times they have battled, neither has ever won a decisive victory over the other. they are just too evenly matched...........

There u have it folks right from the guide, i totally agree with that.

Well if Hulk was the smart Hulk I could see him having an edge, but if Hulk vs Juggy in general. Yeah 50/50.

The smart hulk got knocked out by Juggernaut, he doesnt have any edge. The only hulk with an edge is the savage hulk.

What I mean is the smart Hulk could figure out a way to defeat Juggy b/c he's smart. I guess if Juggy has knocked him out then okay. Juggy would win.

But I called 50/50. I stand by that.

so does majority in this thread. although some people never give up lolol