Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Juggernaut is not a cosmic being who increase his abilities at will, Classic Juggernaut strength is up their with Immortal Hercules, Invulnerability greater then any other being on earth.

Juggernaut has only defeated the Professor Hulk never the Savage Hulk, Savage Hulk and Juugernaut are equal in stength and durability, until the hulk gets uber piss off and still then Juggernaut can take puinshment better than anybody else.

It would come down to a stalemate in the end, only why Hulk will f**k up juggernaut if Betty life was in danger or hurt and then you will see Savage Hulk cut lose until then it's a stalemate.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Truth hurts doesn't it?

The funny thing is That I've given scans, and have Marvel proof that Cain can increase his strength. You just make claims without proof, and you call me a fanboy?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=396511&highlight=Is+8th+day+Juggernaut+stronger+than+Classic+Juggernaut%3F

thats a lot of fanboys, odd

Here's some Juggernaut feats

🤨 Professor hulkhttp://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Hulkernaut1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Hulkernaut2.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Bitchslap.jpg

I bet Hulk woulda had to heal fo this
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/JuggernautCyclops.jpg

Here's a move that could put Hulk down
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/JuggernautShockwave.jpg

^That would not put the hulk down, my god you are a fan boy. Everytime the Savage Hulk and Juggfernaut fought it always a stalemate, Juggernaut can get knock out with enough force depending how piss the hulk can get, but in the end it's astalemate.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Truth hurts doesn't it?

The funny thing is That I've given scans, and have Marvel proof that Cain can increase his strength. You just make claims without proof, and you call me a fanboy?

You haven't given anything of note. Let's see:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=396511&highlight=Is+8th+day+Juggernaut+stronger+than+Classic+Juggernaut%3F

thats a lot of fanboys, odd

Lol. That whole thread works against you. It's talking about 8th Day Juggernaut being weaker or stronger than classic. I don't see any scans and you get a lot of flack from other posters. I was particularly amused by this:

"I am Dalak from CBR it appears that Souja has not been completely honest here as well. This is not the first run in that he's had with this subject in CBR, and his first time he was much less polite. HIs first choice of characters to back was Ultimate Colossus who he was supporting despite knowing feats of the Real Colossus that were contradictary to the arguments he was using. He was called on several such interestes and then he jumped to Juggernaut.

With Juggernaut he wasn't honest either: misrepresenting feats, using theory as proof without denoting it as such, using ABC logic that on it's own can fail (A beats B and B beats C so A beats C) and truly insulting others. (IN this thread where I actually showed 13 points where he was misrepresenting and/or lying: h**p://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=111096&page=1&pp=15) This was before a long hiatus and then he came back recently here without changing most of his debates and since it's against the rules of debate posted there and insulting others again (He's the first one to go after Raoulduke in the thread he posted here) he got banned and now he's trying to get pity and help from you when he can't make us belive him and agree with him totally.

So I'm asking you to please look at his history before blindly beliving him and condemning those on another board.

Thank you for your consideration . "

Someone, apparantly, still hasn't learned his lesson.

Here's some Juggernaut feats

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Hulkernaut1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Hulkernaut2.jpg

Haha, that was Prof. Hulk. And as you, the undeniable Hulk expert, must know, he was and is significantly weaker and less durable than Savage or Mindless. This Hulk could actually get injured badly.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Bitchslap.jpg

Hahaha. The Hulk has beaten Thor within an inch of his life. Besides that, Juggernaut shouldn't be able to swat Thor aside like that. It reeks of PIS.

I bet Hulk woulda had to heal fo this
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/JuggernautCyclops.jpg

Here's a move that could put Hulk down
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/JuggernautShockwave.jpg

You are very good at fannish speculation, I'll give you that.

(I hope you realize that this doesn't prove a thing)

i dont know if that would take him out,because hulk can do that to. im all for juggs winning though.

"Their is no major difference in strength 8th day juggernaut was simply focusing his powers more which made him seem like he was stronger."

"It was supposed to be all Juggernaut, just focusing his native power more and thus becoming more powerful, but when is Juggernaut normally focused?"

"8th Day is technically stronger simply becuase he is using his powers better thats about it but reall Classic and 8th Day are the same thing just one isn't playing around."

"No , we learnt about the focus THROUGH THE EDITOR AND WRITERS."

"8th Day is stronger not a little though, by focusing he increased he is strenght, if Juggy does that (which he only does in 8th Day) he could be string like hell..."

Originally posted by Soujaboy
"Their is no major difference in strength 8th day juggernaut was simply focusing his powers more which made him seem like he was stronger."

"It was supposed to be all Juggernaut, just focusing his native power more and thus becoming more powerful, but when is Juggernaut normally focused?"

"8th Day is technically stronger simply becuase he is using his powers better thats about it but reall Classic and 8th Day are the same thing just one isn't playing around."

"No , we learnt about the focus THROUGH THE EDITOR AND WRITERS."

"8th Day is stronger not a little though, by focusing he increased he is strenght, if Juggy does that (which he only does in 8th Day) he could be string like hell..."

Right, but how exactly is this related to classic Juggernaut, who's engaged in a battle with Hulk? Even if this is more than pure speculation, juggernauts ability to increase his strength is not even CLOSE to the levels of efficiency of the Savage Hulk.

didnt 8 day lift the god machine. which ways a good 300000 tons and more.

And another question: how does that prove that Juggernaut can kill Hulk with a single blow?

im saying 8th day is more powerful than classic juggs. until i see him lift that much, to me hes stronger.

did i say he could kill him.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Right, but how exactly is this related to classic Juggernaut, who's engaged in a battle with Hulk? Even if this is more than pure speculation, juggernauts ability to increase his strength is not even CLOSE to the levels of efficiency of the Savage Hulk.

You really dot have great reading comprehension. That means that Classic Juggernaut, like 8th day Juggernaut can increase his strength.

How do you know he cant increase his lv's of strength to the lv' of Hulk? was it stated by Marvel? is it stated in a comic? well let me answers for you; No. It's just your opionion which really isn't needed. We need facts which you obviously dont have.

"juggernauts ability to increase his strength is not even CLOSE to the levels of efficiency of the Savage Hulk."

So your saying a God who is on par with Galactus, Death, and Eternity cant grants his avater unlimited straength to lv's that Hulk can reach? 😐

Originally posted by the Darkone
Juggernaut can get knock out with enough force depending how piss the hulk can get

ya juggs never gets knocked out by physical force.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You really dot have great reading comprehension. That means that Classic Juggernaut, like 8th day Juggernaut can increase his strength.

How do you know he cant increase his lv's of strength to the lv' of Hulk? was it stated by Marvel? is it stated in a comic? well let me answers for you; No. It's just your opionion which really isn't needed. We need facts which you obviously dont have.

"juggernauts ability to increase his strength is not even CLOSE to the levels of efficiency of the Savage Hulk."

So your saying a God who is on par with Galactus, Death, and Eternity cant grants his avater unlimited straength to lv's that Hulk can reach? 😐

You haven't presented any real facts either. I at least base my opinions on common knowledge. You just try to win a debate by amping up your favorite character. And if that doesn't work you just dismiss the other.

Those quotes, while far, far from objective, even tell you that juggernaut may not be more powerful, eventhough it seems that way because he uses his strength in a better way.

And I was talking about Hulk's rage efficiency. Can Juggernaut really become stronger right away, like Hulk does? I'd like to see some proof.

This fight will not come down to strength. It will come down to who has the better chin.

Juggernaut wins.

where is it stated that juggs can increase his strength in any marvel database....it hasnt been

But even if Juggernaut is more durable than an enraged Hulk(which cannot be proven at the moment), how does that prove that Jugy has enough strength to overcome it?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
You haven't presented any real facts either. I at least base my opinions on common knowledge. You just try to win a debate by amping up your favorite character. And if that doesn't work you just dismiss the other.

Those quotes, while far, far from objective, even tell you that juggernaut may not be more powerful, eventhough it seems that way because he uses his strength in a better way.

And I was talking about Hulk's rage efficiency. Can Juggernaut really become stronger right away, like Hulk does? I'd like to see some proof.

What haven't I given facts on? everything I've stated has had scans along with it, wether the facts are 10 pages back or not.(yes I already posted the 8th day scans)

It seems to me that since you have no facts or scans or proof, that your just going to try to attack me. That's ok though, because I have my proof and scans, so get at me.

Here go's your proof
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor0.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor6.jpg

Is that what you wanted?

Now show mw proof that Hulk's durability increases, he has unlimited stamina, he cant be ko'd when he's enraged, and that he cant be killed when he's enraged.

hulk still wont beat him, juggs has tooken some mean hits in the past and shrugged them off,im not sure about him taking an odin hit that would shatter a celestial dome.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
But even if Juggernaut is more durable than an enraged Hulk(which cannot be proven at the moment), how does that prove that Jugy has enough strength to overcome it?

Are you seriously saying that an enraged Hulk is as durable as Cain? proof please.

Here go's my proof

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/mystic1.jpg