Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by KillAll486 pages

wow hulk is now a mutant????

side note/question: anybody seen x3 yet??? juggernaut is supposed to be somewhat badass...

Originally posted by He-guy88
ur a qite a comic tonight

I can't engage into this debate on any serious level so I try to find those few things that pique my sense of humor and play off them.

By the way. Hulk is a mutant. Didn't you guys know? He has the innate ability to bench press his own weight in feathers. It's a unheard of ability. He can even use it when he's Bruce Banner. It's true. He can also eat his own weight in Twinkies. These are powers we don't hear about often and most people don't even know about because they are stupid. Just like the idea of Hulk being a mutant.

Originally posted by Accel
All of Hulk's fights with Namor in the past have been short, especially the ones underwater. Namor managed to pull off some underwater trick to cause Hulk to run completely out of air and or he just simply knocked him out of the water.
However, his fight did last longer in space with the robot than it did with Namor in the water. He didn't yell "Hulk Smash!" but he was pissed and yelling for Fury.
Your theory makes sense and could be true, but at the moment it's all just speculation. Hulk's gamma-irradiated body makes it just about impossible to kill him. He's taken hits from a galaxy-destroying blast (that he redirected with a thunderclap) and he supposedly has come back from being to reduced subatomic particles (this is something I have seen Cosmic Cube say and he knows his Hulk better than anyone) so I seriously doubt suffocation or hunger is going stop him. If he is completely devoid of either oxygen or nutrition, his body will adapt and compensate for those shortcomings. If necessary, Hulk could eliminate any basic need and be completely fueled by adrenaline and anger.
See his body adapting to space for his need is slightly confusing because i remember a few times he has been in space and had to hold his breath. The only thing saving him was his uber large lung capacity. so why didn't he evolve then?
The only time he yelled for fury was when he was back on the ship.
If his body is completly devoid of oxygen or nutrition how do you suppose that he will continue producing adrenaline? it needs an intake of certain substances into the body in order to create adrenaline for the body to use. How would he evolve beyond that? he would have to start eating away at his own muscle tissue(like we do when we starve) and without somthing proteins and sugers ect. to be used to make the new cells his body would be slowly eating himself to death.

THE MIGHTY THOR

its doubtful hulk would be eatin himself to death since the nanites in his body regenerate so quickly

an since were makin fun of powers....hi im jugggernaut i cant be stopped im a big walkin lineman harrrgh

thats right i have a gay malfunctionin power cause ive been stopped like 5 times everybody

my ulimited durability is the only reason i even stand a chance against anyone one except onslaught when he made me his .....

thats right you guessed it his butt-buddy YAY 💃

The Mighty Thor!!!!!

Originally posted by roughrider
What part of INFINITE DURABILITY and INFINITE STAMINA do the Hulk fans not understand?crazy

They think he has that too - but he doesn't. His own respect thread even shows it.

Juggernaut doesn't get bored with the fight, there's no reason he doesn't win. We're closing in on 300 pages here...


I assume you’re talking about this scan right here…
http://img29.exs.cx/img29/7633/Stamina2.jpg
Now, for one thing, notice that the dialogue (using big words like “sustenance”) implies that this is Banner or Professor Hulk (whichever has Banner’s mind in control). He says that he is starving; but you notice he’s not angry about anything, nor is he fighting any one. He also comments that nothing, not even hunger, could slow the Hulk down. He even states the same thing I’ve been saying for the past 20 or so pages- that an enraged Hulk has no limits to how far he can go. Anger and adrenaline keeps him going, and a fight with Juggernaut would be just the thing to keep him angry and cause him to keep fighting.

You could also be talking about this scan…
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/9913/Stamina4.jpg
Here, it states that Hulk is tired and hungry after just some weeks. But you have to take into consideration that, again, Hulk is not angry or fighting anyone, and most importantly, he has a symbiote on his back sapping his strength.

What I probably should have said before is that Hulk has POTENTIAL for unlimited stamina and durability, and his fight with Juggernaut would be enough to unleash that potential. It all comes from the source of his ever-increasing strength.

Originally posted by outarddwarf
See his body adapting to space for his need is slightly confusing because i remember a few times he has been in space and had to hold his breath. The only thing saving him was his uber large lung capacity. so why didn't he evolve then?
The only time he yelled for fury was when he was back on the ship.
If his body is completly devoid of oxygen or nutrition how do you suppose that he will continue producing adrenaline? it needs an intake of certain substances into the body in order to create adrenaline for the body to use. How would he evolve beyond that? he would have to start eating away at his own muscle tissue(like we do when we starve) and without somthing proteins and sugers ect. to be used to make the new cells his body would be slowly eating himself to death.

Yes, and he has also had to hold his breathe several times under water before he could adapt to that as well. This leads me to believe that his ability to adapt is a slow process that must take place after he has experienced a predicament a certain amount of times. Since he has gone for long periods without food before, I see no reason why he couldn’t evolve beyond it during his fight with Juggernaut.

What you stated about his body resorting to eating itself may be the solution to his predicament. His body may adapt by eating itself, causing him to regenerate what he lost, and repeating that cycle over and over again. Hulk’s body doesn’t operate like a normal person’s; he doesn’t need nutrients to help him regenerate. His gamma-irradiated cells just simply work to grow back almost instantly every time they lose mass. This cold provide an endless supply of sustenance to Hulk's system.

Correct.

hulkster still wins

It's always about POTENTIAL for the Hulk, isn't it? That's what the fans cling to. He COULD do this, he COULD do that - while Juggernaut's stats have constantly been PROVEN in action.

Time to sing some more:

Juggernaut versus Hulk
Can be such a lot of bunk
I'm right , so I'm a King
You're wrong, you're a Skunk!

We argue in the morning,
We argue duirng lunch
We argue in the afternoon
When we have a new hunch!

Will the fight ever end?
What will ever come to pass?
Who cares, I just enjoy
Getting medievel on your ass! 😄

Hulk can fight, Hulk can smash,
He can go for hours and hours,
But watch when Juggs runs him over
While Hulk stares at pretty flowers! 😛

( Ba-dum-a do-dodum-yeah! 😗 )

Hulk also proved enough iff you ask me lifting a mountain other hero's couldn't lift.
Hulk prove more in comics than juggy did iff you ask me.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Hulk also proved enough iff you ask me lifting a mountain other hero's couldn't lift.
Hulk prove more in comics than juggy did iff you ask me.

Ah, the Secret Wars tale again...
He didn't lift it, he was keeping it from falling on him and others, with Iron man's help if you look, and it lasted less than a minute,and he said he had leverage.

Juggernaut taken hits and blasts that would have killed the Hulk - he shrugged off Thor's Godblast, just for one example.

since people like poems do one on juggs inability to ever beat hulk unless he blindsides him or on how hulks stopped him befo 💃

uh you try bracin 200 pounds bet you couldnt an hulks taken thors godblast an shoved it off also as maestro

Originally posted by roughrider
Ah, the Secret Wars tale again...
He didn't lift it, he was keeping it from falling on him and others, with Iron man's help if you look, and it lasted less than a minute,and he said he had leverage.

Juggernaut taken hits and blasts that would have killed the Hulk - he shrugged off Thor's Godblast, just for one example.

It was about 15 minutes. Besides, it wasn't even the full Savage Hulk.

Originally posted by Accel
What you stated about his body resorting to eating itself may be the solution to his predicament. His body may adapt by eating itself, causing him to regenerate what he lost, and repeating that cycle over and over again. Hulk’s body doesn’t operate like a normal person’s; he doesn’t need nutrients to help him regenerate. His gamma-irradiated cells just simply work to grow back almost instantly every time they lose mass. This cold provide an endless supply of sustenance to Hulk's system.
Yes the gamma fuels the reaction of advanced cell growth but the process requires the protiens and sugers for reactants to actually become the cell. He cant just call upon matter that doesn't exist. If he is eating himself for nutrients he would instantly waste them healing himself due to his advanced healing factor taking them to reproduce the peice of hulk that just was broken down. He cannot use this as an out for nutritional purposes because one his healing factor wont allow it and two if he cut off his healing factor to use it he would be weakening himself constantly until he dies. Even if hulks body doesn't follow all the rules this is one no one can defy. "Energy cannot be created or destroyed only changed from one form to another" so he cannot evolve beyond eating it isn't possible.