well my points are still unchallenged ( successfully anyway). hulk is stronger, the difference between the two durability wise is negligable when hulk is mad. hulk is one character who has the ability to just get as strong as needed to do what he has to ( limitless strength potential and healing) i dont see how any one can back juggie ( based on a hulk written on good form, not being suffocated by pythons that wouldnt have enough strength to suffocate even a calm hulk.)
'well my points are still unchallenged ( successfully anyway). hulk is stronger, the difference between the two durability wise is negligible when hulk is mad. hulk is one character who has the ability to just get as strong as needed to do what he has to ( limitless strength potential and healing) i don't see how any one can back juggie ( based on a hulk written on good form, not being suffocated by pythons that wouldn't have enough strength to suffocate even a calm hulk.)'
Nahh mate
I've never commented on this thread before because i honestly think it will be a draw.
If Juggernaut continually protects himself without forcefield of his Hulk is going to have to get unbelievably angry to even come close to hurting him .
E.g. More angry than he has ever been before
And way before he has gets this angry his durability would have become to great of Juggernaut to really hurt the Hulk.
With these two factors in mind, the match becomes a draw.
first off juggernaut can be stopped by the X-men which disregards the whole unstoppable thing. secondly Gladiator has beaten the crap out of him with ease and guess who’s kicked the crap out of gladiator? That’s right the hulk. juggernaut has got his ass handed to him by the hulk many time though I wont lie they are great fights between juggernaut and the hulk though in the end hulk will come out on top in this fight.
Originally posted by Tough Guy
well my points are still unchallenged ( successfully anyway). hulk is stronger, the difference between the two durability wise is negligable when hulk is mad. hulk is one character who has the ability to just get as strong as needed to do what he has to ( limitless strength potential and healing) i dont see how any one can back juggie ( based on a hulk written on good form, not being suffocated by pythons that wouldnt have enough strength to suffocate even a calm hulk.)
Ummmm, your points have been successfully challenged. Problem is, you come back and say the same things over and over. I think no one really debates it with you anymore because they're tired of seeing the same thing, and people get tired of repeating themselves, everyone else anyway.
Originally posted by Savior
first off juggernaut can be stopped by the X-men which disregards the whole unstoppable thing. secondly Gladiator has beaten the crap out of him with ease and guess who’s kicked the crap out of gladiator? That’s right the hulk. juggernaut has got his ass handed to him by the hulk many time though I wont lie they are great fights between juggernaut and the hulk though in the end hulk will come out on top in this fight.
First off, the X-Men always beat him the same way, psychics. Is Hulk a psychic? Nope, so that's pretty much disregarded. And Gladiator and Juggernaut have never met in the comics, and you're talking about the cartoon, which is also disregarded here, cause there's a difference between cartoon feats and comic feats. And Hulk and Juggernaut have fought on four occasions, and I don't know where you're getting your sources, but they've been pretty even matches, minus when Juggernaut knocked Hulk unconcious nearly killing him, and when Hulk was boosted with Celestial armor. So next time, I suggest you have all your facts straight before you come on here sounding so sure of yourself.
And has has been said many times, with either of these characters (both written in good from), it can go either way. It just depends on the circumstances, and whoever happens to be lucky that day.
tron tron u dimwinkle lol. nobody has put a serious rebuttle against my points so it remains valid and i wil repeat it as long as i read the endless drivle comig on here for juggernaut. hbuk was not nearly killed lol get a grip . hulk has overpowered juggie in every other fight there is no question there . the only question is whether hulk would be able to get strong enough to negate juggies enchantment and actually ko or hurt him. i believe infinite strength answers that question.
First off, for people asking to "prove limitless strength" that's pretty much impossible to prove. <---I get tired of that flawed argument, even if it goes against me.
To Tough Guy, Hulk has as much chance of negating Jugs enchantment as Jug's chance of K.Oing Hulk the first or second punch, which ain't much, but possible....I guess.
So basically, it's a mother****ing draw. Stop saying it isn't because it is. Neither can do jack shit to the other.
This debate has went on long enough, everything has been countered, everything has been said. Everyone(with any info on both fighters) agrees it's a draw, except you.
So, everyone is wrong, right?
Yep, they both can fight for eternity. Jug will still be around in a trillion years, he will never die.
Jug is up there in power, I mean...neither Thor nor Surfer can harm him.
He's near cosmic....well....Cyttorak is cosmic, so I'd guess Jugs is as well. I wish jug would do this:
Lose some strength/invulnerability, keep his shield, and learn magic.
His body is capable of magic beyond that of even Strange, he just doesn't know how yet, but if he did....sheesh.
Originally posted by long pig
First off, for people asking to "prove limitless strength" that's pretty much impossible to prove. <---I get tired of that flawed argument, even if it goes against me.To Tough Guy, Hulk has as much chance of negating Jugs enchantment as Jug's chance of K.Oing Hulk the first or second punch, which ain't much, but possible....I guess.
So basically, it's a mother****ing draw. Stop saying it isn't because it is. Neither can do jack shit to the other.
This debate has went on long enough, everything has been countered, everything has been said. Everyone(with any info on both fighters) agrees it's a draw, except you.
So, everyone is wrong, right?
Originally posted by Tron
Ummmm, your points have been successfully challenged. Problem is, you come back and say the same things over and over. I think no one really debates it with you anymore because they're tired of seeing the same thing, and people get tired of repeating themselves, everyone else anyway.First off, the X-Men always beat him the same way, psychics. Is Hulk a psychic? Nope, so that's pretty much disregarded. And Gladiator and Juggernaut have never met in the comics, and you're talking about the cartoon, which is also disregarded here, cause there's a difference between cartoon feats and comic feats. And Hulk and Juggernaut have fought on four occasions, and I don't know where you're getting your sources, but they've been pretty even matches, minus when Juggernaut knocked Hulk unconcious nearly killing him, and when Hulk was boosted with Celestial armor. So next time, I suggest you have all your facts straight before you come on here sounding so sure of yourself.
And has has been said many times, with either of these characters (both written in good from), it can go either way. It just depends on the circumstances, and whoever happens to be lucky that day.
Thank you, Tron. Glad to see that there are more people out there who actually know what they're talking about.
Don't worry, guys. I know there are a bunch of you that also feel the same way, I didn't forget you guys. I was just using Tron's post as an example.
And to the person that won't believe that Juggs has knocked out and almost killed Hulk, maybe you should look back a hundred or more pages, where someone posted pictures from a comic in which, you guessed it, Juggy overpowered Hulk and knocked him out. And was about to kill him might I add.
So, in conclusion, it's a freakin draw. God.
listen to my question again i shall repeat it. the question is not whether hulk can overpower juggie. obviously he can strength wise. the question is can hulk get freakishly strong ( broke unbreakable onslaught armour, matter anti matter maessing, tossed glads around like a rag doll, etc etc) that he could well end up negating juggies enchantment. you guys just saying he cant coz cyttorak ( not that powerful and i believe hulk has smashed enchantments by higher beings) has stated this or that is not an answer especially to marvels mightiest. hulk was not nearly killed when juggie took him by surprise and surprise surprise floored him when he got a bit angrier. and that was prof hulk, not savage.. juggie i think and im sorry to say seems to have been feited a little to much here. er so yes everyone at loggerheads with me is wrong in as much as they just seem to state juggie wont ever be hurt etc which is a load of fandangoes