Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Originally posted by partiallyinsane
Question: How do we know that Cytorrak has infinite power. An extreme amount of power, sure, but infinite?

Also Juggernaut is supposed to be invincible, but perhaps that is only, because no force has been great enough to destroy him. If that is the case than Hulk could become sufficiently enraged to take him down. Even in comics nothing is completely impenetrable...even Juggy's force-field.

Juggernaut was beaten by Onslaught...was he depowered slightly at the time, because if he was not than I'd say Hulk definitely has more of a chance than we're giving him here.

Juggernaut could defeat a calm Hulk...but the hulk is rarely calm. Sure it could happen...and has before...but it is unlikely.

Originally posted by Dalak
I'm still waiting for your reasoning in thinking that picking up a static weight is better than bracing a falling one.

Originally posted by Dalak
Oh I made the point about Hulk punching Juggs into another dimension, but I was told it wasn't in Hulk's Powerset because he had to get angry to do it. The only Juggernaut shown to break through dimensional fabrics was Trion Juggernaut with is an Obvious power up that can't be ignored like teh 8th Day powerup.

Also I brought up that if Juggs were thrown and hit a planet/sun/black hole before he caught himself he wouldn't be able to make it back to Earth either. He'd have to walk back the exact route he flew through space, and if that was altered by passing(Gravity)/landing on some Celestial Bodies he'll never make it back. Plus there are random Wormoles in space that could 'port him around and keep him lost as well.

It wasn't that far back whenever you told me to go back and search over 360 pages for a reference to a Box. I even referenced it after that if I remember right.

Hulk doesn't have the same ability though so he would more than likely float.

Originally posted by Dalak
I'm still waiting for your reasoning in thinking that picking up a static weight is better than bracing a falling one.

Don't keep waiting. It's more impressive supporting a falling weight than picking up a static one.

THOUGH, in bigbran's defense, it is FAR MORE DIFFICULT to get the initial grip and lift on a static mountain than a falling one. Know what I mean? So it really just depends on how you look at it.

Wow Accel in those same scans it says hes getting TIRED. Was it normal hulk in a calm state that took those hits? I doubt it. Juggernaut is bloodlusted in this fight. He has never gone all out and will just pound hulk into the dust. He will be so dazed he wont even be able to get angry. Wow just admit hulk loses at least 1/10 AT LEAST and Juggernaut loses 0/10 stalemates the rest. Vote Juggernaut

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Becoz teh JugGernaAitis unStopaBle!!1!!1!!1!

😉

He was not in a calm state, at least not likely. Banner-Hulk is very much human-like in mind, that means he must have been scared to death in that scene. It's impossible to be calm when you're about to be buried by a 150 billion ton mountain.

Originally posted by Accel
My guess is that it never occurred to any one to attack him from the side.

Huh. Looked more like directly behind to me. 😕

Thank you newjak, BFR is only an option for Juggernaut, Hulk cannot come back and he can so now theres another win for Juggernaut. 2/10 8/10 stalemate.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
He was not in a calm state, at least not likely. Banner-Hulk is very much human-like in mind, that means he must have been scared to death in that scene. It's impossible to be calm when you're about to be buried by a 150 billion ton mountain.

Exactly he was surviving those things because he had time to get angry. Juggernaut would not allow him to even get angry. He will just get pounded into the dirt. JUST GIVE UP YOU LOSE.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Dalak..........Does it really matter in this fight.

Think aboiut it. 😉

If I'm being called out as a fanboy for it, then yeah 😉

Originally posted by bigbran
hmm, he caught it on his back, and plus he was in a calm state, so in a way, your saying in a calm state he can pick up a 150 billion ton mountain?!?!?!?
hmmm, sounds stupid to me, how about you?

I simply stated that catching a falling wieght is more impressive than lifting one. It's almost as good a Durability Feat as it is a Strength feat.

"Calm Hulk takes HUUGE Mountain Impact to Back and holds up a good chunk of it. Story at 11!"

Ignoring the fact that Mass x Speed = Force is much stupider IMO.

Originally posted by bigbran
well alot of hulkomaniacs would like to say different, but in this case i guess hes not calm, but in another thread he will be calm, you see how it works.

Yeah, that's how it works with opinions. It's not as if I haven't seen conflicting interpretations about Thanos or anything.

We have proven Juggernaut has the strength to do this and we have proven that Hulk doesnt have the initial durability to withstand it. You hulk fans defend this by saying, he gets stronger and has taken hits from stronger people. Those again were while he was angry, fight starts hes not angry and gets pounded before he can even build up anger, he can and has been KOed before by weaker people, Sampson others who have been stated you can check yourself.

Wow...does the onslaught thing mean nothing?

consider they are both fighting with bloodlust on non will win, all the proof in here doens't mean a lot, since nobody every seen both of them go head to head with both of them full of rage, full of strenght, so before marvel ever show the limit of one of these two guy's it's a stalemate.

All speculation what would happen.

Originally posted by Dalak
If I'm being called out as a fanboy for it, then yeah 😉

I simply stated that catching a falling wieght is more impressive than lifting one. It's almost as good a Durability Feat as it is a Strength feat.

"Calm Hulk takes HUUGE Mountain Impact to Back and holds up a good chunk of it. Story at 11!"

Ignoring the fact that Mass x Speed = Force is much stupider IMO.

Originally posted by TheDecider
Wow Accel in those same scans it says hes getting TIRED. Was it normal hulk in a calm state that took those hits? I doubt it. Juggernaut is bloodlusted in this fight. He has never gone all out and will just pound hulk into the dust. He will be so dazed he wont even be able to get angry. Wow just admit hulk loses at least 1/10 AT LEAST and Juggernaut loses 0/10 stalemates the rest. Vote Juggernaut

Originally posted by TheDecider
[BJuggernaut is bloodlusted in this fight. He has never gone all out and will just pound hulk into the dust. He will be so dazed he wont even be able to get angry. [/B]

Originally posted by TheDecider
Wow just admit hulk loses at least 1/10 AT LEAST and Juggernaut loses 0/10 stalemates the rest. Vote Juggernaut

I already admitted that it's possible for Juggernaut to win, but chances are much more likely that this will be a stalemate."

Originally posted by bigbran
your also ignoring that kung fu hustle has the bast fighting scenes.

😆 😆 😆 😆

Ok Juggernaut is winning in the polls im done debating we win. Bye