Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by thesilverspider486 pages
thesilverspider Senior Member

Originally posted by long pig
Not really.

Either a telepath or he's teleported away.

............or gets stuck in cement............ 😉

long pig Restricted

Originally posted by thesilverspider
............or gets stuck in cement............ 😉

That's ALMOST as bad as Hulk being K.O'd by a python.

But, hey...shit happens.

thesilverspider Senior Member

Originally posted by long pig
That's ALMOST as bad as Hulk being K.O'd by a python.

But, hey...shit happens.

or juggs drowning................. 😆

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Yeah, that cement thing was bunk but hey, that's spidey for ya. I just don't get why Juggernaut sunk that far to begin with. Or sunk in the quicksand for that matter.

Originally posted by Eternity
Didnt juggernaut get hit miles away by onslaught? Guess what hulk destroyed his armor. Celestial tech also only enhanced hulks powers.
Hulk was about to cut off his head if not for absorbing man who hulk also thrashed

You neglect the situation though. For one, the whole Onslaught ordeal was full of plotholes. Psylocke was reading his mind through his helmets, Hulk was getting taken down by attacks based on the knowledge you'd gain from skimming a pamphlet on the human body.

When Juggernaut landed from the almighty backhand I think Beast mentioned that his heart was failing or something like that but after seeing him stripped to a skeleton and continue being Juggernaut-ful, I'm pretty sure he doesn't even need internal organs to survive. Why would his organs fail and why would it affect him?

And Jean Grey tinkered with Hulks mind, enhancing his strength to the point where he could crack his armor and make him stronger.

Originally posted by Eternity
Juggernaut does not have limitless strength only limitless invunrebility. In the hulk 2005 annual he was actually rated class 90 not saying this is correct just proving he does not have limitless strength but hulk does.
Juggernaut is not unstopable as seen in the onslaught saga.

The onslaught arc marked when Juggernaut's powers went downwards so at the time, Juggernaut probably was class 90.

By becoming a good guy, his powers got dropped. It's the golden rule of defecting.

Blain Junior Member

Some ratings thing like Hulk annuals isn't cannon. Infact, that editorial comment I posted is more cannon than that. And that said that MOST PEOPLE AT MARVEL believe Juggs is the STRONGEST with UNLIMITED STRENGTH!

I don't get what is so difficult for you Hulk fans to understand? Classic jugs can NOT be hurt, less killed! How could Hulk kill him through only physical means? HE CAN'T!!!

Also, I don't care if it is celestial tech, that was still bad writing for having jugs be stopped. Almost as bad as the Onslaught arch.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

I'm not surprised about Celestial tech stopping Juggernaut. The Celestials waged war with Asgard and won. They friggen won! In my book, Celestials can do what they want. Plus they're giant space robots. Powerful cool.

long pig Restricted

Originally posted by thesilverspider
or juggs drowning................. 😆

Did this even happen?

long pig Restricted


When Juggernaut landed from the almighty backhand I think Beast mentioned that his heart was failing or something like that but after seeing him stripped to a skeleton and continue being Juggernaut-ful, I'm pretty sure he doesn't even need internal organs to survive. Why would his organs fail and why would it affect him?

Never even thought about that. There's one of the over 100 things that were flat out incorrect about the onslaught saga.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by long pig
Did this even happen?

I think it was after Black Tom kidnapped him one time. I believe Squidboy saved him and that's how they became friends.

long pig Restricted

New Jug?

But, I remember him saying something like "So, here I am....I don't need to breath or eat..." during the thing when he was under water. And while they were on the plane with prof x.

He calls himself a big kid who doesn't need to breath or eat.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Hmm... maybe he just can't swim. In spite of having lungs I'm sure a full grown man could fit in to make him buoyant

who?-kid Senior Member

Originally posted by Blain
Look at how weak Hulk is, can't even beat a dinosaur.

That was Mindless Hulk, a very strong Hulk incarnation.

The fact he had trouble with those beasts (they were not dinosaurs), says a lot about the strength of those monsters.

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Originally posted by Eternity
Juggernaut does not have limitless strength only limitless invunrebility. In the hulk 2005 annual he was actually rated class 90 not saying this is correct just proving he does not have limitless strength but hulk does.
Juggernaut is not unstopable as seen in the onslaught saga.
Got a scan?

Ex11B Senior Member

poor hulk
poor juggernaut

both are class 100
near-instant healing factors
tougher than 2 dollar steaks

and they get no love...... fanboys of certain superheroes(ahem..batman,wolverine)think they are just big,stupid clueless bricks

King KAM Senior Member

Originally posted by Ex11B
poor hulk
poor juggernaut

both are class 100
near-instant healing factors
tougher than 2 dollar steaks

and they get no love...... fanboys of certain superheroes(ahem..batman,wolverine)think they are just big,stupid clueless bricks

bats and wolverine rule, like wolverine said, they dont have armor or a magic hammer to fall back on, who cares if they cant juggle skyscrapers??? they train harder, and perform at150% in every game.

Ex11B Senior Member

oooooooooooooooooooooo...aint that the truth

King KAM Senior Member

Originally posted by Ex11B
oooooooooooooooooooooo...aint that the truth
yep

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Current Juggernaut is still class 100 it seems according to the 2004 handbook.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Juggisbio.jpg

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Hmm... maybe he just can't swim. In spite of having lungs I'm sure a full grown man could fit in to make him buoyant
I don't think it was that he couldn't swim. I think it's the fact that he wanted to die. Right before Black Tom pushed him into the Ocean he made some comment about his childhood.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Juggydrowin.jpg

buckfutter Restricted

id go for hulk