Originally posted by Soujaboy
And tell me, how would he do that? He could easily defeat him, but he wouldn't physically ko him.
frist he rips his helment off ok then like i said before he use'es his tp powers in one of his punches kos his ass right their u can call it pis u can say he cant do that but if u say he cant do that then tell me y he cant
It's a little difficult to gauge... The point I was making was that because Onslaught PHYSICALLY stopped the unstoppable (No mask removal or stuff like that) in a weaker state, but was actually drawing even against hulk in a considerably stronger state made me question the validity of Juggernaught's capabilities.
Trion Juggernaugh on the otherhand...
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Two things... Juggs still had his helmet on when he received that continent soaring punch.And, even if it where all a huge case of PIS... it all became a staplemark of all the mainstream comics to date (Ie: it altered everything that happened afterwards)
Mentioning the helmet thing during the Onslaught Saga is pretty pointless as has been said on here. For those that remember during that same saga, Psylocke read Juggernaut's mind WHILE he was wearing his helmet. ANd I won't even start on the many other plotholes of that saga, cause I'd be here all night.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
It's a little difficult to gauge... The point I was making was that because Onslaught PHYSICALLY stopped the unstoppable (No mask removal or stuff like that) in a weaker state, but was actually drawing even against hulk in a considerably stronger state made me question the validity of Juggernaught's capabilities.Trion Juggernaugh on the otherhand...
As I have stated before, the Onslaught saga was full of contradicting, and misleading themes. Every character is going to be written poorly in a comic or series, it is our job to point those instances out. Imp, the Onslaught saga was a poor depiction of what Juggernaut capable of.
What were also forgetting is that before the Onslaught saga, in the all New Exiles Juggernaut was depowered.
Originally posted by Tron
Mentioning the helmet thing during the Onslaught Saga is pretty pointless as has been said on here. For those that remember during that same saga, Psylocke read Juggernaut's mind WHILE he was wearing his helmet. ANd I won't even start on the many other plotholes of that saga, cause I'd be here all night.
Heh, actually, I would like to see a list, if possible Tron, Not nitpicking or nothing, I would just like to go over them in my books and see for myself.
Originally posted by Tron
Mentioning the helmet thing during the Onslaught Saga is pretty pointless as has been said on here. For those that remember during that same saga, Psylocke read Juggernaut's mind WHILE he was wearing his helmet. ANd I won't even start on the many other plotholes of that saga, cause I'd be here all night.
Exactly
helmet hijinks
Originally posted by Tron
Mentioning the helmet thing during the Onslaught Saga is pretty pointless as has been said on here. For those that remember during that same saga, Psylocke read Juggernaut's mind WHILE he was wearing his helmet. ANd I won't even start on the many other plotholes of that saga, cause I'd be here all night.
I've noticed in my time that every so often a writter just "forgets" the helmet. Psylocke is and example, bedlam in the exemplars (possibly because she gets her powers from a similar place so she knows how to bypass), onslaught and i think i remember one more but cant put my finger on it.
Originally posted by Accel
Well, there's no such thing as Hulk at full strength; his strength continually increases. But you are right that he would never hurt Juggs, which is why they stalemate.When enraged, Hulk doesn't need nourishment. His body would adapt to any feelings of hunger during the fight, so he would never have to worry about starving.
Originally posted by outarddwarf
No an enraged hulk does still need to eat. The "mindless" hulk (the one beyonder said was an infinite power) who is angry all the time basically was being pissed off by the collective, had gone through the cross roads to fight oooddles of times which he doesn't fight happy thats for damn sure still sat down to starve to death. He does need food. And i don't think a rock every now and again is gonna keep his large behemoth body running.
As I've said, his body is capable of adapting to needs such as this. It adapted to allow him to breathe under water (he's held his breathe under water countless times before, showing he had no idea he could gain the ability to breathe under water) and it's allowed him to survive in space without an air mask.
While fighting Juggernaut, Hulk would not feel the need to eat because, while he's fighting, he is fueled by adrenaline and ambition so food would mean nothing to him. If he DID actually feel hungry, his body would adapt somehow.
yes his body would addapt, to give him a longer span of time before needing to eat or die. His body wouldn't be able to evolve beyond the need for sustinence like it couldn't evolve beyond the need for oxygen, which is why it did the next best thing and gave him gills. he would still starve to death.
It allowed him to evolve beyond oxygen when he was in space.
And as I've said already, when he's fighting someone, his body becomes focused on winning; he becomes completely fueled by adrenaline and his ambition to win, which negates any need for for food. This is what gives him unlimited stamina, as well as unlimited strength.
he didn't neccisarrily evolve beyond the need for oxygen in space. Many things could have caused his stay in space. He could have evolved and made himself into a hulk oxygen tank by creating a pocket in his body that stored extra oxygen before leaving the ship which would be fed into his system to keep him from dying. His lungs could have evolved to become more efficient allowing him to get more oxygen power from less oxygen than usual, which also would allow him to hold his breath for the time needed. It could have been many things that allow that.
Originally posted by Accel
It allowed him to evolve beyond oxygen when he was in space.And as I've said already, when he's fighting someone, his body becomes focused on winning; he becomes completely fueled by adrenaline and his ambition to win, which negates any need for for food. This is what gives him unlimited stamina, as well as unlimited strength.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Hulk does not have Limitless strenghth the hulk killer humanoid has proved it and he can't win this fight cause he can't KO juggernaut
I've already said he can't KO Juggernaut, and if we're talking about the Savage Hulk (not the current version that's been healing from the same burnig injry for two whole issues) they will stalemate 'til the end of time.