Juggernaut or The Hulk?

None "beat" the other. Both fight wer unfair if you look at it. First started with a cheap shot and second Hulk only did it after Jugs got that telepathic blast to confuse him.

The first fight was fair. Juggernaut had street clothes on.

But how is that cheating? Prof. Hulk is supposed to be smart.

After being overpowered twice by him you would think that Hulk wouldnt take him lightly.

"The first fight was fair. Juggernaut had street clothes on.

But how is that cheating? Prof. Hulk is supposed to be smart."

You might be right but i remember this way: hulk never saw him without the helmet before. So cain could come close and start with a cheap shot.

Of course doesnt change the fact Cain "won" against him.

Hulk should have known that he was facing a menace.

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Originally posted by snoopdogg
The first fight was fair. Juggernaut had street clothes on.

But how is that cheating? Prof. Hulk is supposed to be smart.

After being overpowered twice by him you would think that Hulk wouldnt take him lightly.

Hmm Hulk was already overpowered by him twice eh?

Anyway, Prof Hulk hadnt been around very long at this point, he was a new being, but he demonstrated he had some of the experience of his other personalities. He always had the same plot, He'd come in overconfident like Grey Hulk, but knowing he now had the superior strength of Green Hulk, would get his butt kicked, then would get mean and angry in a Gree/Grey combination, and beat/kill anyone in his way...including Juggernaut who he did eventually beat.

Does anyone have that first full fight?

No, if u think about it, the Hulk has a disproportionate number of 100+ strength enemies in his past: Abomination, Madman, Ironclad, Glob, Bi-Beast, Trauma...Juggernaut's strength really doesnt make an impression compared to these guys.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Hmm Hulk was already overpowered by him twice eh?

Hulk should have known he wasnt up against some oridanary dude.

Originally posted by olympian
Does anyone have that first full fight?

yep..that was it..the whole fight...Jugs KO'd him with one ramming

Originally posted by Wynndar
yep..that was it..the whole fight...Jugs KO'd him with one ramming

Pay attention. 😉

He Thanks 😉

After Hulk ran away the X-men came and took out Cain with some telepathy

I think ur taking that fight much too literally. Its already been determined that the Hulk has lmitless stamina too. And in a comic book written in the 60's every villain has to appear to have some advantage. I mean, the Rhino, Mongul, Abomination, The Glob, they all showed an advantage for a while too. Jugs advantage in that fight was very slim though if any. In that same period Guys like Abomination, Bi-Beast, The Glob, Xemnu, etc all showed decisive victories or at least advantages over the Hulk...I mean the writer had to have a story.

That book was written in 1972 😉

Logic wise: stalemate

Comic wise: the feats don't stay the same between writer so its hard to tell, when people see tis a stalemate, others come and restart feats, which I'm sure has all been shown here before.

We already said its a stalemate. Never went other way with both being into the fight.

The rest is having fun 😛

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That book was written in 1972 😉

Regardless, it doesnt change the point i was making. I was trying to say that every comic back then, the villain always seems unbeatable at first. Juggernaut didnt even seem that unbeatable in that issue compared to other Hulk enemies who totally punked the Hulk. Juggernaut went back and forth and it was nothing more than a draw. And Jugs talking about how powerful he was.

I still don't see how you can think Jugs "felt" the punch from Prof.Hulk, he didn't, he was knocked down....and that's it.

Being knocked down doesn't mean much, especially when you are in the process of getting back up.

Prof Hulk lifts 100tons, jug weighs less than one ton, so being knocked down is almost impossible not to happen. But it's clear he didn't feel it or was hurt by it.